Program Access Alert

retroman

I have been doing some testing on this issue.

Can you tell me where the programs(s) are starting from.

Go to Start and type msconfig and click msconfig.exe in the resulting
Programs.

Click the Start Up Tab. You will see all of the programs that are configured
to start up at boot.

Locate the program that is causing the problem and let me know where it is
starting from. You may need to expand the Location Column to see the entire
path.

Post back to this thread with the results.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"retroman" <retroman@noplace.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:41:19 -0700, "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>

>
> Many thanks to you and to JaneC for responding. However, I am using that
> version,
> dated 5 Feb 2007.
>

>
> It's definitely the UAC blocker, not Defender. Both Defender and UAC are
> set to "Run
> as Administrator" for Ipoint.exe, and I am logged in as administrator.
> Looking at
> the file properties for Ipoint.exe, it appears that I have full control.
> I've tried
> reinstalling Ipoint, with no change.
>
> It's good to know that some people can load Ipoint on startup without a
> problem. The
> curious thing is that loading or not loading Ipoint does not seem to
> affect the mouse
> behavior at all. All my mousing preferences load anyway. So, at this
> point I'm just
> going to disable Ipoint from attempting to load. I see no side effects
> from doing so
> and it's not worth more of anyone's time to track down the cause.
>
> Thanks again,
> Doug in NJ
> www.xpertss.com

BigMoosey

I have been doing some testing on this issue.

Can you tell me where the programs(s) are starting from.

Go to Start and type msconfig and click msconfig.exe in the resulting
Programs.

Click the Start Up Tab. You will see all of the programs that are configured
to start up at boot.

Locate the program that is causing the problem and let me know where it is
starting from. You may need to expand the Location Column to see the entire
path.

Post back to this thread with the results.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"BigMoosey" <BigMoosey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have downloaded the Vista compatable version of Logitech SetPoint but the
> alert is still coming up. I am not willing to have to allow this program
> to
> run everytime, as it takes about 10 seconds for the popup to come up (and
> in
> those 10 seconds I cannot open any applications).
>
> Is there no where I can allow this program to automatically run without
> permission?
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:31:08 -0700, "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote:

>Can you tell me where the programs(s) are starting from.

C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe

Ronnie, thanks for your interest. As I recall, the Intellipoint installer does not
allow the user to specify the installation folder.

Doug M. in NJ

Hi Doug

Sorry you misunderstood. I need to know where the program is being called
from when the computer is booted. It will either be starting from a registry
location or from the All Programs/Start Up folder.

Follow the steps in my message to determine this.


"Go to Start and type msconfig and click msconfig.exe in the resulting
Programs.

Click the Start Up Tab. You will see all of the programs that are configured
to start up at boot.

Locate the program that is causing the problem and let me know where it is
starting from. You may need to expand the Location Column to see the entire
path."

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"retroman" <retroman@noplace.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 14:31:08 -0700, "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org>
> wrote:
>

>
> C:\Program Files\Microsoft IntelliPoint\ipoint.exe
>
> Ronnie, thanks for your interest. As I recall, the Intellipoint installer
> does not
> allow the user to specify the installation folder.
>
> Doug M. in NJ

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:28:22 -0700, "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote:

OK, Ronnie, I misunderstood. The key is:

HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

Doug in NJ

Doug

Rats! OK, well that blew my idea out of the water.

That location in the registry is exactly where that program should be.

I have been able to solve some of these program start up issues when the
start up was located in the HKLM hive of the registry.

I'll keep working on this.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"retroman" <retroman@noplace.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:28:22 -0700, "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org>
> wrote:
>
> OK, Ronnie, I misunderstood. The key is:
>
> HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
>
> Doug in NJ

I'm interested in your solution. Ipoint.exe runs from HKLM on my computer
with no problems. I do have another program for the synaptics touch pad that
does have to be authorised at every boot that I would like to solve. It also
runs from HKLM.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote in message
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> Doug
>
> Rats! OK, well that blew my idea out of the water.
>
> That location in the registry is exactly where that program should be.
>
> I have been able to solve some of these program start up issues when the
> start up was located in the HKLM hive of the registry.
>
> I'll keep working on this.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "retroman" <retroman@noplace.com> wrote in message
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>

Hello,

If you ran as an administrative user you could use the task scheduler,
Kerry; however, I am not aware of any way to automatically start a program
with admin permission inside a standard user account.


--
- JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User

Windows Vista Support Faq
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

It is coming from
C:\PROGRA~1\Loigtech\Setpoint\setpoint.exe


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:

> BigMoosey
>
> I have been doing some testing on this issue.
>
> Can you tell me where the programs(s) are starting from.
>
> Go to Start and type msconfig and click msconfig.exe in the resulting
> Programs.
>
> Click the Start Up Tab. You will see all of the programs that are configured
> to start up at boot.
>
> Locate the program that is causing the problem and let me know where it is
> starting from. You may need to expand the Location Column to see the entire
> path.
>
> Post back to this thread with the results.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "BigMoosey" <BigMoosey@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F78FD12B-A1D4-4534-A763-24EBA6AB7A5D@microsoft.com...

>
>

Hi Kerry

In my testing, I have found that some start up programs that prompt for
elevation (like IPoint) and that have their source as HKLM/Run can be
'fixed' by changing the source to HKCU/Run. I have also seen programs work
by deleting the source from the registry and placing a shortcut for the
program in the users common start up folder.

The problem is that there is no consistency? IPoint is a good example. Why
does it place the start up source in HKCU/Run and work without elevation on
some systems and HKLM/Run and prompt for elevation on others, and place the
source at different locations, during installation? Regardless of where it
is placed, why does it prompt for elevation on some systems, and not prompt
on others when the start up source is the same?

I use a clipboard program that archives everything that is copied to the
clipboard. It runs from a shortcut in the Start Up folder. This program has
not been updated in at least 6 years, and it works perfectly with Vista. It
is installed in Program Files, all of the data and configuration files are
placed in the virtual store folder and it does not ask for elevation, at any
time.

As Jimmy said, there is no way to give the program admin privileges prior to
starting.

If none of these fixes work, I usually recommend that the user place a
shortcut to the program in a handy location and start as soon as the boot is
finished. As of now, there is no solution that I have found, it's strictly a
hit or miss proposition.

Let me know what you find on your system.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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> I'm interested in your solution. Ipoint.exe runs from HKLM on my computer
> with no problems. I do have another program for the synaptics touch pad
> that does have to be authorised at every boot that I would like to solve.
> It also runs from HKLM.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@invalid.org> wrote in message
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>