Sharing between Vista Laptop and XP Desktop/Printer
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>I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
> I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
>
> I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
> laptop
>
> All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> All 3 comps have internet access via the network
>
> On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
>
> At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
> wireless
> desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
> longer
> duplicate the setup.
>
> Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when
> it
> worked but I can no longer use it.
> This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
> hands
> on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "Pierre Martin" <PierreMartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2336937E-47E2-4B37-A3E7-8F822A477E8A@microsoft.com...> >I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.>
> > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
> >
> > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
> > laptop
> >
> > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
> >
> > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
> >
> > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
> > wireless
> > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
> > longer
> > duplicate the setup.
> >
> > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when
> > it
> > worked but I can no longer use it.
> > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
> > hands
> > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
> I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
>
> I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop
>
> All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> All 3 comps have internet access via the network
>
> On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
>
> At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
> desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
> duplicate the setup.
>
> Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
> worked but I can no longer use it.
> This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
> on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?
>
> --
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>
>
> "Pierre Martin" <PierreMartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2336937E-47E2-4B37-A3E7-8F822A477E8A@microsoft.com...> >I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.>
> > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
> >
> > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
> > laptop
> >
> > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
> >
> > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
> >
> > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
> > wireless
> > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
> > longer
> > duplicate the setup.
> >
> > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when
> > it
> > worked but I can no longer use it.
> > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
> > hands
> > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> Hi Pierre,
>
> From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
> Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
> work:
> First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
> Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.
>
> It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
> with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
> have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
> visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
> Vista to see the two XP machines.
>
> You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
> things to check on the Vista machine:
> ->The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
> case I think)
> ->In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
> Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
> (I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
> in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
> recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
> ->Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
> while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
> firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
> the firewalls on again.
> ->When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
> privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
> needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...
>
> There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
> helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
> Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
> problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
> appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
> the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
> (LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
> installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
> that.
>
> Other things I tried:
> Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
> protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
> enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
> Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
> command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
> the remote computer).
>
> Good luck,
> Bjarne
>
> "Pierre Martin" wrote:
>> > I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
> > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
> >
> > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop
> >
> > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
> >
> > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
> >
> > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
> > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
> > duplicate the setup.
> >
> > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
> > worked but I can no longer use it.
> > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
> > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> Just figured it out on the Vista Laptop.
> Pinged the desktop by typing Ping 192.168.1.100 which is the IP address I
> got off the router and I got 4 sent 4 answered so I guess I can ping the
> desktop.
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>>> Can you ping wireless desktop by IP?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>>
>>
>> "Pierre Martin" <PierreMartin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:2336937E-47E2-4B37-A3E7-8F822A477E8A@microsoft.com...>> >I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.>>
>> > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from
>> > a
>> > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
>> > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
>> > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
>> > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
>> >
>> > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
>> > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista
>> > laptop
>> >
>> > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
>> > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
>> >
>> > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and
>> > internet
>> >
>> > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the
>> > wireless
>> > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no
>> > longer
>> > duplicate the setup.
>> >
>> > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from
>> > when
>> > it
>> > worked but I can no longer use it.
>> > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my
>> > hands
>> > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
>> >
>> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> LLTD is activated
> Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
> Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
> I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
> the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
> I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop
>
> "Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:
>> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
> > Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
> > work:
> > First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
> > Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.
> >
> > It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
> > with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
> > have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
> > visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
> > Vista to see the two XP machines.
> >
> > You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
> > things to check on the Vista machine:
> > ->The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
> > case I think)
> > ->In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
> > Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
> > (I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
> > in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
> > recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
> > ->Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
> > while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
> > firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
> > the firewalls on again.
> > ->When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
> > privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
> > needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...
> >
> > There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
> > helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
> > Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
> > problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
> > appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
> > the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
> > (LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
> > installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
> > that.
> >
> > Other things I tried:
> > Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
> > protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
> > enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
> > Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
> > command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
> > the remote computer).
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Bjarne
> >
> > "Pierre Martin" wrote:
> >> > > I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
> > > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> > > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> > > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> > > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> > > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
> > >
> > > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> > > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop
> > >
> > > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> > > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
> > >
> > > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
> > >
> > > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
> > > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
> > > duplicate the setup.
> > >
> > > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
> > > worked but I can no longer use it.
> > > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
> > > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
> > >
> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> I can ping the XP desktop from the Vista laptop but not vice-versa. Got the
> IP addresses from the DHCP clients table on the router. Laptop is
> 192.168.1.104 and desktop is 192.168.1.100
> Can't find where to enable NetBIOS
>
> "Pierre Martin" wrote:
>> > LLTD is activated
> > Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
> > Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
> > I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
> > the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
> > I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop
> >
> > "Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:
> >> > > Hi Pierre,
> > >
> > > From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
> > > Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
> > > work:
> > > First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
> > > Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.
> > >
> > > It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
> > > with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
> > > have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
> > > visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
> > > Vista to see the two XP machines.
> > >
> > > You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
> > > things to check on the Vista machine:
> > > ->The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
> > > case I think)
> > > ->In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
> > > Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
> > > (I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
> > > in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
> > > recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
> > > ->Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
> > > while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
> > > firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
> > > the firewalls on again.
> > > ->When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
> > > privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
> > > needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...
> > >
> > > There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
> > > helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
> > > Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
> > > problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
> > > appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
> > > the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
> > > (LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
> > > installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Other things I tried:
> > > Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
> > > protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
> > > enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
> > > Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
> > > command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
> > > the remote computer).
> > >
> > > Good luck,
> > > Bjarne
> > >
> > > "Pierre Martin" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
> > > > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> > > > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> > > > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> > > > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> > > > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
> > > >
> > > > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> > > > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop
> > > >
> > > > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> > > > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
> > > >
> > > > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
> > > >
> > > > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
> > > > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
> > > > duplicate the setup.
> > > >
> > > > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
> > > > worked but I can no longer use it.
> > > > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
> > > > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be much appreciated.
> LLTD is activated
> Printer and file sharing is on for the desktop
> Can't find Netbios as an option on the wireless adaptors
> I think the problem is with the Vista laptop since I can see and print to
> the wireless desktop from the wired desktop running XP.
> I can also ping the wireless desktop/printer from the laptop
>
> "Bjarne Hansen /freya" wrote:
>> > Hi Pierre,
> >
> > From my own efforts in getting my printer (hosted on an XP box) shared to a
> > Vista laptop, I learned two key ingredients seemed to be needed for it to
> > work:
> > First, networking & sharing needed to function between the computers.
> > Second, Vista needed to have the proper driver loaded for the printer.
> >
> > It was this second issue that I (and I believe Linda830) were struggling
> > with (see her thread started 29 Dec for details). In your case, since you did
> > have the printing working at one time and you still have the ip4200 icon
> > visible on the laptop, it sounds to me like the problem lies with getting
> > Vista to see the two XP machines.
> >
> > You've said the computers have the same Workgroup name. Here's some other
> > things to check on the Vista machine:
> > ->The Network Location type is "Private" (you implied this is already the
> > case I think)
> > ->In the Sharing And Discovery Section - File Sharing is ON, Public Folder
> > Sharing is ON. You could also try to see if you can turn ON Printer Sharing
> > (I couldn't, since there was no local printer attached to the Vista box, but
> > in your case perhaps the fact that you did at one time have a printer
> > recognized might mean Vista will let you turn it ON)
> > ->Windows Firewall (or other firewall) is set to allow sharing. You may,
> > while setting up, disconnect yourself from the internet and then turn off all
> > firewalls, just to simplify things. Once you get printing working, then turn
> > the firewalls on again.
> > ->When setting up I logged in as a user with the same name and with Admin
> > privileges on both computers, but I have since noticed that this is not
> > needed anymore to print. Perhaps it never was...
> >
> > There is a troubleshooting guide on Microsoft's website that might be
> > helpful - go to Vista's Solution Center and under the heading Home
> > Networking, click on "Troubleshooting network and Internet connection
> > problems". On the next page, select "Troubleshoot problems with computers not
> > appearing on the network map", then "A computer or device does not appear on
> > the network map." The discussion about the Link Layer Topology Discovery
> > (LLTD) may be relevant to you - there is a download for XP computers that
> > installs LLTD to allow Vista computers to see the XP machine. I installed
> > that.
> >
> > Other things I tried:
> > Ensure NetBIOS is enabled for the network cards on all the machines. This
> > protocol seems to be used in locating computers on the local network. Until I
> > enabled it, I couldn't see the shared computers in Windows Explorer's Network
> > Neighborhood, but I could reach them with a 'ping 192.168.1.100' at the
> > command prompt (replace 192.168.1.100 with whatever IP address is assigned to
> > the remote computer).
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Bjarne
> >
> > "Pierre Martin" wrote:
> >> > > I have similar problem as Linda830 but a bit more basic.
> > > I have a printer on a wireless XPHome Desktop and I want to print from a
> > > Vista Home Basic Laptop.Configuration is as follows;
> > > XPHome desktop wired to Linksys Wireless router
> > > Wireless XPHome desktop with Canon ip4200 printer
> > > Wireless Vista Home Basic laptop
> > >
> > > I can see the wireless desktop and printer from the wired desktop
> > > I want to but can't see the wireless desktop and printer from the Vista laptop
> > >
> > > All 3 comps have same workgroup name
> > > All 3 comps have internet access via the network
> > >
> > > On the Vista laptop all I can see is the private network name and internet
> > >
> > > At one point during my setup of the new laptop, I had access to the wireless
> > > desktop and printer and printed out a page. For some reason I can no longer
> > > duplicate the setup.
> > >
> > > Right now the ip4200 printer is listed in the laptop's printers from when it
> > > worked but I can no longer use it.
> > > This problem is baffling me. I've been trying everything I can get my hands
> > > on. It's a preloaded laptop so I can't ask Microsoft about it.
> > >
> > > Any help would be much appreciated.
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