search options

Posted: 10-19-2008, 01:25 AM

First I would like the search bar in the start menu to always search
everywhere. I have looked for various settings options and always chose
search everywhere if it was an option. When I use search it only ever
gives me results within my user files. I do not want to have to click on
advanced search everytime I use it to change the setting to everywhere.
Is this even possible to have it automatically search my entire drive
and desktop as a default?

Second I was trying to search for a file on my hard drive called
firefox_logo2. I typed in firefox into the search field. (at the time I
wasn't sure about the _logo2 part). Why did search not check my drive or
user files or anything for files and just launched Firefox. Why would it
do this? I don't ever want the search field to launch a program. I want
it to find files and directories and whatever that exist on my hard
drive. How can I get search to actually give me a search of the drive
and not launch applications????????


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Wandering
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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 02:54 AM
Buy a different operating system. I know it sounds like a brush off, but it
simply is not possible to make Vista or any operating system behave just
exactly as any particular person wants it to. The pop up window on the Orb
(Start button) is also a program launcher in much the same way the run box
was on earlier versions. However, whatever it finds it will not launch until
you hit enter, so if you don't want it to launch a program, just close it
without hitting enter.

As to what it searches, it is not a general search engine, it is an indexed
search engine, and it will only search those drives and folders that it has
indexed, which you can adjust at will in the control panel. If you want to
only search and never launch, though I can't see the slightest advantage to
that, you can use a freeware product like Agent Ransack which does a brute
force search of the whole selected drive or folder without benefit of an
index. The reason for indexing is speed. It is much faster to search an
index than to search the drive.

Good luck.


"Squa190" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> First I would like the search bar in the start menu to always search
> everywhere. I have looked for various settings options and always chose
> search everywhere if it was an option. When I use search it only ever
> gives me results within my user files. I do not want to have to click on
> advanced search everytime I use it to change the setting to everywhere.
> Is this even possible to have it automatically search my entire drive
> and desktop as a default?
>
> Second I was trying to search for a file on my hard drive called
> firefox_logo2. I typed in firefox into the search field. (at the time I
> wasn't sure about the _logo2 part). Why did search not check my drive or
> user files or anything for files and just launched Firefox. Why would it
> do this? I don't ever want the search field to launch a program. I want
> it to find files and directories and whatever that exist on my hard
> drive. How can I get search to actually give me a search of the drive
> and not launch applications????????
>
>
> --
> Squa190
Brink
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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 04:36 AM

Squa190;865212 Wrote:
> First I would like the search bar in the start menu to always searc
> everywhere. I have looked for various settings options and always chos
> search everywhere if it was an option. When I use search it only eve
> gives me results within my user files. I do not want to have to click o
> advanced search everytime I use it to change the setting to everywhere
> Is this even possible to have it automatically search my entire driv
> and desktop as a default
>
> Second I was trying to search for a file on my hard drive calle
> firefox_logo2. I typed in firefox into the search field. (at the time
> wasn't sure about the _logo2 part). Why did search not check my drive o
> user files or anything for files and just launched Firefox. Why would i
> do this? I don't ever want the search field to launch a program. I wan
> it to find files and directories and whatever that exist on my har
> drive. How can I get search to actually give me a search of the driv
> and not launch applications???????
Hello Squa

To help with this, you can disable the search Index so Vista wil
default to always doing a non-indexed search

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/69...le-disable.htm

Next, set your Search settings to something similar to the screensho
in this tutorial below to always have a thorough search.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75...ch-options.htm

Hope this helps
Shaw

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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 05:15 AM

I suspect that you may have hit the "Enter" key after you typed Firefox
If so, the first item found would be launched. Just type and wai
without hitting Enter

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Squa190
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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 06:07 AM

First to the wandering guest I nee to say that search should be able to
do what Find did which occurred in every windows OS I've used since 3.1
up to XP. I can certainly expect Microsoft not to kill a very useful
function that it has always had.

Now, as to Brink who is always helpful. My indexing was already
disabled and even if it hadnt been I had already indexed my entire c:
drive. I made sure it was disabled using both methods listed in the
tutorial and it still wont search for the file. Advanced settings are
set to Everywhere and the box is checked to search index or not but is
greyed out (im assuming because indexing is disabled) When I search
anything it still only searches my user files. I then have to go into
Advanced Search and research to get it to actually check everywhere even
though everywhere is already the choice in the field. ???

Ifonlea if i dont hit enter only the two matches within the start menu
show up.

Even if i try putting firef or some other shortened version of the file
name inthe search field only firefox and firefox (safe mode) from the
start menu appear and if i hit enter it still lauches firefox.

Even when I type in what I want to find and then without hitting enter
move the mouse and click on the search everywhere link that shows up
right above the search field in the start menu it still only searches my
user files. Why wouldn't it seach everywhere like the link
implies?????????????????????????????????

Vista is total frustration what were they
thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the simplest task of all and it's not doable apparently.

Brink please help. I even just verified the location of the file and it
is within the documents folder in my user files on the hard drive. Even
without it searching everywhere it should have found it in the user
files. All it ever does in show the search screen and then notify me yet
again that I have turned indexing off.(which is annoying is there anyway
to turn that crap off)


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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 06:26 AM

Squa

You will also need to set your *Search settings* to something simila
to the screenshot in this tutorial below to always have a thoroug
search for what you need.

'Search Options
(http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75...h-options.html

For some searching tips see:

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75...ced-search.htm

an

'Tips for finding files - Windows Vista Help
(http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...02ec61033.mspx

an

'Windows Vista Team Blog : Advanced search techniques
(http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/wi...echniques.aspx

Hope this helps
Shaw

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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 07:38 AM

Thanks Brink but those links only tell me how to use different searc
options. None of them tell me why that even when I use the searc
everywhere link above the search field it still only searches the use
files. Nor do they tell me why it won't find the file even though it i
in the user files. Nor do they tell me why search everywhere won'
remain the default option to search by. Nor do they tell me why if th
file name is even remotely close to anything in your start menu it won
search beyond the start menu at all. "Find" in previous versions o
windows was so much easier and better. So far all I have found is tha
"search" allows you to use boolean. La ti Da if it can't find a fil
without being told to go beyond the user files or even find a file tha
is in the user files. I can't win, Microsoft certainly won't refund m
money that I paid to get this OS and I couldn't have found out it was
nightmare without buying it. And even if I end up going to Ubuntu o
something else Microsoft business practices have made it impossible t
find the same kind of software for those OS. Sorry, I've just had t
spend so much time that I don't have trying to do the simplist things.
am grateful for the help but I'm starting to wonder cuz most of th
answers I have found through this forum involve third party downloads t
help fix a registry problem or something like that. Doesn't it strik
you as odd that all these people can easily fix these things and ye
microsoft won't just fix em and put them in an update

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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 07:50 AM

Squa,

I find that clicking on the hard drive letter that you want to search
through in Computer, then search using the Search box in Windows
Explorer works better instead. You must set the 'Search Options'
(http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/75...h-options.html) though as
described above.


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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 09:21 AM

Thanks Brink that works the most efficient. Starts searching the whol
drive right away. It's funny. There are only so many uses or actions
do in Windows and it seems like I'm hitting every soar spot in th
software for what I do with it. LOL. I'm in that mid spot where I kno
computers but I'm not super Tech so XP was great for me. You coul
tinker with your computer and have an easy point click interface all i
one. Although since windows has always been a PC version of the MA
point-click interface it has been getting continually more restrictiv
to tinkerers with each new Version. I would have gotten XP 64 but the
I heard the drivers wouldn't be updated after January. Thanks again

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Re: search options
Posted: 10-19-2008, 09:29 AM

Your welcome Squa. I'm happy that this will work for you.

Shawn


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