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Old 09-04-2007, 12:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Point is there aren't any better than the free ones, at least not significantly.
See my previous message.

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>> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303"
>> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
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>>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
>>> for
>>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>>>
>>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
>>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
>>> anti-spyware
>>> etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or
>> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best
>> product(s) in each category. It is *not* true that because company A
>> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its
>> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc.
>>
>>
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>
> Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus programs,
> and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at what they
> do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of people that
> believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im willing to pay
> since it is for protecting my data and my school investment.
>
> thanks
>
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:23:17 -0700, "Spirit" <noone@notthere.net>
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> Point is there aren't any better than the free ones, at least not significantly.
> See my previous message.

I agree. I use the Vista firewall, the free Avast Anti-virus, and for
anti-spyware, Windows Defender, Spybot Search and Destroy, and Spyware
Blaster.


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> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> >> On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 11:42:24 -0500, "razor_303"
> >> <razor_303@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
> >>> purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews
> >>> for
> >>> the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
> >>> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus,
> >>> anti-spyware
> >>> etc.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am very much against using such suites, whether security suites, or
> >> any other kind. I believe that it's best to look for the best
> >> product(s) in each category. It is *not* true that because company A
> >> makes the best anti-virus program, you should therefore also use its
> >> firewall, anti-spyware program, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok good points made, so what are some good firewalls, anti-virus programs,
> > and anti-spyware programs that i could buy that are the best at what they
> > do, and i dont trust those free versions, i those kinds of people that
> > believe that nothing is free, everything has a price. im willing to pay
> > since it is for protecting my data and my school investment.
> >
> > thanks
> >
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Old 09-04-2007, 06:46 PM   #13 (permalink)
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> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
>
If memory and CPU usage is a concern, you should take a look at Eset's NOD32
anti-virus/anti-malware. It's well known for going easy on a computer's
resources.

You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost
are known to work well with NOD32.

Until Eset release their full security suite in v3 (currently in beta), I'd
go for one of the combinations above.

Links:
www.eset.com
www.personalfirewall.comodo.com
www.agnitum.com

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Old 09-04-2007, 07:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi, One thing to note - Vista comes w/ an outbound FW, but it isn't o
by default - it doesn't have any rules configured. To make it work
you'd have to manually configure everything yourself, which seems like
big pain

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Old 09-04-2007, 08:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.

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>I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
>purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for
>the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
>
> I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
> that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware
> etc.
>
> I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
> those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
> while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
>
> Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
> software?
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> getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
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> Thanks
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:39 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Windows Defender is not a firewall.

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Old 09-04-2007, 09:24 PM   #17 (permalink)
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On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, "PTravel"
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> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.

Sure. Windows Defender has no firewall at all.


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> >I am currently using Norton Internet Security 2007, for both my recently
> >purchased laptop and my older desktop computer. I have seen the reviews for
> >the 2008 version and I'm not very confident in getting it.
> >
> > I wanted to get some recommendations on security software that I can buy
> > that includes the whole package, like a firewall, anti-virus, anti-spyware
> > etc.
> >
> > I know to stay away from Computer Associates and PC-cillin as I've tried
> > those and pretty much wasted my money with both, so I've had Norton for a
> > while now. and Mcaffe ive heard it sucks so im not going there either
> >
> > Can I have the whole name and not abberviations so I can look up the
> > software?
> >
> > getting tired of norton, uses up too much memory...
> >
> > Thanks
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Old 09-04-2007, 09:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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> If memory and CPU usage is a concern, you should take a look at Eset's
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> NOD32 anti-virus/anti-malware. It's well known for going easy on a
> computer's resources.
>
> You should also use a proper firewall, both Comodo Pro and Agnitum Outpost
> are known to work well with NOD32.
>
> Until Eset release their full security suite in v3 (currently in beta),
> I'd go for one of the combinations above.
Keep in mind that Comodo's firewall for Vista is still in beta as well and
pretty rough around the edges at the moment.

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Old 09-04-2007, 11:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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> On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:13:15 -0700, PTravel wrote:
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>> I lilke AVG, which also has a better firewall than Windows Defender.
>
> Windows Defender is not a firewall.
You're correct. I meant Windows Firewall. AVG will also replace all the
functions provided by Defender.
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Old 09-05-2007, 03:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
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> Keep in mind that Comodo's firewall for Vista is still in beta as well and
> pretty rough around the edges at the moment.
Sorry about that, Victek is right. Comodo PF 3 should be used only for
testing at the moment. Outpost for Vista is also beta.

However, NOD32 in it's current version 2.7 works with Vista. It's the
upcoming Eset Smart Security suite who is still in beta.

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