Start Menu A Living Hell?

> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
> installed
> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a turn...
>
> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
> menu,
> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and switching
> to
> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
> XP/Vista.
>
> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
> the
> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided
> that
> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
> Menu.
>
> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>
> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP, and
> I
> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy or
> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
> usable Start Menu.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
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>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

> The start menu is one of the greatest innovations of Windows Vista. If you
> ever had enough programs that your cascading start menu covered the whole
> screen and off the page,

> it is possible that a the tree model could overflow that much smaller
> window it is placed in. After seeing the inline 'all programs' menu in
> Vista, the cascading start menu model looks very awkward protruding from
> the start menu.
>
> The most important part of the start menu is the search box. Want to open
> word? Reach your pinky finger down to the "windows" key, press it, type
> word (or wo), press enter, and poof word pops up. Same thing for disk
> cleanup. Type disk (or di) and press enter. In fact 'w' + enter opens the
> media center.
>
> Robert Firth
> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
>
> "ShaunNZ" <ShaunNZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:728A4F53-4FA6-4EC6-B76C-33DDAB3E2A59@microsoft.com...

>> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
>> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
>> installed
>> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a turn...
>>
>> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
>> menu,
>> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and
>> switching to
>> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
>> XP/Vista.
>>
>> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
>> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
>> the
>> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided
>> that
>> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
>> Menu.
>>
>> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
>> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
>> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>>
>> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP,
>> and I
>> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy
>> or
>> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
>> usable Start Menu.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

>

>
> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
> news:7365FE67-C305-41A0-ADE5-2C7273841837@microsoft.com...

>> The start menu is one of the greatest innovations of Windows Vista. If
>> you ever had enough programs that your cascading start menu covered the
>> whole screen and off the page,

>
>
> Ever checked the "Scroll programs" checkbox in XP?
>
>
>
> you would feel the same way I do. However, I'm sure

>> it is possible that a the tree model could overflow that much smaller
>> window it is placed in. After seeing the inline 'all programs' menu in
>> Vista, the cascading start menu model looks very awkward protruding from
>> the start menu.
>>
>> The most important part of the start menu is the search box. Want to open
>> word? Reach your pinky finger down to the "windows" key, press it, type
>> word (or wo), press enter, and poof word pops up. Same thing for disk
>> cleanup. Type disk (or di) and press enter. In fact 'w' + enter opens the
>> media center.
>>
>> Robert Firth
>> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>>
>>
>> "ShaunNZ" <ShaunNZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:728A4F53-4FA6-4EC6-B76C-33DDAB3E2A59@microsoft.com...

>>> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
>>> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
>>> installed
>>> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a
>>> turn...
>>>
>>> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
>>> menu,
>>> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and
>>> switching to
>>> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
>>> XP/Vista.
>>>
>>> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
>>> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
>>> the
>>> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided
>>> that
>>> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
>>> Menu.
>>>
>>> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
>>> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
>>> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>>>
>>> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP,
>>> and I
>>> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy
>>> or
>>> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
>>> usable Start Menu.
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>> "I
>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>> this
>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>> then
>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>
>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

>>

>
>

> No, I just screamed at the computer for a few hours before I uninstalled a
> few programs.
>
> Robert Firth
> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
>
> "PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message
> news:%23AwqvR64GHA.1848@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>
>> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:7365FE67-C305-41A0-ADE5-2C7273841837@microsoft.com...

>>> The start menu is one of the greatest innovations of Windows Vista. If
>>> you ever had enough programs that your cascading start menu covered the
>>> whole screen and off the page,

>>
>>
>> Ever checked the "Scroll programs" checkbox in XP?
>>
>>
>>
>> you would feel the same way I do. However, I'm sure

>>> it is possible that a the tree model could overflow that much smaller
>>> window it is placed in. After seeing the inline 'all programs' menu in
>>> Vista, the cascading start menu model looks very awkward protruding from
>>> the start menu.
>>>
>>> The most important part of the start menu is the search box. Want to
>>> open word? Reach your pinky finger down to the "windows" key, press it,
>>> type word (or wo), press enter, and poof word pops up. Same thing for
>>> disk cleanup. Type disk (or di) and press enter. In fact 'w' + enter
>>> opens the media center.
>>>
>>> Robert Firth
>>> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>>>
>>>
>>> "ShaunNZ" <ShaunNZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:728A4F53-4FA6-4EC6-B76C-33DDAB3E2A59@microsoft.com...
>>>> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
>>>> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
>>>> installed
>>>> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a
>>>> turn...
>>>>
>>>> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
>>>> menu,
>>>> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and
>>>> switching to
>>>> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
>>>> XP/Vista.
>>>>
>>>> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the
>>>> Start
>>>> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
>>>> the
>>>> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead
>>>> decided that
>>>> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
>>>> Menu.
>>>>
>>>> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
>>>> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
>>>> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>>>>
>>>> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP,
>>>> and I
>>>> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy
>>>> or
>>>> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
>>>> usable Start Menu.
>>>>
>>>> ----------------
>>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>>>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>>>> "I
>>>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>>>> this
>>>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>>>> then
>>>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>>>
>>>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general
>>>

>>
>>

>

> The start menu is one of the greatest innovations of Windows Vista. If you
> ever had enough programs that your cascading start menu covered the whole
> screen and off the page, you would feel the same way I do. However, I'm
> sure it is possible that a the tree model could overflow that much smaller
> window it is placed in. After seeing the inline 'all programs' menu in
> Vista, the cascading start menu model looks very awkward protruding from
> the start menu.
>
> The most important part of the start menu is the search box. Want to open
> word? Reach your pinky finger down to the "windows" key, press it, type
> word (or wo), press enter, and poof word pops up. Same thing for disk
> cleanup. Type disk (or di) and press enter. In fact 'w' + enter opens the
> media center.
>
> Robert Firth
> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>
>
> "ShaunNZ" <ShaunNZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:728A4F53-4FA6-4EC6-B76C-33DDAB3E2A59@microsoft.com...

>> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
>> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
>> installed
>> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a turn...
>>
>> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
>> menu,
>> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and
>> switching to
>> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
>> XP/Vista.
>>
>> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
>> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
>> the
>> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided
>> that
>> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
>> Menu.
>>
>> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
>> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
>> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>>
>> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP,
>> and I
>> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy
>> or
>> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
>> usable Start Menu.
>>
>> ----------------
>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> "I
>> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> this
>> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> then
>> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>>
>> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

>

> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
> installed
> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a turn...
>
> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
> menu,
> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and switching
> to
> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
> XP/Vista.
>
> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
> the
> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided
> that
> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
> Menu.
>
> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>
> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP, and
> I
> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy or
> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
> usable Start Menu.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and
> installed
> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a turn...
>
> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start
> menu,
> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and switching
> to
> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed
> XP/Vista.
>
> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed
> the
> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided
> that
> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start
> Menu.
>
> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>
> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP, and
> I
> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy or
> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
> usable Start Menu.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general

> First of all I must admit that the install of Vista RC1 (64bit) was
> absolutely marvellous, no errors or faults. Hardware detected and installed
> correctly for the most part. After that however things do take a turn...
>
> Whilst I recognise the search box as a great leap forward in the start menu,
> removing the cascading pop-out all programs menu is a curse, and switching to
> classic view removes the majority of the features that have redeemed XP/Vista.
>
> One hopes that Microsoft R&D spent a lot of time and effort on the Start
> Menu for Vista, especially considering the marketing push that followed the
> release or 95, although perhaps the marketing department instead decided that
> a pretty colour scheme was far more important than a functional Start Menu.
>
> I would suggest that the option of utilising the XP dual columned Start
> Menu, with the addition of the newer Vista features would assist in the
> uptake of this new version and ease the change over for most users.
>
> Being the neotechnical ludite that I am, I may have to remain with XP, and I
> can easily state that few, if any, of my clients or contacts will enjoy or
> desire the change to Vista over XP in part due to the lack of an easily
> usable Start Menu.
>
> ----------------
> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow this
> link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com....vista.general