Shrinking a partition...

Posted: 02-22-2008, 08:58 PM
Looking for advice,

I have tried to shrink a partition on my HDD but have only been able to
shrink it by 415mb, this is not much when you consider that I have 1Tb to
play with!!!

I have two 500gig HD's using raid 0 striped (think that's the correct way to
describe it), and wish to add partitions so I can keep my operating system,
devices and game separate.

I already have a "Recovery" partition (15gig) which I am now using to hold
my swap file as I thought this may be causing an issue (didn't help). The
help menu told me about "Shadows" but could not find how to delete or even if
they were causing an issue, or even if I was using them, when trying to
shrink the current partition.

Any help would be appreciated on how to resolve this or even if there is a
program to make life really easy.


Many thanks


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Rick Rogers
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Re: Shrinking a partition...
Posted: 02-22-2008, 09:11 PM
Hi,

If there is a locked, immovable file on the drive near the end of the
volume, then Vista's drive tool will not be able to shrink the volume beyond
that point. To do so you need to use a third party tool that works outside
of Vista such as Acronis' Disk Director or Terabyteunlimited's BootIT NG.

A RAID0 stripe, by the way, is when the total volume is the sum of two
physical drives, and the data stream is split between them. The downside to
this configuration is that if one drive has a sudden failure, all data on
both is lost. Make sure you are using a good back solution that involves
saving to alternate media, and be prepared for the eventual failure -
perhaps sudden - of one the drives.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"RedZedSmee" <RedZedSmee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Looking for advice,
>
> I have tried to shrink a partition on my HDD but have only been able to
> shrink it by 415mb, this is not much when you consider that I have 1Tb to
> play with!!!
>
> I have two 500gig HD's using raid 0 striped (think that's the correct way
> to
> describe it), and wish to add partitions so I can keep my operating
> system,
> devices and game separate.
>
> I already have a "Recovery" partition (15gig) which I am now using to hold
> my swap file as I thought this may be causing an issue (didn't help). The
> help menu told me about "Shadows" but could not find how to delete or even
> if
> they were causing an issue, or even if I was using them, when trying to
> shrink the current partition.
>
> Any help would be appreciated on how to resolve this or even if there is a
> program to make life really easy.
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>
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DL
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Re: Shrinking a partition...
Posted: 02-23-2008, 12:00 AM
If you have a stripe set there is no advantage in seperate partitions for
other apps.
Theres not much advantage in a mirror set iether

"RedZedSmee" <RedZedSmee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:830F5DB1-0670-4F81-9DCB-50D59358D5D3@microsoft.com...
> Looking for advice,
>
> I have tried to shrink a partition on my HDD but have only been able to
> shrink it by 415mb, this is not much when you consider that I have 1Tb to
> play with!!!
>
> I have two 500gig HD's using raid 0 striped (think that's the correct way
> to
> describe it), and wish to add partitions so I can keep my operating
> system,
> devices and game separate.
>
> I already have a "Recovery" partition (15gig) which I am now using to hold
> my swap file as I thought this may be causing an issue (didn't help). The
> help menu told me about "Shadows" but could not find how to delete or even
> if
> they were causing an issue, or even if I was using them, when trying to
> shrink the current partition.
>
> Any help would be appreciated on how to resolve this or even if there is a
> program to make life really easy.
>
>
> Many thanks
>
>

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RedZedSmee
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Re: Shrinking a partition...
Posted: 02-23-2008, 10:38 PM
I appreciate the advise, so thanks for that. Is there a particular setup that
you would recommended for the HDD considering the drawbacks of their current
configuration. The system came set up this way primarily for performance. And
would I really notice a drop in performance if I changed it?





"Rick Rogers" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If there is a locked, immovable file on the drive near the end of the
> volume, then Vista's drive tool will not be able to shrink the volume beyond
> that point. To do so you need to use a third party tool that works outside
> of Vista such as Acronis' Disk Director or Terabyteunlimited's BootIT NG.
>
> A RAID0 stripe, by the way, is when the total volume is the sum of two
> physical drives, and the data stream is split between them. The downside to
> this configuration is that if one drive has a sudden failure, all data on
> both is lost. Make sure you are using a good back solution that involves
> saving to alternate media, and be prepared for the eventual failure -
> perhaps sudden - of one the drives.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "RedZedSmee" <RedZedSmee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:830F5DB1-0670-4F81-9DCB-50D59358D5D3@microsoft.com...
> > Looking for advice,
> >
> > I have tried to shrink a partition on my HDD but have only been able to
> > shrink it by 415mb, this is not much when you consider that I have 1Tb to
> > play with!!!
> >
> > I have two 500gig HD's using raid 0 striped (think that's the correct way
> > to
> > describe it), and wish to add partitions so I can keep my operating
> > system,
> > devices and game separate.
> >
> > I already have a "Recovery" partition (15gig) which I am now using to hold
> > my swap file as I thought this may be causing an issue (didn't help). The
> > help menu told me about "Shadows" but could not find how to delete or even
> > if
> > they were causing an issue, or even if I was using them, when trying to
> > shrink the current partition.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated on how to resolve this or even if there is a
> > program to make life really easy.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Shrinking a partition...
Posted: 02-24-2008, 11:19 AM
Hi,

Performance-wise, a RAID0 will maximize the write speed, but I don't
generally see that much improvement for the average user. Better to just
span disks (JBOD) if you need all the space. If you can tolerate half the
space, use RAID1 and mirror to guard against loss. Personally, if you want
RAID, I'd suggest using RAID5 with a 3rd disk for fault tolerance. With that
sort of solution, if a disk crashes, the data on it can be rebuilt from the
remaining drives. This has to be supported by the hardware, as it cannot be
done by a software solution. See the details here:
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/perf/...eLevel5-c.html

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"RedZedSmee" <RedZedSmee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:02C1FD64-3036-418C-A6B3-EA15759615B9@microsoft.com...
>I appreciate the advise, so thanks for that. Is there a particular setup
>that
> you would recommended for the HDD considering the drawbacks of their
> current
> configuration. The system came set up this way primarily for performance.
> And
> would I really notice a drop in performance if I changed it?
>
>
>
>
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If there is a locked, immovable file on the drive near the end of the
>> volume, then Vista's drive tool will not be able to shrink the volume
>> beyond
>> that point. To do so you need to use a third party tool that works
>> outside
>> of Vista such as Acronis' Disk Director or Terabyteunlimited's BootIT NG.
>>
>> A RAID0 stripe, by the way, is when the total volume is the sum of two
>> physical drives, and the data stream is split between them. The downside
>> to
>> this configuration is that if one drive has a sudden failure, all data on
>> both is lost. Make sure you are using a good back solution that involves
>> saving to alternate media, and be prepared for the eventual failure -
>> perhaps sudden - of one the drives.
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>
>> "RedZedSmee" <RedZedSmee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:830F5DB1-0670-4F81-9DCB-50D59358D5D3@microsoft.com...
>> > Looking for advice,
>> >
>> > I have tried to shrink a partition on my HDD but have only been able to
>> > shrink it by 415mb, this is not much when you consider that I have 1Tb
>> > to
>> > play with!!!
>> >
>> > I have two 500gig HD's using raid 0 striped (think that's the correct
>> > way
>> > to
>> > describe it), and wish to add partitions so I can keep my operating
>> > system,
>> > devices and game separate.
>> >
>> > I already have a "Recovery" partition (15gig) which I am now using to
>> > hold
>> > my swap file as I thought this may be causing an issue (didn't help).
>> > The
>> > help menu told me about "Shadows" but could not find how to delete or
>> > even
>> > if
>> > they were causing an issue, or even if I was using them, when trying to
>> > shrink the current partition.
>> >
>> > Any help would be appreciated on how to resolve this or even if there
>> > is a
>> > program to make life really easy.
>> >
>> >
>> > Many thanks
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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