Program sharing

Posted: 08-19-2003, 05:48 AM
In XP Professional, I have set up a number of users, with
myself as administrator. I want to be able to allow my
grandchildren to play certain games but not have access to
other programs.

I've tried dragging shortcuts to "shared folders" and this
worked for one game but not for others, for some
unaccountable (to me at any rate) reason. How on earth do
I reliably do this, short of copying the whole program to
the other user's folder (ridiculously wasteful of space)?

I'd appreciate greatly any help that anyone can provide. I
suspect that this question is too basic to appear in any
of the FAQs or textbooks I've tried to find it in.

Barrie
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
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Re: Program sharing
Posted: 08-19-2003, 05:53 AM
Most applications weren't designed for this type of multi-user environment.
Such applications need to be installed in each specific user's account to
whom you wish to grant access.

First, be sure the account to which you wish to grant access is set to
administrator and not limited. Install the applications to the same folder
in which it was originally installed. This will look the same as one
install on your hard drive but create the pointers necessary for this user
to have access to the application.

Once the installation is complete, you can return the account to its limited
status if that is what you want and the user should still have access.

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"Dr Barrie Bardsley" <barrie.bardsley@hotkey.net.au> wrote in message
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> In XP Professional, I have set up a number of users, with
> myself as administrator. I want to be able to allow my
> grandchildren to play certain games but not have access to
> other programs.
>
> I've tried dragging shortcuts to "shared folders" and this
> worked for one game but not for others, for some
> unaccountable (to me at any rate) reason. How on earth do
> I reliably do this, short of copying the whole program to
> the other user's folder (ridiculously wasteful of space)?
>
> I'd appreciate greatly any help that anyone can provide. I
> suspect that this question is too basic to appear in any
> of the FAQs or textbooks I've tried to find it in.
>
> Barrie

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David Candy
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Re: Program sharing
Posted: 08-19-2003, 06:01 AM
Also type folder permissions in Help. Games like to write to places where limited users are not allowed to write.
"Dr Barrie Bardsley" <barrie.bardsley@hotkey.net.au> wrote in message news:0a8801c3660d$285457d0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> In XP Professional, I have set up a number of users, with
> myself as administrator. I want to be able to allow my
> grandchildren to play certain games but not have access to
> other programs.
>
> I've tried dragging shortcuts to "shared folders" and this
> worked for one game but not for others, for some
> unaccountable (to me at any rate) reason. How on earth do
> I reliably do this, short of copying the whole program to
> the other user's folder (ridiculously wasteful of space)?
>
> I'd appreciate greatly any help that anyone can provide. I
> suspect that this question is too basic to appear in any
> of the FAQs or textbooks I've tried to find it in.
>
> Barrie
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Dr Barrie Bardsley
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Re: Program sharing
Posted: 09-02-2003, 05:46 AM
>-----Original Message-----
>Most applications weren't designed for this type of multi-
user environment.
>Such applications need to be installed in each specific
user's account to
>whom you wish to grant access.
>
>First, be sure the account to which you wish to grant
access is set to
>administrator and not limited. Install the applications
to the same folder
>in which it was originally installed. This will look the
same as one
>install on your hard drive but create the pointers
necessary for this user
>to have access to the application.
>
>Once the installation is complete, you can return the
account to its limited
>status if that is what you want and the user should still
have access.
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Dr Barrie Bardsley" <barrie.bardsley@hotkey.net.au>
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>news:0a8801c3660d$285457d0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> In XP Professional, I have set up a number of users,
with
>> myself as administrator. I want to be able to allow my
>> grandchildren to play certain games but not have access
to
>> other programs.
>>
>> I've tried dragging shortcuts to "shared folders" and
this
>> worked for one game but not for others, for some
>> unaccountable (to me at any rate) reason. How on earth
do
>> I reliably do this, short of copying the whole program
to
>> the other user's folder (ridiculously wasteful of
space)?
>>
>> I'd appreciate greatly any help that anyone can
provide. I
>> suspect that this question is too basic to appear in any
>> of the FAQs or textbooks I've tried to find it in.
>>
>> Barrie
>
>
>.
>
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Dr Barrie Bardsley
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Re: Program sharing
Posted: 09-02-2003, 05:47 AM
Many thanks for this help. I really appreciate your taking
the trouble to reply.

Barrie
>-----Original Message-----
>Most applications weren't designed for this type of multi-
user environment.
>Such applications need to be installed in each specific
user's account to
>whom you wish to grant access.
>
>First, be sure the account to which you wish to grant
access is set to
>administrator and not limited. Install the applications
to the same folder
>in which it was originally installed. This will look the
same as one
>install on your hard drive but create the pointers
necessary for this user
>to have access to the application.
>
>Once the installation is complete, you can return the
account to its limited
>status if that is what you want and the user should still
have access.
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
>"Dr Barrie Bardsley" <barrie.bardsley@hotkey.net.au>
wrote in message
>news:0a8801c3660d$285457d0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> In XP Professional, I have set up a number of users,
with
>> myself as administrator. I want to be able to allow my
>> grandchildren to play certain games but not have access
to
>> other programs.
>>
>> I've tried dragging shortcuts to "shared folders" and
this
>> worked for one game but not for others, for some
>> unaccountable (to me at any rate) reason. How on earth
do
>> I reliably do this, short of copying the whole program
to
>> the other user's folder (ridiculously wasteful of
space)?
>>
>> I'd appreciate greatly any help that anyone can
provide. I
>> suspect that this question is too basic to appear in any
>> of the FAQs or textbooks I've tried to find it in.
>>
>> Barrie
>
>
>.
>
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program sharing
Posted: 12-21-2003, 08:49 AM
Hi,

I've assigned user accounts in my new home computer using
Windows XP. While I'd like kids to have their own private
spaces, I also need them to share some softwares such as
MSN for internet access and some photo editing programs.
My problem now is that I can only install through the
administrator account and the programs can only be used
in the adm account. Is there a way to provide access for
kids to use the programs via their own user accounts?

Please help!
Thanks
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Re: program sharing
Posted: 12-21-2003, 09:29 AM
If anyone knows of an official Microsoft web site that explains how to do
this please post it here!

This is how I do it. There are three ways:

a) Some programs have an install option but they seem to be rare. (Why MS
didn't make this a requirement to claim XP compatibility I don't know). With
some programs each user gets a copy BUT each user has to complete the
install and agree the licence terms the first time they run the application
(reasonable enough).

b) Convert their accounts to admin status temporarily. Install S/W for each
user, then convert them back to limited accounts.

or

c) Log in as admin and go Right click Start -> Explore all users. Navigate
to the admin account -> start menu -> programs folder and copy/cut the
program shortcut. Then navigate to the same place in the all users account
and hit paste. I sometimes do the same for desktop shortcuts so that all
users have the same shortcuts on their desktop.

Colin (not an MVP)



"Sherman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I've assigned user accounts in my new home computer using
> Windows XP. While I'd like kids to have their own private
> spaces, I also need them to share some softwares such as
> MSN for internet access and some photo editing programs.
> My problem now is that I can only install through the
> administrator account and the programs can only be used
> in the adm account. Is there a way to provide access for
> kids to use the programs via their own user accounts?
>
> Please help!
> Thanks

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Re: program sharing
Posted: 12-21-2003, 09:32 AM
I should add that I don't do rapid switching between user accounts - I force
a log off/log on each time. If you do rapid switching I guess some of the
methods I use may cause a problem?



"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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> If anyone knows of an official Microsoft web site that explains how to do
> this please post it here!
>
> This is how I do it. There are three ways:
>
> a) Some programs have an install option but they seem to be rare. (Why MS
> didn't make this a requirement to claim XP compatibility I don't know).
With
> some programs each user gets a copy BUT each user has to complete the
> install and agree the licence terms the first time they run the
application
> (reasonable enough).
>
> b) Convert their accounts to admin status temporarily. Install S/W for
each
> user, then convert them back to limited accounts.
>
> or
>
> c) Log in as admin and go Right click Start -> Explore all users. Navigate
> to the admin account -> start menu -> programs folder and copy/cut the
> program shortcut. Then navigate to the same place in the all users account
> and hit paste. I sometimes do the same for desktop shortcuts so that all
> users have the same shortcuts on their desktop.
>
> Colin (not an MVP)
>
>
>
> "Sherman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:05a901c3c79f$50f5cf40$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've assigned user accounts in my new home computer using
> > Windows XP. While I'd like kids to have their own private
> > spaces, I also need them to share some softwares such as
> > MSN for internet access and some photo editing programs.
> > My problem now is that I can only install through the
> > administrator account and the programs can only be used
> > in the adm account. Is there a way to provide access for
> > kids to use the programs via their own user accounts?
> >
> > Please help!
> > Thanks
>
>

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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
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Re: program sharing
Posted: 12-21-2003, 12:19 PM
Hi Sherman,

As Colin points out, there is no one pat answer for this. Some programs
require that you install them under each account, others can be installed
for everyone in one shot. This is a limitation from the installer used by
the program developer. For limited accounts, you may need to add permissions
for them on the necessary program folders. This may help as well:

Some Programs Do Not Work If You Log On from Limited Account [Q307091]
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307091

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"Sherman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I've assigned user accounts in my new home computer using
> Windows XP. While I'd like kids to have their own private
> spaces, I also need them to share some softwares such as
> MSN for internet access and some photo editing programs.
> My problem now is that I can only install through the
> administrator account and the programs can only be used
> in the adm account. Is there a way to provide access for
> kids to use the programs via their own user accounts?
>
> Please help!
> Thanks

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Bruce Chambers
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Re: program sharing
Posted: 12-21-2003, 04:15 PM
Greetings --

This is quite common if the software was designed for Win9x/Me, or
if it was intended for WinNT/2K/XP, but was improperly designed. Quite
simply, the installation routine for this application doesn't "know"
how to handle individual user profiles, or the application tries to
make changes to "off-limits" sections of the registry. Quite often,
you can make this software available to other users by _copying_ the
Start Menu folder and Desktop folder shortcuts from the user profile
from which the software was installed in the corresponding folders in
the user profile(s) in which you'd like the software to be accessible.
If the application is something that can/should be made available to
all current and future users, copying the shortcuts into the
corresponding locations of the All Users profile will do the trick.

NOTE: This may not work if the software requires access to parts
of the hard drive and/or registry that are not normally accessible to
regular users. (This won't occur if the application was properly
written.) If this does prove to be the case, however, you're left
with two options: Either grant the necessary users appropriate higher
access privileges (either as Power Users or local administrators), or
replace the application with one that was properly designed
specifically for WinNT/2K/XP.

Some Programs Do Not Work If You Log On from Limited Account
http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;q307091

Additionally, here are a couple of tips suggested, in a reply to a
different post, by MS-MVP Kent W. England:

"If your game or application works with admin accounts, but not with
limited accounts, you can fix it to allow limited users to access the
program files folder with "change" capability rather than "read" which
is the default.

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:c

where "appfolder" is the folder where the application is installed.

If you wish to undo these changes, then run

C:\>cacls "Program Files\appfolder" /e /t /p users:r

If you still have a problem with running the program or saving
settings on limited accounts, you may need to change permissions on
the registry keys. Run regedit.exe and go to HKLM\Software\vendor\app,
where "vendor\app" is the key that the software vendor used for your
specific program. Change the permissions on this key to allow Users
full control."


Bruce Chambers

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"Sherman" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I've assigned user accounts in my new home computer using
> Windows XP. While I'd like kids to have their own private
> spaces, I also need them to share some softwares such as
> MSN for internet access and some photo editing programs.
> My problem now is that I can only install through the
> administrator account and the programs can only be used
> in the adm account. Is there a way to provide access for
> kids to use the programs via their own user accounts?
>
> Please help!
> Thanks

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