setting up RD without a VPN connection ?

Keep talking to Al, but I just want to reiterate that the VPN is not
necessary for RD to work, nor is the VPN needed so that the information
being transmitted is encrypted.

A VPN connection does make the connection more secure--less susceptable to
certain types of attacks--"man in the middle" attacks.

You can definitely work without it and many of us do, regularly.

"Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on it.
>I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can I use RD
>without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other than RD? FYI,
>the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've followed the
>directions at
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>
> Daniel
>

The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public internet. The
client is in New Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The
connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes as slow as 20 kbps with high
ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is running WinXP Pro
SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of the system control
panel. The client is using the remote desktop client software and is typing
in the IP of the host to try to connect. Offhand I don't remember the exact
text of the error message but it was generic sounding, "unable to estable a
connection". The host has the windows firewall turned off. The host is
directly connected to the internet and is not using a router. What other
details would be helpful in diagnosing the problem?

Thanks for the reply.

Daniel

"Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this
> over a LAN? Is this over the public internet? Is Remote Desktop enabled on
> the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the W2K box to the XP Pro box,
> ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>
> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
> Port 3389. Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also, is
> the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you need to get into the
> "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the checkbox.
>
> --
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
> benefit of all of us...
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on it.
>>I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can I use
>>RD without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other than RD?
>>FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've followed
>>the directions at
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>
>> Daniel
>>

>

Can the client ping the host machine?

Running with no firewall at all is risky.

Are you certain that there are no other software firewalls involved? Have
you checked that the IP address as seen by the host is the same IP address
as seen by going to :

http://whatismyip.com/

from the host--I'm trying to be sure that the ISP isn't running a
transparent proxy.


"Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O70QMl0pEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

> The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public internet.
> The client is in New Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The
> connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes as slow as 20 kbps with high
> ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is running WinXP Pro
> SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of the system control
> panel. The client is using the remote desktop client software and is
> typing in the IP of the host to try to connect. Offhand I don't remember
> the exact text of the error message but it was generic sounding, "unable
> to estable a connection". The host has the windows firewall turned off.
> The host is directly connected to the internet and is not using a router.
> What other details would be helpful in diagnosing the problem?
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Daniel
>
> "Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

>> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this
>> over a LAN? Is this over the public internet? Is Remote Desktop enabled
>> on the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the W2K box to the XP Pro
>> box, ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>>
>> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
>> Port 3389. Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also, is
>> the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you need to get into the
>> "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the
>> checkbox.
>>
>> --
>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
>> benefit of all of us...
>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights...
>>
>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

>>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on it.
>>>I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can I use
>>>RD without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other than RD?
>>>FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've followed
>>>the directions at
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>

>>

>
>

The client can NOT ping the host. I turned the firewall off to make sure it
wasn't the problem. If I can connect with the firewall off, then I'll try to
turn it on and still keep the RD connection. I am not certain that there are
no other software firewalls involved. But I am certain that the host
computer only has the WinXP SP2 firewall and that it is turned off. I got
the following info from www.pcpitstop.com
Bandwidth down: 100 Kbits/sec
Bandwidth up: 346 Kbits/sec
Average Ping: 153 ms
Ping Loss: 0%
TCP Receive Window: (default)
External IP Address: 200.xxx.xx.xx
Internal IP Address: 10.xx.xx.xxx
Browser: MSIE 6.0; SV1
IE current cache: 54 MB
IE max cache: 80 MB

I put Xs in for some of the numbers above for security reasons.
http://www.whatismyip.com/ gives me that same IP address as the above
external IP address.
I'm pretty knowledgeable with PCs but not with networking. Thank you for
your help.

Daniel

--------------------------------------------
"Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
news:OLiQIJ1pEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> Can the client ping the host machine?
>
> Running with no firewall at all is risky.
>
> Are you certain that there are no other software firewalls involved? Have
> you checked that the IP address as seen by the host is the same IP address
> as seen by going to :
>
> http://whatismyip.com/
>
> from the host--I'm trying to be sure that the ISP isn't running a
> transparent proxy.
>
>
> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O70QMl0pEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

>> The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public internet.
>> The client is in New Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The
>> connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes as slow as 20 kbps with high
>> ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is running WinXP
>> Pro SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of the system
>> control panel. The client is using the remote desktop client software and
>> is typing in the IP of the host to try to connect. Offhand I don't
>> remember the exact text of the error message but it was generic sounding,
>> "unable to estable a connection". The host has the windows firewall
>> turned off. The host is directly connected to the internet and is not
>> using a router. What other details would be helpful in diagnosing the
>> problem?
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> "Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

>>> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this
>>> over a LAN? Is this over the public internet? Is Remote Desktop enabled
>>> on the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the W2K box to the XP Pro
>>> box, ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>>>
>>> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
>>> Port 3389. Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also, is
>>> the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you need to get into the
>>> "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the
>>> checkbox.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>
>>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
>>> benefit of all of us...
>>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights...
>>>
>>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on it.
>>>>I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can I use
>>>>RD without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other than RD?
>>>>FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've followed
>>>>the directions at
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>>>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

A friend of mine said
"Reserved IP addresses for private networks
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
Yes. That is non-routable.
Therefore you cannot be a server.
unless they forward all 3389 ports to you."

Daniel
----------------------------------------------
"Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
news:OLiQIJ1pEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> Can the client ping the host machine?
>
> Running with no firewall at all is risky.
>
> Are you certain that there are no other software firewalls involved? Have
> you checked that the IP address as seen by the host is the same IP address
> as seen by going to :
>
> http://whatismyip.com/
>
> from the host--I'm trying to be sure that the ISP isn't running a
> transparent proxy.
>
>
> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O70QMl0pEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

>> The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public internet.
>> The client is in New Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The
>> connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes as slow as 20 kbps with high
>> ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is running WinXP
>> Pro SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of the system
>> control panel. The client is using the remote desktop client software and
>> is typing in the IP of the host to try to connect. Offhand I don't
>> remember the exact text of the error message but it was generic sounding,
>> "unable to estable a connection". The host has the windows firewall
>> turned off. The host is directly connected to the internet and is not
>> using a router. What other details would be helpful in diagnosing the
>> problem?
>>
>> Thanks for the reply.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> "Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

>>> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this
>>> over a LAN? Is this over the public internet? Is Remote Desktop enabled
>>> on the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the W2K box to the XP Pro
>>> box, ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>>>
>>> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
>>> Port 3389. Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also, is
>>> the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you need to get into the
>>> "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the
>>> checkbox.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>
>>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
>>> benefit of all of us...
>>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights...
>>>
>>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on it.
>>>>I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can I use
>>>>RD without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other than RD?
>>>>FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've followed
>>>>the directions at
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>>>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

Yep your friend is correct. It appears the PC your trying to connect to is behind a
firewall/NAT/router somewhere...

How is the PC your trying to connect to in Brazil accessing the public internet? Ie. a broadband
cable/DSL link or a dialup link or what?

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

"Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uQ0WET6pEHA.376@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

>A friend of mine said
> "Reserved IP addresses for private networks
> 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
> 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
> 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
> Yes. That is non-routable.
> Therefore you cannot be a server.
> unless they forward all 3389 ports to you."
>
> Daniel
> ----------------------------------------------
> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
> news:OLiQIJ1pEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

>> Can the client ping the host machine?
>>
>> Running with no firewall at all is risky.
>>
>> Are you certain that there are no other software firewalls involved? Have you checked that the
>> IP address as seen by the host is the same IP address as seen by going to :
>>
>> http://whatismyip.com/
>>
>> from the host--I'm trying to be sure that the ISP isn't running a transparent proxy.
>>
>>
>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O70QMl0pEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

>>> The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public internet. The client is in New
>>> Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes
>>> as slow as 20 kbps with high ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is running
>>> WinXP Pro SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of the system control panel. The
>>> client is using the remote desktop client software and is typing in the IP of the host to try to
>>> connect. Offhand I don't remember the exact text of the error message but it was generic
>>> sounding, "unable to estable a connection". The host has the windows firewall turned off. The
>>> host is directly connected to the internet and is not using a router. What other details would
>>> be helpful in diagnosing the problem?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> "Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this over a LAN? Is this over
>>>> the public internet? Is Remote Desktop enabled on the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the
>>>> W2K box to the XP Pro box, ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>>>>
>>>> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP Port 3389. Call using
>>>> the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also, is the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you
>>>> need to get into the "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the checkbox.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>>
>>>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of
>>>> us...
>>>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...
>>>>
>>>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on it. I'd like to use remote
>>>>>desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can I use RD without a VPN connection? Should I be
>>>>>using something other than RD? FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've
>>>>>followed the directions at
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>>>>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

This listing shows both an external and an internal IP address.

This implies that there are two network interfaces in this machine, with
software doing nat/routing between them. This may not be Microsoft's
Internet Connection Sharing, because that, in XP, uses 192.168.1.x for the
internal interface and isn't really modifiable.

You need to find out what software is doing the routing between the
interfaces, and how you open port 3389, TCP on the external interface in
that software.

If I'm mistaken, and this is ICS/ICF, then you would open the port by going
to the advanced tab in properties of TCP/IP on the external interface, and
clicking on the settings button.

"Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OFT%23hO6pEHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

> The client can NOT ping the host. I turned the firewall off to make sure
> it wasn't the problem. If I can connect with the firewall off, then I'll
> try to turn it on and still keep the RD connection. I am not certain that
> there are no other software firewalls involved. But I am certain that the
> host computer only has the WinXP SP2 firewall and that it is turned off. I
> got the following info from www.pcpitstop.com
> Bandwidth down: 100 Kbits/sec
> Bandwidth up: 346 Kbits/sec
> Average Ping: 153 ms
> Ping Loss: 0%
> TCP Receive Window: (default)
> External IP Address: 200.xxx.xx.xx
> Internal IP Address: 10.xx.xx.xxx
> Browser: MSIE 6.0; SV1
> IE current cache: 54 MB
> IE max cache: 80 MB
>
> I put Xs in for some of the numbers above for security reasons.
> http://www.whatismyip.com/ gives me that same IP address as the above
> external IP address.
> I'm pretty knowledgeable with PCs but not with networking. Thank you for
> your help.
>
> Daniel
>
> --------------------------------------------
> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
> news:OLiQIJ1pEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

>> Can the client ping the host machine?
>>
>> Running with no firewall at all is risky.
>>
>> Are you certain that there are no other software firewalls involved?
>> Have you checked that the IP address as seen by the host is the same IP
>> address as seen by going to :
>>
>> http://whatismyip.com/
>>
>> from the host--I'm trying to be sure that the ISP isn't running a
>> transparent proxy.
>>
>>
>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O70QMl0pEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

>>> The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public internet.
>>> The client is in New Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. The
>>> connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes as slow as 20 kbps with
>>> high ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is running
>>> WinXP Pro SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of the system
>>> control panel. The client is using the remote desktop client software
>>> and is typing in the IP of the host to try to connect. Offhand I don't
>>> remember the exact text of the error message but it was generic
>>> sounding, "unable to estable a connection". The host has the windows
>>> firewall turned off. The host is directly connected to the internet and
>>> is not using a router. What other details would be helpful in diagnosing
>>> the problem?
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> "Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this
>>>> over a LAN? Is this over the public internet? Is Remote Desktop enabled
>>>> on the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the W2K box to the XP Pro
>>>> box, ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>>>>
>>>> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
>>>> Port 3389. Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also,
>>>> is the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you need to get into the
>>>> "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the
>>>> checkbox.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>>
>>>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
>>>> mutual benefit of all of us...
>>>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>> rights...
>>>>
>>>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on
>>>>>it. I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can
>>>>>I use RD without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other
>>>>>than RD? FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4. I've
>>>>>followed the directions at
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>>>>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

The PC in Brazil (the host) is connected via radio internet connection. On
that computer in the Authentication tab of the local area connection
properties, "Enable IEEE 802.1x authentication for this network" is checked.
The EAP type is "Smart Card or other Certificate". Also, "Authenticate as
computer when computer information is available" is checked. I ready to toss
in the towel.

Another friend suggested Timbuktu Pro. Would that work in this situation?

Daniel
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:OWD7Dd6pEHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

> Yep your friend is correct. It appears the PC your trying to connect to is
> behind a firewall/NAT/router somewhere...
>
> How is the PC your trying to connect to in Brazil accessing the public
> internet? Ie. a broadband cable/DSL link or a dialup link or what?
>
> --
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
> benefit of all of us...
> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights...
>
> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uQ0WET6pEHA.376@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

>>A friend of mine said
>> "Reserved IP addresses for private networks
>> 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
>> 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
>> 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
>> Yes. That is non-routable.
>> Therefore you cannot be a server.
>> unless they forward all 3389 ports to you."
>>
>> Daniel
>> ----------------------------------------------
>> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
>> news:OLiQIJ1pEHA.3988@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

>>> Can the client ping the host machine?
>>>
>>> Running with no firewall at all is risky.
>>>
>>> Are you certain that there are no other software firewalls involved?
>>> Have you checked that the IP address as seen by the host is the same IP
>>> address as seen by going to :
>>>
>>> http://whatismyip.com/
>>>
>>> from the host--I'm trying to be sure that the ISP isn't running a
>>> transparent proxy.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O70QMl0pEHA.592@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> The client cannot connect to the host. This is over the public
>>>> internet. The client is in New Jersey. The host is in Rio de Janeiro,
>>>> Brazil. The connection in Brazil is very slow, sometimes as slow as 20
>>>> kbps with high ping times. The client is running Win2K SP4. The host is
>>>> running WinXP Pro SP2. Remote Desktop is enabled in the remote tab of
>>>> the system control panel. The client is using the remote desktop client
>>>> software and is typing in the IP of the host to try to connect. Offhand
>>>> I don't remember the exact text of the error message but it was generic
>>>> sounding, "unable to estable a connection". The host has the windows
>>>> firewall turned off. The host is directly connected to the internet and
>>>> is not using a router. What other details would be helpful in
>>>> diagnosing the problem?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> "Sooner Al" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:OKaBkSzpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>> What error or problem are you having? Be specific as possible. Is this
>>>>> over a LAN? Is this over the public internet? Is Remote Desktop
>>>>> enabled on the XP Pro box? How are you calling from the W2K box to the
>>>>> XP Pro box, ie. using the IP of the XP box or a host name?
>>>>>
>>>>> If the XP Pro box is behind a firewall/NAT/router you need to open TCP
>>>>> Port 3389. Call using the public IP of the firewall/NAT/router. Also,
>>>>> is the SP2 Windows Firewall enabled? If so, you need to get into the
>>>>> "Exceptions" window and configure Remote Desktop by checking the
>>>>> checkbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>>>>
>>>>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
>>>>> mutual benefit of all of us...
>>>>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>>>>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>>> rights...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Daniel Rascoe" <danielrascoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uWcXgOzpEHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I want to remotely control a computer that has Windows XP Pro SP2 on
>>>>>>it. I'd like to use remote desktop in the simpliest configuration. Can
>>>>>>I use RD without a VPN connection? Should I be using something other
>>>>>>than RD? FYI, the client computer is running windows 2000 pro SP4.
>>>>>>I've followed the directions at
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...moteintro.mspx
>>>>>> But I can't seem to get RD to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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