Shields up network bondage in WinXP

Posted: 09-21-2003, 07:10 PM
Hi. I am trying to follow the instructions on how to unlink bad
protocols in WinXP. I got as far as installing the loopback adapter,
but the instructions are out of date. How do I find instructions that
are correct for WinXP Pro SP 1?

Thanks,
Rob Solomon
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Kent W. England [MVP]
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Re: Shields up network bondage in WinXP
Posted: 09-21-2003, 08:03 PM
If you want help here, you'll have to ask a more generic question about
protocols. We don't provide technical support to Steve Gibson's web
site, he provides his own.

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"Robert Solomon" <rob@drrob1.com> wrote in message
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> Hi. I am trying to follow the instructions on how to unlink bad
> protocols in WinXP. I got as far as installing the loopback adapter,
> but the instructions are out of date. How do I find instructions that
> are correct for WinXP Pro SP 1?
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Re: Shields up network bondage in WinXP
Posted: 09-21-2003, 10:43 PM
In article <#gcNqnHgDHA.3248@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, kwe@mvps.org says...
> If you want help here, you'll have to ask a more generic question about
> protocols. We don't provide technical support to Steve Gibson's web
> site, he provides his own.
ok. I'll try again.

How do I unbind tcp/ip file and printer sharing from the ethernet
adapter, and use only the netbeui protocol for file and printer sharing.

Also, how do I close the 137, 138 and 139 ports of the NetBIOS. That
is, how can I unbind the WINS client from my ethernet adapter and leave
it bound to my loopback adapter?

Thanks again,
Rob
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Re: Shields up network bondage in WinXP
Posted: 09-24-2003, 03:56 AM
On the Advanced TCP/IP panel, select "Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP". If
you have "File and printer sharing" installed, it will use only NetBEUI,
if NetBEUI is installed.

Closing those NetBIOS ports is essentially the same as disabling it. I
expect a personal firewall is the only way to block ports on an
interface without disabling NetBIOS.

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"Robert Solomon" <rob@drrob1.com> wrote in message
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> In article <#gcNqnHgDHA.3248@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl>, kwe@mvps.org
says...
> > If you want help here, you'll have to ask a more generic question
about
> > protocols. We don't provide technical support to Steve Gibson's web
> > site, he provides his own.
>
> ok. I'll try again.
>
> How do I unbind tcp/ip file and printer sharing from the ethernet
> adapter, and use only the netbeui protocol for file and printer
sharing.
>
> Also, how do I close the 137, 138 and 139 ports of the NetBIOS. That
> is, how can I unbind the WINS client from my ethernet adapter and
leave
> it bound to my loopback adapter?
>
> Thanks again,
> Rob
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Re: Shields up network bondage in WinXP
Posted: 09-30-2003, 01:49 AM


Kent W. England [MVP] wrote:
> On the Advanced TCP/IP panel, select "Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP". If
> you have "File and printer sharing" installed, it will use only NetBEUI,
> if NetBEUI is installed.
>
> Closing those NetBIOS ports is essentially the same as disabling it. I
> expect a personal firewall is the only way to block ports on an
> interface without disabling NetBIOS.
>
Does it follow that if NetBEUI is not installed, and one is using TCP/IP
for the LAN, then NetBIOS must be left connected to TCP/IP in order to
enable file and printer sharing?

I had had NetBEUI installed, using it for the LAN (I am running Win XP
Pro on two computers, and Win 98 on a third networked computer), but the
dual protocols seemed to cause problems. I uninstalled the NetBEUI and
am not running only TCP/IP. I rely on the hardware firewall in my DSL
router, and the Norton Internet Security and each of the computers for
protection.
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Re: Shields up network bondage in WinXP
Posted: 09-30-2003, 05:02 AM
Not necessarily. An all-XP network doesn't need NetBIOS, it can use
SMB-over-TCP (port 445) instead, for file and printer sharing.

However, for backward compatibility, you need NetBIOS for file and
printer sharing. It's best to run it over one protocol, either TCP/IP,
NetBEUI, or IPX.

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"OliverS" <OES_removespam_test@ameritech.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Kent W. England [MVP] wrote:
> > On the Advanced TCP/IP panel, select "Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP".
If
> > you have "File and printer sharing" installed, it will use only
NetBEUI,
> > if NetBEUI is installed.
> >
> > Closing those NetBIOS ports is essentially the same as disabling it.
I
> > expect a personal firewall is the only way to block ports on an
> > interface without disabling NetBIOS.
> >
>
> Does it follow that if NetBEUI is not installed, and one is using
TCP/IP
> for the LAN, then NetBIOS must be left connected to TCP/IP in order to
> enable file and printer sharing?
>
> I had had NetBEUI installed, using it for the LAN (I am running Win XP
> Pro on two computers, and Win 98 on a third networked computer), but
the
> dual protocols seemed to cause problems. I uninstalled the NetBEUI
and
> am not running only TCP/IP. I rely on the hardware firewall in my DSL
> router, and the Norton Internet Security and each of the computers for
> protection.
> --
> Oliver E. Seikel
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> Running:
> Netscape 7, IE 6 and Netscape 4.79
>
> On:
> Dell Dimension 4100, Pentium III 933 mHz BIOS A10/9/17/01, 256 mB/133
RAM
> 9+ GB Free on Hard Drive; Modem=Conexant HCF V90 56K RTAD Speaker
Phone
> PCI Video=NVIDIAGeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro
> OS=Win XP Pro v 5.1.2600
> LPT=HP 895 Cse Inkjet Printer;USB1=Epson Perfection 1240U Scanner;
> USB2=Various I/O
> NIC=3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI(3C905C-TX);LAN=TCP/IP on SMC 5 Port
10/100
> Switch and Speedstream 5861 DSL Router connected to SBC/Ameritech DSL
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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