Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse

I have the latest software - Intellipoint 6.2 and the same mouse and mine
charges OK. You have a dead battery on your hands....replace it.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
"mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
>
> Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light pulses 8
> times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
> mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use. Even
> when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started early in
> August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse driver
> software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was run
> and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible. Thatt
> is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
>
> Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver for
> the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
> continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is first
> placed on the charge pad.
>
> The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a half
> hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
> occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
> about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the charger
> pad 60 times.
>
> Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
> greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
> correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date of
> manufature, 2007).
>
> Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007

this seems(having a dead battery) more plausible than having a driver tell
the mouse it is at the charging station and only charging for a min or two.
that's what i was trying to understand what you were saying.

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"Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have the latest software - Intellipoint 6.2 and the same mouse and mine
>charges OK. You have a dead battery on your hands....replace it.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> "mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0CFED76C-E642-4CD9-BEA1-32803EB3827B@microsoft.com...

>> Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
>>
>> Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light pulses 8
>> times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
>> mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use.
>> Even
>> when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started early
>> in
>> August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse driver
>> software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was run
>> and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible. Thatt
>> is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
>>
>> Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver for
>> the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
>> continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is
>> first
>> placed on the charge pad.
>>
>> The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a half
>> hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
>> occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
>> about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the charger
>> pad 60 times.
>>
>> Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
>> greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
>> correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date of
>> manufature, 2007).
>>
>> Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007

>

The rechargeable battery is dead ... buy a new one... or ask for a
replacement... there is no software problem... Intellipoint only warns you to
recharge it has nothing to do with the recharging itself.

"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote:

> this seems(having a dead battery) more plausible than having a driver tell
> the mouse it is at the charging station and only charging for a min or two.
> that's what i was trying to understand what you were saying.
>
> --
> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
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>
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> Faults -Everyone
> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%2396zxgMEIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >I have the latest software - Intellipoint 6.2 and the same mouse and mine
> >charges OK. You have a dead battery on your hands....replace it.
> >
> > --
> > Peter
> > Toronto, Canada
> > "mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:0CFED76C-E642-4CD9-BEA1-32803EB3827B@microsoft.com...

> >> Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
> >>
> >> Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light pulses 8
> >> times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
> >> mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use.
> >> Even
> >> when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started early
> >> in
> >> August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse driver
> >> software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was run
> >> and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible. Thatt
> >> is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
> >>
> >> Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver for
> >> the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
> >> continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is
> >> first
> >> placed on the charge pad.
> >>
> >> The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a half
> >> hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
> >> occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
> >> about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the charger
> >> pad 60 times.
> >>
> >> Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
> >> greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
> >> correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date of
> >> manufature, 2007).
> >>
> >> Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007

> >

>

i hope mark is reading this, my guess is the battery given to him might be
defectuous if it's brand new or he had it for a long time, and didn't let
his battery die before charging it. this is the worst thing to do to a
rechargable battery charge it before it goes dead, what happens is that the
battery remembers at what point it was charged and take the energy left and
says to it self when i get to this point i need to get charged, so what
happen is next time you use your battery when it gets to that point it'll
send a dead battery signal when you really had 15 min left of use for
example. and over time the battery doesn't work properly anymore and stops
working. now this doesn't happen after the first time you charged your
battery earlier but with time. the trick is once a month let the battery die
completly until the device stops running then charge the battery fully, even
when the signal says battery full, it is only 80% full, let on charger at
least 2 hours for the remaining 20%.

ps this is research information, not something i made up. and applies to all
rechargable batteries

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"samoila_mircea" <samoilamircea@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> The rechargeable battery is dead ... buy a new one... or ask for a
> replacement... there is no software problem... Intellipoint only warns you
> to
> recharge it has nothing to do with the recharging itself.
>
> "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote:
>

>> this seems(having a dead battery) more plausible than having a driver
>> tell
>> the mouse it is at the charging station and only charging for a min or
>> two.
>> that's what i was trying to understand what you were saying.
>>
>> --
>> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
>> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
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>>
>> Best Comments From Users:
>> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
>>
>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
>> completely
>> foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web
>>
>> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
>> Faults -Everyone
>> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2396zxgMEIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> >I have the latest software - Intellipoint 6.2 and the same mouse and
>> >mine
>> >charges OK. You have a dead battery on your hands....replace it.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Peter
>> > Toronto, Canada
>> > "mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:0CFED76C-E642-4CD9-BEA1-32803EB3827B@microsoft.com...
>> >> Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
>> >>
>> >> Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light
>> >> pulses 8
>> >> times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
>> >> mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use.
>> >> Even
>> >> when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started
>> >> early
>> >> in
>> >> August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse
>> >> driver
>> >> software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was
>> >> run
>> >> and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible.
>> >> Thatt
>> >> is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
>> >>
>> >> Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver
>> >> for
>> >> the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
>> >> continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is
>> >> first
>> >> placed on the charge pad.
>> >>
>> >> The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a
>> >> half
>> >> hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
>> >> occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
>> >> about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the
>> >> charger
>> >> pad 60 times.
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
>> >> greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
>> >> correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date
>> >> of
>> >> manufature, 2007).
>> >>
>> >> Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007
>> >

>>

Honestly, whoever you are, drivers don't charge mice. As it happens I have
spent over $20 purchasing batteries, just in case there was a problem with
the battery manufacture. I can absolutely affirm that the faulty manufacture
came from Microsoft: either the mouse driver is faulty, or by some bizarre
fluke the new mouse hardware broke at the very instantr that a Microsoft
driver updated Vista.

Mark

"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote:

> forgive me, but if i understand correctly you need the driver to charge the
> mouse, couldn't it be that the battery is not holding it's charge, or a
> problem with the battery, or is it really the driver not telling the mouse
> to charge?
>
> --
> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
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>
> Best Comments From Users:
> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
>
> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
> foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web
>
> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
> Faults -Everyone
> "mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0CFED76C-E642-4CD9-BEA1-32803EB3827B@microsoft.com...

> > Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
> >
> > Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light pulses 8
> > times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
> > mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use. Even
> > when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started early in
> > August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse driver
> > software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was run
> > and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible. Thatt
> > is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
> >
> > Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver for
> > the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
> > continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is first
> > placed on the charge pad.
> >
> > The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a half
> > hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
> > occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
> > about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the charger
> > pad 60 times.
> >
> > Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
> > greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
> > correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date of
> > manufature, 2007).
> >
> > Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007

>

Peter,
You must not have read everything I posted.
Fortunately, I comprehend how to change a battery better than you comprehend
plain text.
Mark

"Peter" wrote:

> I have the latest software - Intellipoint 6.2 and the same mouse and mine
> charges OK. You have a dead battery on your hands....replace it.
>
> --
> Peter
> Toronto, Canada
> "mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0CFED76C-E642-4CD9-BEA1-32803EB3827B@microsoft.com...

> > Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
> >
> > Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light pulses 8
> > times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
> > mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use. Even
> > when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started early in
> > August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse driver
> > software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was run
> > and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible. Thatt
> > is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
> >
> > Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver for
> > the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
> > continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is first
> > placed on the charge pad.
> >
> > The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a half
> > hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
> > occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
> > about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the charger
> > pad 60 times.
> >
> > Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
> > greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
> > correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date of
> > manufature, 2007).
> >
> > Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007

>
>

How sweet of you to take so much time to explain how a baqttery dies.
Actually, I am lazy and I ALWAYS! let my batteries die before I charge them.

"Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote:

> i hope mark is reading this, my guess is the battery given to him might be
> defectuous if it's brand new or he had it for a long time, and didn't let
> his battery die before charging it. this is the worst thing to do to a
> rechargable battery charge it before it goes dead, what happens is that the
> battery remembers at what point it was charged and take the energy left and
> says to it self when i get to this point i need to get charged, so what
> happen is next time you use your battery when it gets to that point it'll
> send a dead battery signal when you really had 15 min left of use for
> example. and over time the battery doesn't work properly anymore and stops
> working. now this doesn't happen after the first time you charged your
> battery earlier but with time. the trick is once a month let the battery die
> completly until the device stops running then charge the battery fully, even
> when the signal says battery full, it is only 80% full, let on charger at
> least 2 hours for the remaining 20%.
>
> ps this is research information, not something i made up. and applies to all
> rechargable batteries
>
> --
> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
>
> Best Comments From Users:
> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
>
> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
> foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web
>
> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
> Faults -Everyone
> "samoila_mircea" <samoilamircea@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F2C1A1CE-4B9D-431F-A30D-E7225C476C83@microsoft.com...

> > The rechargeable battery is dead ... buy a new one... or ask for a
> > replacement... there is no software problem... Intellipoint only warns you
> > to
> > recharge it has nothing to do with the recharging itself.
> >
> > "Computer & Sound System Tech" wrote:
> >

> >> this seems(having a dead battery) more plausible than having a driver
> >> tell
> >> the mouse it is at the charging station and only charging for a min or
> >> two.
> >> that's what i was trying to understand what you were saying.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
> >> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
> >> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
> >>
> >> Best Comments From Users:
> >> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
> >>
> >> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
> >> completely
> >> foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web
> >>
> >> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
> >> Faults -Everyone
> >> "Peter" <nobody@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%2396zxgMEIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >I have the latest software - Intellipoint 6.2 and the same mouse and
> >> >mine
> >> >charges OK. You have a dead battery on your hands....replace it.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Peter
> >> > Toronto, Canada
> >> > "mark" <mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:0CFED76C-E642-4CD9-BEA1-32803EB3827B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light
> >> >> pulses 8
> >> >> times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
> >> >> mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use.
> >> >> Even
> >> >> when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started
> >> >> early
> >> >> in
> >> >> August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse
> >> >> driver
> >> >> software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was
> >> >> run
> >> >> and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible.
> >> >> Thatt
> >> >> is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
> >> >>
> >> >> Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver
> >> >> for
> >> >> the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
> >> >> continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is
> >> >> first
> >> >> placed on the charge pad.
> >> >>
> >> >> The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a
> >> >> half
> >> >> hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
> >> >> occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
> >> >> about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the
> >> >> charger
> >> >> pad 60 times.
> >> >>
> >> >> Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
> >> >> greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
> >> >> correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date
> >> >> of
> >> >> manufature, 2007).
> >> >>
> >> >> Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007
> >> >
> >>

>

All three of you read this carefully.
The original battery is ancient history and three new NIMH batteries have
dome their best to make the mouse work again.
Something in a Vista update slipped malicious code into the mouse through
it's bluetooth port. This is 'extremely' a well understood exploit - 15
minute blurb on it on the news last week. The mouse is messed up pretty bad.
No more battery talk.
Does any tech have any idea how to do a really effective (and safe)
low-level hardware reset of Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 8000?

Sensible answers.
Mark

Peter wrote: [boyscout battery basics]
Computer & So... wrote: [repeat of Peter's good will]
samoila_mirc... wrote: [repeat of peter's good will]

"mark" wrote:

> Subject: Problem Laser 8000 Bluetooth Mouse
>
> Message: When the mouse is put on the charge pad its green light pulses 8
> times slowly. Then a red light flashes continuously and rapidly. The
> mouse's NIMH battery does not charge except for a few minutes of use. Even
> when the mouse is left on the pad overnight. This problem started early in
> August when a Vista update included a prompt to update the mouse driver
> software with a download from Microsoft. The Microsoft download was run
> and stopped itself with a note that the driver was not compatible. Thatt
> is when the mouse stopped charging properly.
>
> Then late August another Vista prompt to download the updated driver for
> the mouse, and this time the driver installed. However, the mouse
> continues to fail to charge except for less than a minute when it is first
> placed on the charge pad.
>
> The mouse battery charge anly lasts a very short while. If I take a half
> hour to reseat the mouse on the pad every time the rapid red blinking
> occurs, I can slowly build up the charge. The slow green pulsing lasts
> about 30 seconds, so in half an hour the mouse is reseated on the charger
> pad 60 times.
>
> Microsoft can direct me to a safe driver update, please. That would be
> greatly appreciated. It would be really appropriate if Microsoft would
> correct the error in its driver update for the Laser 8000 mouse (date of
> manufature, 2007).
>
> Mark Stewart, August, September, October 2007