Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?

Posted: 03-05-2009, 09:36 AM
Hi,

I've created different ghost to support the workstations of a small school,
but my ghost are too big (20GB) and I can't deployed them via the network
(LAN)!

Do you know a if there is a cd ou USB boot solution, that I could use to
deploy my ghost from External USB HDD?
I have to finalize that for tomorrow evening and I'm in panic mode!!!

Thanks a lot for your help
Chris

Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?


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Zaphod Beeblebrox
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-05-2009, 02:08 PM

"chrbar" <chrbar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I've created different ghost to support the workstations of a small
> school,
> but my ghost are too big (20GB) and I can't deployed them via the
> network
> (LAN)!
>
> Do you know a if there is a cd ou USB boot solution, that I could use
> to
> deploy my ghost from External USB HDD?
> I have to finalize that for tomorrow evening and I'm in panic mode!!!
>
> Thanks a lot for your help
> Chris
>
Have you tried using Ghost to read from an external USB HDD? It works
fine for me to read from USB thumb drives, but I've never tried a USB
HDD to see if it will work. Another possibility would be a Windows PE
boot CD. If it doesn't work "out of the box", you can add drivers. For
a how-to on building your own customized Windows PE boot CD, go to
www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/.

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Dave R.
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-05-2009, 03:23 PM

"Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in
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>
> "chrbar" <chrbar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B503FCA7-ABDD-4204-90A2-71DEA84F02B6@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've created different ghost to support the workstations of a small
>> school,
>> but my ghost are too big (20GB) and I can't deployed them via the
>> network
>> (LAN)!
>>
>> Do you know a if there is a cd ou USB boot solution, that I could use
>> to
>> deploy my ghost from External USB HDD?
>> I have to finalize that for tomorrow evening and I'm in panic mode!!!
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help
>> Chris
>>
> Have you tried using Ghost to read from an external USB HDD? It works
> fine for me to read from USB thumb drives, but I've never tried a USB
> HDD to see if it will work. Another possibility would be a Windows PE
> boot CD. If it doesn't work "out of the box", you can add drivers.
> For a how-to on building your own customized Windows PE boot CD, go to
> www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/.
>
Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at least the
ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV with other versions of Ghost,
other models of PCs and other drive enclosures. I had to boot to floppy
or CD rather then a bootable USB stick to do it though, because the Dell
seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it instead of the USB
stick when both were connected. FYI, I use Win 98's DOS for my boot
media (and no USB drivers loaded), but it would probably work with most
any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't doesn't seem to care about DOS
version, nor does it seem to need USB drivers as long as the BIOS sees
the drive.

--
Dave


Timothy Daniels
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-05-2009, 09:52 PM
"Dave R." wrote:
> Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at least the ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV with
> other versions of Ghost, other models of PCs and other drive enclosures. I had to boot to floppy or CD rather then a
> bootable USB stick to do it though, because the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it instead of the
> USB stick when both were connected. FYI, I use Win 98's DOS for my boot media (and no USB drivers loaded), but it
> would probably work with most any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't doesn't seem to care about DOS version, nor does it
> seem to need USB drivers as long as the BIOS sees the drive.
>
> --
> Dave

Are you saying by "the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot
from it instead of the USB stick when both were connected" that your Dell
PC can boot from an external USB hard drive?

*TimDaniels*


Dave R.
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-06-2009, 01:29 PM

"Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave R." wrote:
>> Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at least
>> the ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV with other versions of
>> Ghost, other models of PCs and other drive enclosures. I had to
>> boot to floppy or CD rather then a bootable USB stick to do it
>> though, because the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot
>> from it instead of the USB stick when both were connected. FYI, I
>> use Win 98's DOS for my boot media (and no USB drivers loaded), but
>> it would probably work with most any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't
>> doesn't seem to care about DOS version, nor does it seem to need
>> USB drivers as long as the BIOS sees the drive.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>
>
> Are you saying by "the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to
> boot
> from it instead of the USB stick when both were connected" that your
> Dell
> PC can boot from an external USB hard drive?
>
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. External USB hard drive,
external USB Floppy drive, and even external USB CDROM drives if the
BIOS alternate boot menu is to be believed.

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Dave


Timothy Daniels
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-06-2009, 05:38 PM
"Dave R." wrote:
>
> "Timothy Daniels" asked:
>> "Dave R." wrote:
>>> Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at least the ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV with
>>> other versions of Ghost, other models of PCs and other drive enclosures. I had to boot to floppy or CD rather then
>>> a bootable USB stick to do it though, because the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it instead of
>>> the USB stick when both were connected. FYI, I use Win 98's DOS for my boot media (and no USB drivers loaded), but
>>> it would probably work with most any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't doesn't seem to care about DOS version, nor does
>>> it seem to need USB drivers as long as the BIOS sees the drive.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>
>>
>> Are you saying by
>> "the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it
>> instead of the USB stick when both were connected"
>> that your Dell PC can boot from an external USB hard drive?
>>
>
> Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. External USB hard drive, external USB Floppy drive, and even external USB CDROM
> drives if the BIOS alternate boot menu is to be believed.
>
> --
> Dave
Wow, that's a new development! I've been reading so far
that booting from USB external hard drives needed a fairly
serious degree of hack. What make and model of PC is it that
has this feature of its BIOS?

*TimDaniels*


John John - MVP
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-06-2009, 06:39 PM
Timothy Daniels wrote:
> "Dave R." wrote:
>
>>"Timothy Daniels" asked:
>>
>>>"Dave R." wrote:
>>>
>>>>Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at least the ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV with
>>>>other versions of Ghost, other models of PCs and other drive enclosures. I had to boot to floppy or CD rather then
>>>>a bootable USB stick to do it though, because the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it instead of
>>>>the USB stick when both were connected. FYI, I use Win 98's DOS for my boot media (and no USB drivers loaded), but
>>>>it would probably work with most any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't doesn't seem to care about DOS version, nor does
>>>>it seem to need USB drivers as long as the BIOS sees the drive.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>Are you saying by
>>>"the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it
>>>instead of the USB stick when both were connected"
>>>that your Dell PC can boot from an external USB hard drive?
>>>
>>
>>Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. External USB hard drive, external USB Floppy drive, and even external USB CDROM
>>drives if the BIOS alternate boot menu is to be believed.
>>
>>--
>>Dave
>
>
> Wow, that's a new development! I've been reading so far
> that booting from USB external hard drives needed a fairly
> serious degree of hack. What make and model of PC is it that
> has this feature of its BIOS?
Booting from USB devices is nothing new, it's been around for a few
years. You're probably thinking of booting a Windows installation on a
USB device, Windows Embedded can boot from a USB device but other than
that it is not a supported boot method for "regular" Windows operating
systems, you have to hack the Windows boot process to make this happen.

John

Dave R.
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-06-2009, 07:21 PM

"Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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> "Dave R." wrote:
>>
>> "Timothy Daniels" asked:
>>> "Dave R." wrote:
>>>> Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at
>>>> least the ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV with other
>>>> versions of Ghost, other models of PCs and other drive
>>>> enclosures. I had to boot to floppy or CD rather then a bootable
>>>> USB stick to do it though, because the Dell seemed to find the
>>>> USB HDD and try to boot from it instead of the USB stick when
>>>> both were connected. FYI, I use Win 98's DOS for my boot media
>>>> (and no USB drivers loaded), but it would probably work with most
>>>> any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't doesn't seem to care about DOS
>>>> version, nor does it seem to need USB drivers as long as the BIOS
>>>> sees the drive.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you saying by
>>> "the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it
>>> instead of the USB stick when both were connected"
>>> that your Dell PC can boot from an external USB hard drive?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. External USB hard drive,
>> external USB Floppy drive, and even external USB CDROM
>> drives if the BIOS alternate boot menu is to be believed.
>>
>> --
>> Dave
>
> Wow, that's a new development! I've been reading so far
> that booting from USB external hard drives needed a fairly
> serious degree of hack. What make and model of PC is it that
> has this feature of its BIOS?
>
Dell Optiplex 755, and I'm pretty sure some previous models are able
to as well. No idea how far back it goes in the Optiplex line,
though, nor if other Dell models are similarly capable. That said,
I'm talking about DOS or Linux boot, NOT Windows - MS hasn't made that
available in their products outside of XP Embedded, and that is even a
recent addition.

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Dave


Timothy Daniels
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-06-2009, 07:51 PM
"Dave R." explained:
>
> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>> "Dave R." wrote:
>>>
>>> "Timothy Daniels" asked:
>>>> "Dave R." wrote:
>>>>> Symantec Ghost 11.1 reads external USB HDDs just fine (or at least the ones I have) on Dell Optiplex PCs. YMMV
>>>>> with other versions of Ghost, other models of PCs and other drive enclosures. I had to boot to floppy or CD
>>>>> rather then a bootable USB stick to do it though, because the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from
>>>>> it instead of the USB stick when both were connected. FYI, I use Win 98's DOS for my boot media (and no USB
>>>>> drivers loaded), but it would probably work with most any version of DOS. Ghost doesn't doesn't seem to care
>>>>> about DOS version, nor does it seem to need USB drivers as long as the BIOS sees the drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying by
>>>> "the Dell seemed to find the USB HDD and try to boot from it
>>>> instead of the USB stick when both were connected"
>>>> that your Dell PC can boot from an external USB hard drive?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. External USB hard drive, external USB Floppy drive, and even external USB
>>> CDROM
>>> drives if the BIOS alternate boot menu is to be believed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave
>>
>> Wow, that's a new development! I've been reading so far
>> that booting from USB external hard drives needed a fairly
>> serious degree of hack. What make and model of PC is it that
>> has this feature of its BIOS?
>>
>
> Dell Optiplex 755, and I'm pretty sure some previous models are able to as well. No idea how far back it goes in the
> Optiplex line, though, nor if other Dell models are similarly capable. That said, I'm talking about DOS or Linux
> boot, NOT Windows - MS hasn't made that available in their products outside of XP Embedded, and that is even a recent
> addition.
>
> --
> Dave

OK, thanks. I guess I don't have to run out and buy a USB external HD
to boot my Vista and XP Pro. I sure would like to be able to boot Vista
onto my laptop from an external HD, though. I have an eSATA adaptor
which I thought might do it from an eSATA external HD, but not joy.

*TimDaniels*


Timothy Daniels
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Re: Restore ghost from External USB HDD ?
Posted: 03-06-2009, 07:56 PM
"John John - MVP" wrote:
> Booting from USB devices is nothing new, it's been around for a few years. You're probably thinking of booting a
> Windows installation on a USB device, Windows Embedded can boot from a USB device but
> other than that it is not a supported boot method for "regular" Windows
> operating systems, you have to hack the Windows boot process
> to make this happen.
>
> John
Yes, I boot a minimal Linux from a USB "thumb" drive for my laptop.
But I was interested in booting an entire Windows Vista and XP Pro
from an external HD. I didn't know that Windows was the limiting
factor, though. Is it fear of pirating that causes Microsoft to not enable
booting from USB devices?

*TimDaniels*


 
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