running a seperate hard drive

Posted: 12-20-2003, 08:51 PM
I have a computer in NY. The mother board crashed so I removed the c drive and took it with me to Florida where I spend My winters. I purchased a new system in Florida and installed the c drive in the slave position on my new computer , which recognizes it as the F drive . However I am unable to open any of the programs, due to the fact that that operating system is windows 98. Question? How do I set up my computer to operate either c or f drives with their respective operating systems ?
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)
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Re: running a seperate hard drive
Posted: 12-20-2003, 09:54 PM
You cannot open programs on an operating system unless they are installed
under that system. In other words, inferring from your post since you tell
us, if the new system is XP, it cannot open applications installed on the 98
drive because they are installed under Windows 98 and not XP, the same is
true going the other way.

Applications need to be installed in the operating system in which they are
going to be used. 98 has no awareness of the applications installed on XP
and XP has no awareness of the applications installed on 98. The may be
able to see each other's files and folders but applications run an install
routine in which they are installed in the operating system in order for the
system to be able to open them and in order for the application to hook into
the operating system to establish full functionality and take advantage of
the features of the operating system.

You can see a car driving in the lane next to you but you cannot control or
drive that car.

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DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Don" <donkilner(removethis)@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I have a computer in NY. The mother board crashed so I removed the c drive
>and took it with me to Florida where I spend My winters. I purchased a new
>system in Florida and installed the c drive in the slave position on my new
>computer , which recognizes it as the F drive . However I am unable to open
>any of the programs, due to the fact that that operating system is windows
>98. Question? How do I set up my computer to operate either c or f drives
>with their respective operating systems ?

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Re: running a seperate hard drive
Posted: 12-21-2003, 06:36 PM


----- Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/Us wrote: ----

You cannot open programs on an operating system unless they are installed
under that system. In other words, inferring from your post since you tell
us, if the new system is XP, it cannot open applications installed on the 98
drive because they are installed under Windows 98 and not XP, the same is
true going the other way

Applications need to be installed in the operating system in which they are
going to be used. 98 has no awareness of the applications installed on XP
and XP has no awareness of the applications installed on 98. The may be
able to see each other's files and folders but applications run an install
routine in which they are installed in the operating system in order for the
system to be able to open them and in order for the application to hook into
the operating system to establish full functionality and take advantage of
the features of the operating system

You can see a car driving in the lane next to you but you cannot control or
drive that car

--
Michael Solomon MS-MV
Windows Shell/Use
Backup is a PC User's Best Frien
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org

"Don" <donkilner(removethis)@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I have a computer in NY. The mother board crashed so I removed the c drive
>and took it with me to Florida where I spend My winters. I purchased a new
>system in Florida and installed the c drive in the slave position on my new
>computer , which recognizes it as the F drive . However I am unable to open
>any of the programs, due to the fact that that operating system is windows
>98. Question? How do I set up my computer to operate either c or f drives
>with their respective operating systems ?

Mike i read some where that you can configure your computer to boot either 98 or xp ( either or) by going into the system setup and selecting your primary program or your secondary program. However when I tried to do this the computer only shows windows xp. The illustration you used about 2 cars was good, you can only drive one at a time. And that is exactly what I want to do, use one program at a time. something like going to the garage where you have two cars parked and decide which one you want to drive, the new or the old. the problem I have is that I have a ton of word processing documents in microsoft works, and I mistakenly assumed when I purchased a dell system, that MSW would be on the new computer. I also have a bunch of other programs I would like to access.
Thanks for your patience, God Bless, Don
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Re: running a seperate hard drive
Posted: 12-21-2003, 07:00 PM
Ah, but what you are now asking is different from what was put forth
originally. In order to setup a dual boot scenario using XP tools, XP must
be the last operating system installed and the dual boot will be set up
during XP installation.

Since XP is already installed and you've added the 98 drive to the setup,
this now requires third party software such as Partition Magic's "Boot
Magic" component, www.powerquest.com. While "Boot Magic" is only available
as a part of Partition Magic, PM is a useful tool though you need to be sure
you are using a version compatible with XP.

This can't be done simply by adding a line to the boot.ini file as changes
must be made to the master boot record. It much less dangerous or
complicated simply to use a tool designed for this purpose.

Once done, at bootup you will have the choice of which operating system into
which to boot, giving you access to whatever applications are installed
under the operating system that you choose at that time.


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Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

"Don" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> ----- Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/Us wrote: -----
>
> You cannot open programs on an operating system unless they are
> installed
> under that system. In other words, inferring from your post since you
> tell
> us, if the new system is XP, it cannot open applications installed on
> the 98
> drive because they are installed under Windows 98 and not XP, the same
> is
> true going the other way.
>
> Applications need to be installed in the operating system in which
> they are
> going to be used. 98 has no awareness of the applications installed
> on XP
> and XP has no awareness of the applications installed on 98. The may
> be
> able to see each other's files and folders but applications run an
> install
> routine in which they are installed in the operating system in order
> for the
> system to be able to open them and in order for the application to
> hook into
> the operating system to establish full functionality and take
> advantage of
> the features of the operating system.
>
> You can see a car driving in the lane next to you but you cannot
> control or
> drive that car.
>
> --
> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> "Don" <donkilner(removethis)@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:E54AA401-A8FD-43D2-B78E-E833A8F4EADE@microsoft.com...
> >I have a computer in NY. The mother board crashed so I removed the c
> drive
> >and took it with me to Florida where I spend My winters. I purchased
> a new
> >system in Florida and installed the c drive in the slave position on
> my new
> >computer , which recognizes it as the F drive . However I am unable
> to open
> >any of the programs, due to the fact that that operating system is
> windows
> >98. Question? How do I set up my computer to operate either c or f
> drives
> >with their respective operating systems ?
>
>
> Mike i read some where that you can configure your computer to boot
> either 98 or xp ( either or) by going into the system setup and selecting
> your primary program or your secondary program. However when I tried to do
> this the computer only shows windows xp. The illustration you used about 2
> cars was good, you can only drive one at a time. And that is exactly what
> I want to do, use one program at a time. something like going to the
> garage where you have two cars parked and decide which one you want to
> drive, the new or the old. the problem I have is that I have a ton of word
> processing documents in microsoft works, and I mistakenly assumed when I
> purchased a dell system, that MSW would be on the new computer. I also
> have a bunch of other programs I would like to access.
> Thanks for your patience, God Bless, Don

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Re: running a seperate hard drive
Posted: 12-21-2003, 09:31 PM


----- Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/Us wrote: ----

Ah, but what you are now asking is different from what was put forth
originally. In order to setup a dual boot scenario using XP tools, XP must
be the last operating system installed and the dual boot will be set up
during XP installation

Since XP is already installed and you've added the 98 drive to the setup,
this now requires third party software such as Partition Magic's "Boot
Magic" component, www.powerquest.com. While "Boot Magic" is only available
as a part of Partition Magic, PM is a useful tool though you need to be sure
you are using a version compatible with XP

This can't be done simply by adding a line to the boot.ini file as changes
must be made to the master boot record. It much less dangerous or
complicated simply to use a tool designed for this purpose

Once done, at bootup you will have the choice of which operating system into
which to boot, giving you access to whatever applications are installed
under the operating system that you choose at that time


--
Michael Solomon MS-MV
Windows Shell/Use
Backup is a PC User's Best Frien
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org

"Don" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>>> ----- Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/Us wrote: ----
>> You cannot open programs on an operating system unless they are
> installe
> under that system. In other words, inferring from your post since you
> tel
> us, if the new system is XP, it cannot open applications installed on
> the 9
> drive because they are installed under Windows 98 and not XP, the same
> i
> true going the other way
>> Applications need to be installed in the operating system in which
> they ar
> going to be used. 98 has no awareness of the applications installed
> on X
> and XP has no awareness of the applications installed on 98. The may
> b
> able to see each other's files and folders but applications run an
> instal
> routine in which they are installed in the operating system in order
> for th
> system to be able to open them and in order for the application to
> hook int
> the operating system to establish full functionality and take
> advantage o
> the features of the operating system
>> You can see a car driving in the lane next to you but you cannot
> control o
> drive that car
>> --
> Michael Solomon MS-MV
> Windows Shell/Use
> Backup is a PC User's Best Frien
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org
>> "Don" <donkilner(removethis)@aol.com> wrote in messag
> news:E54AA401-A8FD-43D2-B78E-E833A8F4EADE@microsoft.com..
>>I have a computer in NY. The mother board crashed so I removed the c
> driv
>>and took it with me to Florida where I spend My winters. I purchased
> a ne
>>system in Florida and installed the c drive in the slave position on
> my ne
>>computer , which recognizes it as the F drive . However I am unable
> to ope
>>any of the programs, due to the fact that that operating system is
> window
>>98. Question? How do I set up my computer to operate either c or f
> drive
>>with their respective operating systems
>>> Mike i read some where that you can configure your computer to boot
> either 98 or xp ( either or) by going into the system setup and selecting
> your primary program or your secondary program. However when I tried to do
> this the computer only shows windows xp. The illustration you used about 2
> cars was good, you can only drive one at a time. And that is exactly what
> I want to do, use one program at a time. something like going to the
> garage where you have two cars parked and decide which one you want to
> drive, the new or the old. the problem I have is that I have a ton of word
> processing documents in microsoft works, and I mistakenly assumed when I
> purchased a dell system, that MSW would be on the new computer. I also
> have a bunch of other programs I would like to access.
> Thanks for your patience, God Bless, Don


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