Security, always ask for permission want to turn off

Posted: 02-12-2007, 02:33 AM
How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to keep
asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when the
programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really getiing
past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how, it does
not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy, so
please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can preform the
required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.

Security, always ask for permission want to turn off


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Rock
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-12-2007, 02:52 AM
"lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to keep
> asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when the
> programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
> McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really getiing
> past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how, it
> does
> not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy, so
> please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can preform
> the
> required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants to
do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also turning
off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to that
avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.

http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton product
in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
NOD32 is an excellent paid program.

Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights and
so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
compatible.

All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run | msconfig.
On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.

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Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Judith_9
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-12-2007, 04:10 AM
Okay, but what if I only want to turn off the warning for repeat programs;
i.e. programs I've already given permission to run. The warnings amount to
a nag screen - most annoying.

I installed the 90-day evaluation copy of Norton Security, but am
considering uninstalling, since it is not the easiest interface. I've used
Zone Alarm Pro for years and would like to know whether it is compatible with
Vista. If I use System Configuration to disable Windows Firewall, will that
eliminate any compatibility problems?

J.


"Rock" wrote:
> "lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
> > How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to keep
> > asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when the
> > programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
> > McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really getiing
> > past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how, it
> > does
> > not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy, so
> > please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can preform
> > the
> > required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
>
> That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
> off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants to
> do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
> permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
> system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also turning
> off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to that
> avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.
>
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>
> Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton product
> in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
> Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
> NOD32 is an excellent paid program.
>
> Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights and
> so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
> need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
> Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
> compatible.
>
> All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run | msconfig.
> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>
Rock
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-12-2007, 04:53 AM
"Judith_9" <Judith9@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> Okay, but what if I only want to turn off the warning for repeat programs;
> i.e. programs I've already given permission to run. The warnings amount
> to
> a nag screen - most annoying.
>
> I installed the 90-day evaluation copy of Norton Security, but am
> considering uninstalling, since it is not the easiest interface. I've
> used
> Zone Alarm Pro for years and would like to know whether it is compatible
> with
> Vista. If I use System Configuration to disable Windows Firewall, will
> that
> eliminate any compatibility problems?
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>> "lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>
>> > How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to
>> > keep
>> > asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when
>> > the
>> > programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
>> > McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really
>> > getiing
>> > past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how,
>> > it
>> > does
>> > not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy,
>> > so
>> > please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can
>> > preform
>> > the
>> > required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
>>
>> That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
>> off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants
>> to
>> do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
>> permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
>> system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also
>> turning
>> off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to
>> that
>> avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.
>>
>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>>
>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>>
>> Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton
>> product
>> in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
>> Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
>> NOD32 is an excellent paid program.
>>
>> Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights
>> and
>> so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
>> need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
>> Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
>> compatible.
>>
>> All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run |
>> msconfig.
>> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
No you cannot selectively turn off UAC for one program. Then all malware
would have to do is masquerade as that program and have admin level access.
Don't think of it as a nag screen, think of it as giving you control to know
when a program is doing something that requires admin level privileges.
From an admin account all you have to do is click the button to give
permission.

Once the system is set up, you will find the number of times UAC prompts
drops off. And as more programs are properly coded to work in Vista this
will decrease even more.

I don't think ZA is compatible yet with Vista. Check on their web site. If
a 3rd party firewall is used, then disable the OS firewall, it's best not to
have multiple firewalls running.

The firewall in Vista is much improved over XP. In it's default
configuration it monitors inbound connections but can be set up to monitor
outbound connections as well. I don't think I will be getting a 3rd party
firewall for Vista which I did use in XP (Kerio Personal Firewall, and
Comodo Personal Firewall).

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Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Judith_9
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-12-2007, 06:46 AM
So you think that the Windows Vista Firewall is a good one?

How about Vista's AV capability?

The last thing I want is holes in my security through no fault of my own.

I'll probably continue to use the Norton at least until the trial period
expires. By then there should be more feed back on the effectiveness of
Vista firewall and antivirus.

J.

"Rock" wrote:
> "Judith_9" <Judith9@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
> > Okay, but what if I only want to turn off the warning for repeat programs;
> > i.e. programs I've already given permission to run. The warnings amount
> > to
> > a nag screen - most annoying.
> >
> > I installed the 90-day evaluation copy of Norton Security, but am
> > considering uninstalling, since it is not the easiest interface. I've
> > used
> > Zone Alarm Pro for years and would like to know whether it is compatible
> > with
> > Vista. If I use System Configuration to disable Windows Firewall, will
> > that
> > eliminate any compatibility problems?
>
> > "Rock" wrote:
> >
> >> "lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >>
> >> > How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to
> >> > keep
> >> > asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when
> >> > the
> >> > programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
> >> > McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really
> >> > getiing
> >> > past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how,
> >> > it
> >> > does
> >> > not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy,
> >> > so
> >> > please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can
> >> > preform
> >> > the
> >> > required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
> >> off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants
> >> to
> >> do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
> >> permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
> >> system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also
> >> turning
> >> off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to
> >> that
> >> avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.
> >>
> >> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
> >>
> >> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
> >>
> >> Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton
> >> product
> >> in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
> >> Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
> >> NOD32 is an excellent paid program.
> >>
> >> Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights
> >> and
> >> so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
> >> need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
> >> Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
> >> compatible.
> >>
> >> All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run |
> >> msconfig.
> >> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
>
> No you cannot selectively turn off UAC for one program. Then all malware
> would have to do is masquerade as that program and have admin level access.
> Don't think of it as a nag screen, think of it as giving you control to know
> when a program is doing something that requires admin level privileges.
> From an admin account all you have to do is click the button to give
> permission.
>
> Once the system is set up, you will find the number of times UAC prompts
> drops off. And as more programs are properly coded to work in Vista this
> will decrease even more.
>
> I don't think ZA is compatible yet with Vista. Check on their web site. If
> a 3rd party firewall is used, then disable the OS firewall, it's best not to
> have multiple firewalls running.
>
> The firewall in Vista is much improved over XP. In it's default
> configuration it monitors inbound connections but can be set up to monitor
> outbound connections as well. I don't think I will be getting a 3rd party
> firewall for Vista which I did use in XP (Kerio Personal Firewall, and
> Comodo Personal Firewall).
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>
Rock
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-12-2007, 06:59 AM
"Judith_9" <Judith9@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> So you think that the Windows Vista Firewall is a good one?
>
> How about Vista's AV capability?
>
> The last thing I want is holes in my security through no fault of my own.
>
> I'll probably continue to use the Norton at least until the trial period
> expires. By then there should be more feed back on the effectiveness of
> Vista firewall and antivirus.
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>> "Judith_9" <Judith9@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>
>> > Okay, but what if I only want to turn off the warning for repeat
>> > programs;
>> > i.e. programs I've already given permission to run. The warnings
>> > amount
>> > to
>> > a nag screen - most annoying.
>> >
>> > I installed the 90-day evaluation copy of Norton Security, but am
>> > considering uninstalling, since it is not the easiest interface. I've
>> > used
>> > Zone Alarm Pro for years and would like to know whether it is
>> > compatible
>> > with
>> > Vista. If I use System Configuration to disable Windows Firewall, will
>> > that
>> > eliminate any compatibility problems?
>>
>> > "Rock" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> >>
>> >> > How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer
>> >> > to
>> >> > keep
>> >> > asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even
>> >> > when
>> >> > the
>> >> > programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to
>> >> > open
>> >> > McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really
>> >> > getiing
>> >> > past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know
>> >> > how,
>> >> > it
>> >> > does
>> >> > not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer
>> >> > savy,
>> >> > so
>> >> > please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can
>> >> > preform
>> >> > the
>> >> > required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
>> >>
>> >> That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to
>> >> turn
>> >> off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process
>> >> wants
>> >> to
>> >> do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
>> >> permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on
>> >> your
>> >> system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also
>> >> turning
>> >> off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you
>> >> to
>> >> that
>> >> avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>> >>
>> >> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>> >>
>> >> Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton
>> >> product
>> >> in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
>> >> Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and
>> >> Avast.
>> >> NOD32 is an excellent paid program.
>> >>
>> >> Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin
>> >> rights
>> >> and
>> >> so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista
>> >> won't
>> >> need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates
>> >> to
>> >> Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
>> >> compatible.
>> >>
>> >> All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run |
>> >> msconfig.
>> >> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
>>
>> No you cannot selectively turn off UAC for one program. Then all malware
>> would have to do is masquerade as that program and have admin level
>> access.
>> Don't think of it as a nag screen, think of it as giving you control to
>> know
>> when a program is doing something that requires admin level privileges.
>> From an admin account all you have to do is click the button to give
>> permission.
>>
>> Once the system is set up, you will find the number of times UAC prompts
>> drops off. And as more programs are properly coded to work in Vista this
>> will decrease even more.
>>
>> I don't think ZA is compatible yet with Vista. Check on their web site.
>> If
>> a 3rd party firewall is used, then disable the OS firewall, it's best not
>> to
>> have multiple firewalls running.
>>
>> The firewall in Vista is much improved over XP. In it's default
>> configuration it monitors inbound connections but can be set up to
>> monitor
>> outbound connections as well. I don't think I will be getting a 3rd
>> party
>> firewall for Vista which I did use in XP (Kerio Personal Firewall, and
>> Comodo Personal Firewall).
Yes I think the Vista firewall is fine. Unless some info comes out in the
future to suggest otherwise I have no intention of getting a 3rd party
firewall. In XP, however, I would not be without one. I am also behind a
NAT router with SPI. Home routers with NAT are relatively inexpensive, in
the $50-$60 range.

There is no AV in Vista. It does come with Defender which is for non viral
malware. Additionally I installed several other anti-malware apps that were
also useful in XP: Ad aware SE Personal, Spybot S&D, and Spyware Blaster.

In my first reply I mentioned that there are good Vista compatible AV
programs available. Avast and AVG offer free versions ( I use Avast), and
NOD32 is an excellent paid product. Avast has worked well enough for me
that I can't see springing for the cost of NOD32 but were I so inclined
that's the paid AV product I would choose.

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Vista Firewall
Posted: 04-29-2007, 02:23 AM
Vista firewall is only marginally better than the old XP version, in that it can block incomming & outgoing apps. It does not however, spoof (make your PC invisible) your ports on the web. For this you need Nortons or Zone Alarm, etc. I'm still waiting for a Vista compatible version of Zone Alarm!

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Rock
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Re: Vista Firewall
Posted: 04-29-2007, 03:00 AM
"Captain Kayos" wrote in message news:200742822234cen019@hotmail.com...
> Vista firewall is only marginally better than the old XP version, in that
> it can block incomming & outgoing apps. It does not however, spoof (make
> your PC invisible) your ports on the web. For this you need Nortons or
> Zone Alarm, etc. I'm still waiting for a Vista compatible version of Zone
> Alarm!

You're posting to an old thread, you changed the subject, and you didn't
quote any of the message to which you reply. Besides I disagree with your
statement that the Vista firewall is "only marginally better than the old XP
version." No need for a 3rd party firewall.

Why does it seem that no one who posts from Egghead Cafe knows how to post
properly?
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Nobody777
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-27-2008, 01:26 AM
Forgive me if I missed something... You're commenting on someone not being
very computer savvy and yet, concerning Windows Vista, you instructed him to
do the following:

"All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run | msconfig.
On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot."

Perhaps I am not as savvy either... Please explain where "run" is on the
Vista menu?

What I presume you have done is changed your Vista start menu to look like
the Classic XP start menu... in which case you do then have a RUN command.
However, by default, this is not an option.

To change your menu you need to right click the Windows "start" button and
then choose Properties. Then click the tab that says "Start Menu" and change
it to "Classic Start Menu". Then you will see the "run" option. After that
the other instructions will make more sense...

Hope that helps.

Peace,
Dave




"Rock" wrote:
> "lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>
> > How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to keep
> > asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when the
> > programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
> > McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really getiing
> > past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how, it
> > does
> > not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy, so
> > please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can preform
> > the
> > required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
>
> That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
> off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants to
> do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
> permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
> system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also turning
> off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to that
> avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.
>
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>
> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>
> Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton product
> in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
> Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
> NOD32 is an excellent paid program.
>
> Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights and
> so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
> need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
> Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
> compatible.
>
> All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run | msconfig.
> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>
>
Younis
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Re: Security, always ask for permission want to turn off
Posted: 02-27-2008, 07:28 AM
its there, when you click start there is "start search", type run.

so simple not that tricky!!


"Nobody777" <Nobody777@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8FD8C383-535B-4A29-B40C-E8E87DC7F69E@microsoft.com...
> Forgive me if I missed something... You're commenting on someone not
> being
> very computer savvy and yet, concerning Windows Vista, you instructed him
> to
> do the following:
>
> "All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run |
> msconfig.
> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot."
>
> Perhaps I am not as savvy either... Please explain where "run" is on the
> Vista menu?
>
> What I presume you have done is changed your Vista start menu to look like
> the Classic XP start menu... in which case you do then have a RUN command.
> However, by default, this is not an option.
>
> To change your menu you need to right click the Windows "start" button and
> then choose Properties. Then click the tab that says "Start Menu" and
> change
> it to "Classic Start Menu". Then you will see the "run" option. After
> that
> the other instructions will make more sense...
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Peace,
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> "Rock" wrote:
>
>> "lilmommaof3" <lilmommaof3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>
>> > How do I turn off the User account control that causes my computer to
>> > keep
>> > asking me if I executed the program and if I want to run it, even when
>> > the
>> > programs were pre-loaded on my comp. It even does it when I try to open
>> > McAfee Security Center, and it does it every time. This is really
>> > getiing
>> > past the annoying point. I want to turn it off and I do not know how,
>> > it
>> > does
>> > not give me an qption to do so that I see. I am not very computer savy,
>> > so
>> > please any answers you may give need to be simply worded so I can
>> > preform
>> > the
>> > required tasks without getting confused. Thanks for your help.
>>
>> That you are not very computer savvy is an excellent reason _not_ to turn
>> off User Access Control. It alerts you when a program or process wants
>> to
>> do something that requires admin rights, and it's asking you to grant
>> permission. If you turn it off, any piece of malware that get's on your
>> system can run in an admin context and cause major problems. Also
>> turning
>> off UAC turns off protected mode for internet explorer, exposing you to
>> that
>> avenue for malware infection. See these links for info on UAC.
>>
>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/security/uac.aspx
>>
>> http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
>>
>> Personally I would get rid of McAfee products, (and not use a Norton
>> product
>> in its place either). Vista has it's own firewall, and there are good
>> Anti-Virus programs available, some of which are free like AVG and Avast.
>> NOD32 is an excellent paid program.
>>
>> Take a close look at the other programs that are asking for admin rights
>> and
>> so invoking UAC. Most programs that are properly coded for Vista won't
>> need admin rights and so shouldn't be invoking UAC. Look for updates to
>> Vista compatible versions or replace them with something that is Vista
>> compatible.
>>
>> All this being said if you want to turn it off go to start | run |
>> msconfig.
>> On the Tools tab click on Disable UAC and OK out. Then reboot.
>>
>> --
>> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]
>>
>>
 
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