sorting out Music files

Posted: 07-25-2004, 01:19 PM
Am a very Old New User to most of this stuff
But here's my question :
I'm a classical Music addict ..Have a fairly Large
collection almost 4 G/B ( it is to me anyway)...in
buying and assembling this Music, I've gotten

MPEG-4 Audio File (Protected),......Wave with Win Mp
Icons .....................and straight MP3's ............

I want to make them all unifom MP3's and put them on Cd's
to save space on the Hard Drive.

I realise its all messy to explain .But maybe there's
some device/software that will enable me to to do ALL of
the above .
OR Is it being too ambitious
Have JUST seen on here mention of
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/.Looks expensive tho !!!

My Mail address is <Kered44@hotmail>if you care to help
Thanks
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Ionizer
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Re: sorting out Music files
Posted: 07-25-2004, 02:06 PM
"derek" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Am a very Old New User to most of this stuff
> But here's my question :
> I'm a classical Music addict ..Have a fairly Large
> collection almost 4 G/B ( it is to me anyway)...in
> buying and assembling this Music, I've gotten
>
> MPEG-4 Audio File (Protected),......Wave with Win Mp
> Icons .....................and straight MP3's ............
>
> I want to make them all unifom MP3's and put them on Cd's
> to save space on the Hard Drive.
>
> I realise its all messy to explain .But maybe there's
> some device/software that will enable me to to do ALL of
> the above .
> OR Is it being too ambitious
> Have JUST seen on here mention of
> http://www.dbpoweramp.com/.Looks expensive tho !!!
>
dBopwerAMP Music Converter is absolutely FREE and will do the format
conversions you want: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm Keep in mind that
mp3 is a lossy format, and the more you compress your wav files, the lower
the fidelity. Convert your classical music wav files to *high* bitrate
mp3 files- this makes them a bit larger, but you'll appreciate the audio
quality.

Regards,
Ian.


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Re: sorting out Music files
Posted: 07-30-2004, 06:35 PM
Dear Ioniser ;-)))))))))))) heck ....Just spotted it ......Ian .......Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;-)))))

Have only just FOUND the help (ydBpowerAMP Music Converter) you very kindly gave IE ; Sorting out my Classics.Am still wading thru the instructions ;-)) Tho '
bit puzzled with " lossy " and Wav ?
but I'll get a grasp of it soon I hope .......Hope to I'll be able to Standardise once and for all.
A very genuine and appreciative Thank you Sir ;-)))

Derek

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Extremely mature UK Gent


"Ionizer" wrote:
> "derek" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:056201c47241$af66b100$3501280a@phx.gbl...
> > Am a very Old New User to most of this stuff
> > But here's my question :
> > I'm a classical Music addict ..Have a fairly Large
> > collection almost 4 G/B ( it is to me anyway)...in
> > buying and assembling this Music, I've gotten
> >
> > MPEG-4 Audio File (Protected),......Wave with Win Mp
> > Icons .....................and straight MP3's ............
> >
> > I want to make them all unifom MP3's and put them on Cd's
> > to save space on the Hard Drive.
> >
> > I realise its all messy to explain .But maybe there's
> > some device/software that will enable me to to do ALL of
> > the above .
> > OR Is it being too ambitious
> > Have JUST seen on here mention of
> > http://www.dbpoweramp.com/.Looks expensive tho !!!
> >
>
> dBopwerAMP Music Converter is absolutely FREE and will do the format
> conversions you want: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm Keep in mind that
> mp3 is a lossy format, and the more you compress your wav files, the lower
> the fidelity. Convert your classical music wav files to *high* bitrate
> mp3 files- this makes them a bit larger, but you'll appreciate the audio
> quality.
>
> Regards,
> Ian.
>
>
>
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Re: sorting out Music files
Posted: 07-30-2004, 07:50 PM
"Sirder" <Me @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear Ioniser ;-)))))))))))) heck ....Just spotted it ......Ian
........Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;-)))))
>
> Have only just FOUND the help (ydBpowerAMP Music Converter) you very
kindly gave IE ; Sorting out my Classics.Am still wading thru the
instructions ;-)) Tho '
> bit puzzled with " lossy " and Wav ?
> but I'll get a grasp of it soon I hope .......Hope to I'll be able to
Standardise once and for all.
> A very genuine and appreciative Thank you Sir ;-)))
>
> Derek
>
> --
> Extremely mature UK Gent
Hey, Derek!

Glad you tracked down my reply and found the freeware. Regarding the
difference between the "lossy" nature of mp3 files vs. wav files: Wav
files contain all of the audio fidelity of the original CD music tracks
you ripped them from. Wav files are essentially exact duplicates of the
original tracks, with all of the fidelity, etc., and as a result these
files are quite large when compared with an mp3 version of the same track.
When you compress (convert) a wav file to mp3, some data is removed in
order to make the file smaller- the extreme high and low frequencies which
are theoretically beyond human hearing at first; but when you compress to
lower-bitrate files, even more data is removed- and at some point you CAN
hear the difference. So it's a "lossy" format because data is eliminated
during the compression process.

Let your own hearing be your guide. I defy anyone to tell the difference
between a wav file and a 320kbps mp3 file of the same piece of music for
instance. At 192kbps, some people might claim to be able to spot some
subtle differences. Once you compress below 128kbps many listeners *will*
spot an audible difference.

So be careful with that classical music of yours. If you convert a wav
file to mp3, delete the original wav file, and THEN decide that the mp3
doesn't sound good enough, it's too late- that fidelity is lost forever.
Converting a crappy-sounding 96kbps mp3 file into a 320kbps file will only
result in a larger file which still sounds crappy.

Regards,
Ian.
(An extremely immature Canadian Gent.)


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Re: sorting out Music files
Posted: 07-31-2004, 02:27 AM
Oh Yes .That last line .I JUST lurrrve it ;-)))) Thanks Ian ;-)))))
"
An extremely immature Canadian Gent."
Yes and that said am going to C7Paste that and absorb EVERY word

As they say nowadayze .'You're the Maa...an' ;-)))
Thanks Ian
Derek (kered44@hotmail.com)


"Ionizer" wrote:
> "Sirder" <Me @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5D650CB1-DA11-47E9-811C-1F6B477ABE70@microsoft.com...
> > Dear Ioniser ;-)))))))))))) heck ....Just spotted it ......Ian
> ........Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;-)))))
> >
> > Have only just FOUND the help (ydBpowerAMP Music Converter) you very
> kindly gave IE ; Sorting out my Classics.Am still wading thru the
> instructions ;-)) Tho '
> > bit puzzled with " lossy " and Wav ?
> > but I'll get a grasp of it soon I hope .......Hope to I'll be able to
> Standardise once and for all.
> > A very genuine and appreciative Thank you Sir ;-)))
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > --
> > Extremely mature UK Gent
>
> Hey, Derek!
>
> Glad you tracked down my reply and found the freeware. Regarding the
> difference between the "lossy" nature of mp3 files vs. wav files: Wav
> files contain all of the audio fidelity of the original CD music tracks
> you ripped them from. Wav files are essentially exact duplicates of the
> original tracks, with all of the fidelity, etc., and as a result these
> files are quite large when compared with an mp3 version of the same track.
> When you compress (convert) a wav file to mp3, some data is removed in
> order to make the file smaller- the extreme high and low frequencies which
> are theoretically beyond human hearing at first; but when you compress to
> lower-bitrate files, even more data is removed- and at some point you CAN
> hear the difference. So it's a "lossy" format because data is eliminated
> during the compression process.
>
> Let your own hearing be your guide. I defy anyone to tell the difference
> between a wav file and a 320kbps mp3 file of the same piece of music for
> instance. At 192kbps, some people might claim to be able to spot some
> subtle differences. Once you compress below 128kbps many listeners *will*
> spot an audible difference.
>
> So be careful with that classical music of yours. If you convert a wav
> file to mp3, delete the original wav file, and THEN decide that the mp3
> doesn't sound good enough, it's too late- that fidelity is lost forever.
> Converting a crappy-sounding 96kbps mp3 file into a 320kbps file will only
> result in a larger file which still sounds crappy.
>
> Regards,
> Ian.
> (An extremely immature Canadian Gent.)
>
>
>
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Re: sorting out Music files
Posted: 07-31-2004, 02:29 AM
Oh Yes .That last line .I JUST lurrrve it ;-)))) Thanks Ian ;-)))))
"An extremely immature Canadian Gent." ;-)))))
Yes .....and that said am going to C & Paste that and absorb EVERY word

As they say nowadayze .You're the Maaan ;-)))
Thanks Ian
Derek
--
Extremely mature UK Gent


"Ionizer" wrote:
> "Sirder" <Me @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5D650CB1-DA11-47E9-811C-1F6B477ABE70@microsoft.com...
> > Dear Ioniser ;-)))))))))))) heck ....Just spotted it ......Ian
> ........Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ;-)))))
> >
> > Have only just FOUND the help (ydBpowerAMP Music Converter) you very
> kindly gave IE ; Sorting out my Classics.Am still wading thru the
> instructions ;-)) Tho '
> > bit puzzled with " lossy " and Wav ?
> > but I'll get a grasp of it soon I hope .......Hope to I'll be able to
> Standardise once and for all.
> > A very genuine and appreciative Thank you Sir ;-)))
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > --
> > Extremely mature UK Gent
>
> Hey, Derek!
>
> Glad you tracked down my reply and found the freeware. Regarding the
> difference between the "lossy" nature of mp3 files vs. wav files: Wav
> files contain all of the audio fidelity of the original CD music tracks
> you ripped them from. Wav files are essentially exact duplicates of the
> original tracks, with all of the fidelity, etc., and as a result these
> files are quite large when compared with an mp3 version of the same track.
> When you compress (convert) a wav file to mp3, some data is removed in
> order to make the file smaller- the extreme high and low frequencies which
> are theoretically beyond human hearing at first; but when you compress to
> lower-bitrate files, even more data is removed- and at some point you CAN
> hear the difference. So it's a "lossy" format because data is eliminated
> during the compression process.
>
> Let your own hearing be your guide. I defy anyone to tell the difference
> between a wav file and a 320kbps mp3 file of the same piece of music for
> instance. At 192kbps, some people might claim to be able to spot some
> subtle differences. Once you compress below 128kbps many listeners *will*
> spot an audible difference.
>
> So be careful with that classical music of yours. If you convert a wav
> file to mp3, delete the original wav file, and THEN decide that the mp3
> doesn't sound good enough, it's too late- that fidelity is lost forever.
> Converting a crappy-sounding 96kbps mp3 file into a 320kbps file will only
> result in a larger file which still sounds crappy.
>
> Regards,
> Ian.
> (An extremely immature Canadian Gent.)
>
>
>
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Re: sorting out Music files
Posted: 08-11-2004, 01:41 PM

Paging Mr Ioniser, ..................Paging Mr Ioniser, ;-))))))))))))

yes , tiz I again, the elderly mature chap from the UK, who doesn't know his
mpg from his wav's ;-)))
if I might to impose further, would appreciate your assistance.......or
anyone e but else's if they'd be so kind

You'll recollect a considerable amount of music was to be shifted from the
hard drive to CD in a WIN XP environment.
Uppermost in my mind is your recommendation to acquire Wave files at the
highest bit rate possible.
Using DBPoweramp to make settings I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
Question: eight bit, 16-bit [CD] or bits at source
?.................. my guess.... would be 16 ???
Question : and presumably I would select 44100Hz (CD)

Trouble is , with DB poweramp.......... I can only come that one piece of
music at a time, is that correct, since I have quite a number of pieces to
convert.

I am further , bewildered, by the format of Apple ITunes, I got older on a
piece of software name of a Fair Keys, but I am damned if I can open the nine
files , which as the name implies , will open up the Apple format ..........
so that I can put them on the CD.

I have no doubt at all that I have explained all this very badly , in which
case I apologize in advance. If there are any other facts that are required
or explanations . my address is, Kered 44@Hotmail.com,

Thank you gentlemen
PS am hoping to Use Nero to Write these Files

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