Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt

Posted: 06-28-2007, 04:12 AM
Hello.

The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a person,
not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).

Here's what's happening:
I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is a
control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account, but I
do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
(my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own password
to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges, it
just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the Admin
changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop
UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for
now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here.
Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time
Reply With Quote

Responses to "Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt"

Kevin Hicks
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-28-2007, 04:14 AM
Hello.

The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a person,
not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).

Here's what's happening:
I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is a
control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account, but I
do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
(my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own password
to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges, it
just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the Admin
changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop
UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for
now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here.
Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Reply With Quote
Jimmy Brush
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-28-2007, 10:36 PM
Kevin Hicks wrote:
> Hello.
>
> The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a person,
> not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).
>
> Here's what's happening:
> I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is a
> control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account, but I
> do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
> myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
> (my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
> that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
> priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
> priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own password
> to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges, it
> just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
> password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
> another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the Admin
> changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop
> UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for
> now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here.
> Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you for your time.
Hello,

Regedit should not be prompting if you are a standard user.

In any case, this should help you out:

Using regedit, browse to:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers

Create 2 string values in this folder, named:

c:\windows\regedit.exe

and

c:\windows\system32\regedt32.exe

double-click on each of these items, and set their value to:

RUNASINVOKER


--
-JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
Reply With Quote
Rock
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-29-2007, 12:24 AM
"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:us9C8xcuHHA.4512@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Kevin Hicks wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a
>> person, not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).
>>
>> Here's what's happening:
>> I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is
>> a control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account,
>> but I do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors
>> to give myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a
>> hidden user (my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative
>> priviledges that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set
>> myself special priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin
>> 'elevated' priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter
>> my own password to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me
>> administrative priviledges, it just opens the thing). Normally, standard
>> users don't need to type their password with UAC to open it, but I do
>> (and i used to not to need it), and another standard user doesn't and can
>> open it without a problem. If the Admin changes the password on the
>> computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop UAC for asking me my
>> password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for now, so that's
>> not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here. Not most
>> people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you for your time.
>
> Hello,
>
> Regedit should not be prompting if you are a standard user.
>
> In any case, this should help you out:
>
> Using regedit, browse to:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
>
> Create 2 string values in this folder, named:
>
> c:\windows\regedit.exe
>
> and
>
> c:\windows\system32\regedt32.exe
>
> double-click on each of these items, and set their value to:
>
> RUNASINVOKER

I sure was wrong on that. I was going from memory. Went back into the
standard user account and sure enough regedit ran without requesting
elevation. Sorry to the OP.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Reply With Quote
Jimmy Brush
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-30-2007, 08:19 AM
> I sure was wrong on that. I was going from memory. Went back into the
> standard user account and sure enough regedit ran without requesting
> elevation. Sorry to the OP.
>
You wouldn't think whether the system shows a prompt or not would be so
difficult, but the rules are actually fairly complex.

--
-JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
Reply With Quote
Rock
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-30-2007, 11:13 PM
"Jimmy Brush" <jb@mvps.org> wrote
>> I sure was wrong on that. I was going from memory. Went back into the
>> standard user account and sure enough regedit ran without requesting
>> elevation. Sorry to the OP.
>>
>
> You wouldn't think whether the system shows a prompt or not would be so
> difficult, but the rules are actually fairly complex.
Yep, still haven't figured out all aspects of this. I'm guessing regedit is
allowed in a standard user account but one can only edit user settings.
When invoking regedit from an admin account it is assumed you would want
access to all settings hence the need for elevation?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Reply With Quote
Kevin Hicks
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-29-2007, 01:34 AM
Wow. Thank you so much for this. This fixed my problem.

"Jimmy Brush" wrote:
> Kevin Hicks wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a person,
> > not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).
> >
> > Here's what's happening:
> > I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is a
> > control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account, but I
> > do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
> > myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
> > (my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
> > that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
> > priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
> > priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own password
> > to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges, it
> > just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
> > password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
> > another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the Admin
> > changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop
> > UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for
> > now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here.
> > Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you for your time.
>
> Hello,
>
> Regedit should not be prompting if you are a standard user.
>
> In any case, this should help you out:
>
> Using regedit, browse to:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers
>
> Create 2 string values in this folder, named:
>
> c:\windows\regedit.exe
>
> and
>
> c:\windows\system32\regedt32.exe
>
> double-click on each of these items, and set their value to:
>
> RUNASINVOKER
>
>
> --
> -JB
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
> Windows Vista Support FAQ - http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>
Reply With Quote
Rock
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-28-2007, 09:04 AM
"Kevin Hicks" wrote
> Hello.
>
> The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a
> person,
> not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).
>
> Here's what's happening:
> I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is
> a
> control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account,
> but I
> do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
> myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
> (my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
> that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
> priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
> priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own
> password
> to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges,
> it
> just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
> password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
> another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the
> Admin
> changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to
> stop
> UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password
> for
> now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me
> here.
> Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly
> appreciated.
> Thank you for your time
Regedit needs admin privileges. If it's started from an account that has
admin privileges then the user has to give consent, if from a standard user
account credentials are required.

Who owns the computer?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Reply With Quote
Bruce Chambers
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-29-2007, 01:46 AM
Kevin Hicks wrote:
> Hello.
>
> The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a person,
> not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).
>
> Here's what's happening:
> I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is a
> control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account, but I
> do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
> myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
> (my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
> that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
> priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
> priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own password
> to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges, it
> just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
> password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
> another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the Admin
> changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop
> UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for
> now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here.
> Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you for your time

Ask your parents for assistance.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
Reply With Quote
Kevin Hicks
Guest
Posts: n/a
 
Re: Standard user needs regedit UAC prompt
Posted: 06-29-2007, 02:34 AM
oh dear God, no.

besides, im the smartest computer person in the house. the Admin is a
complete dummy and a control freak if i didn't metion.

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:
> Kevin Hicks wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > The term 'Admin' is the main administrator on the computer (run by a person,
> > not the actual 'Administrator' hidden account).
> >
> > Here's what's happening:
> > I am NOT an administrator on my family's computer. The Admin, however, is a
> > control freak. I am not supposed to know my own password to my account, but I
> > do anyway and the Admin doesn't know that. I have opened backdoors to give
> > myself administrative priviledges if need be. I have created a hidden user
> > (my Admin is an idiot with computers) that has administrative priviledges
> > that is covered up by a value in the registry. I have set myself special
> > priviledges on the key to edit values in it without havin 'elevated'
> > priviledges. But now the entire application wants me to enter my own password
> > to do anything to it (and it doesn't give me administrative priviledges, it
> > just opens the thing). Normally, standard users don't need to type their
> > password with UAC to open it, but I do (and i used to not to need it), and
> > another standard user doesn't and can open it without a problem. If the Admin
> > changes the password on the computer, I am SCREWED. Is there any way to stop
> > UAC for asking me my password with regedit? I do know the Admin password for
> > now, so that's not a problem. I really need a smart feller to help me here.
> > Not most people know how to fix this. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
> > Thank you for your time
>
>
> Ask your parents for assistance.
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
>
Reply With Quote
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
standard user can't log on BruceL Windows Vista Administration 1 01-25-2008 02:08 AM
Behaviour of elevation prompt for Standard Users On All Vista Edit Gayle Windows Vista Administration 3 08-02-2007 07:26 PM
Standard user (power user group) Ray Windows XP Configuration & Management 1 07-31-2004 08:08 PM
Restricted User & Standard User Scott Micale Windows XP Security & Administration 1 09-06-2003 07:50 AM
Regedit - Office settings to Default user? Tom Johnson Windows XP Setup 1 08-23-2003 08:36 PM