switches to permit an oem winxp home setup disk to update win98

Doesnt seem possible that there isnt a way that the programmers needed
to test this... what are the hidden setup switches given to the
manufacturers to test and retest their setups till they got it right
to mass produce...

is this just another case of product segmentation for pricing... what
is missing form the OEM-CD-.. nada...

so why aern't the setup.exe switches available?

Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com



On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:06:14 -0500, "Nicholas"
<mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:

>OEM versions of Windows XP cannot be used to upgrade an
>existing Windows installation. It must be installed "clean" on a
>reformatted drive. Only "retail versions" of Windows XP are
>capable of upgrading.
>
>--
>Nicholas
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
> news:3f5252b5.62945761@News-server.cfl.rr.com...
>
>| help... have an licensed copy of oem winxp install disk, and it only
>| permits a new setup..
>|
>| I need to save hundreds of hours by upgrading to My win98 programs and
>| files.
>|
>| is this possible
>|
>| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com

OEM versions of Windows XP:

-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installation
-- cannot be transferred to a different computer in the future
-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user
-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support
-- must be purchase with some type of computer hardware
-- cost less due to the above limitations

--
Nicholas

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
news:3f536af1.69149822@News-server.cfl.rr.com...

| Doesnt seem possible that there isnt a way that the programmers needed
| to test this... what are the hidden setup switches given to the
| manufacturers to test and retest their setups till they got it right
| to mass produce...
|
| is this just another case of product segmentation for pricing... what
| is missing form the OEM-CD-.. nada...
|
| so why aern't the setup.exe switches available?
|
| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com
|
|
|
| On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:06:14 -0500, "Nicholas"
| <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
|
| >OEM versions of Windows XP cannot be used to upgrade an
| >existing Windows installation. It must be installed "clean" on a
| >reformatted drive. Only "retail versions" of Windows XP are
| >capable of upgrading.
| >
| >--
| >Nicholas
| >
| >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >
| >"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
| > news:3f5252b5.62945761@News-server.cfl.rr.com...
| >
| >| help... have an licensed copy of oem winxp install disk, and it only
| >| permits a new setup..
| >|
| >| I need to save hundreds of hours by upgrading to My win98 programs and
| >| files.
| >|
| >| is this possible
| >|
| >| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com
|

>OEM versions of Windows XP:

>
>-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installationsupport in three l

that seems like a restriction about money not software

>-- cannot be transferred to a different computer in the future

dont need to..

>-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user

no problems there

>-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support

support by those who can not be understood by an american speaking
english... no problems there

>-- must be purchase with some type of computer hardware

did.. bought a 3rd hard drive

>-- cost less due to the above limitations

silly limitations given the "lack of loss of value" to me

>

now for the switches please..



On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:10:21 -0500, "Nicholas"
<mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:

>OEM versions of Windows XP:
>
>-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installation
>-- cannot be transferred to a different computer in the future
>-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user
>-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support
>-- must be purchase with some type of computer hardware
>-- cost less due to the above limitations
>
>--
>Nicholas
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
> news:3f536af1.69149822@News-server.cfl.rr.com...
>
>| Doesnt seem possible that there isnt a way that the programmers needed
>| to test this... what are the hidden setup switches given to the
>| manufacturers to test and retest their setups till they got it right
>| to mass produce...
>|
>| is this just another case of product segmentation for pricing... what
>| is missing form the OEM-CD-.. nada...
>|
>| so why aern't the setup.exe switches available?
>|
>| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com
>|
>|
>|
>| On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:06:14 -0500, "Nicholas"
>| <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>|
>| >OEM versions of Windows XP cannot be used to upgrade an
>| >existing Windows installation. It must be installed "clean" on a
>| >reformatted drive. Only "retail versions" of Windows XP are
>| >capable of upgrading.
>| >
>| >--
>| >Nicholas
>| >
>| >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| >
>| >"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
>| > news:3f5252b5.62945761@News-server.cfl.rr.com...
>| >
>| >| help... have an licensed copy of oem winxp install disk, and it only
>| >| permits a new setup..
>| >|
>| >| I need to save hundreds of hours by upgrading to My win98 programs and
>| >| files.
>| >|
>| >| is this possible
>| >|
>| >| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com
>|

Ed,

I'm sorry, but what makes you think they have switches for this? Sure, the resulting
OS code bits that would be laid down would basically be the same, but the setup
routines/programs are different. Why would they code in switches to do exactly what
they DON'T want in the OEM version.

--
Randy Byrne
Microsoft MVP (Windows Technologies)
http://support.microsoft.com/support/mvp
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

Do not email me, please use the newsgroup so that everyone benefits.


"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3f54753c.71784951@News-server.cfl.rr.com...

> >OEM versions of Windows XP:
> >
> >-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installationsupport in three l

> that seems like a restriction about money not software

> >-- cannot be transferred to a different computer in the future

> dont need to..

> >-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user

> no problems there

> >-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support

> support by those who can not be understood by an american speaking
> english... no problems there

> >-- must be purchase with some type of computer hardware

> did.. bought a 3rd hard drive

> >-- cost less due to the above limitations

> silly limitations given the "lack of loss of value" to me

> >

> now for the switches please..
>
>
>
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 17:10:21 -0500, "Nicholas"
> <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>

> >OEM versions of Windows XP:
> >
> >-- cannot upgrade over an existing Windows installation
> >-- cannot be transferred to a different computer in the future
> >-- the license cannot be sold or transferred to another user
> >-- are not eligible for free Microsoft technical support
> >-- must be purchase with some type of computer hardware
> >-- cost less due to the above limitations
> >
> >--
> >Nicholas
> >

>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> >
> >"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
> > news:3f536af1.69149822@News-server.cfl.rr.com...
> >
> >| Doesnt seem possible that there isnt a way that the programmers needed
> >| to test this... what are the hidden setup switches given to the
> >| manufacturers to test and retest their setups till they got it right
> >| to mass produce...
> >|
> >| is this just another case of product segmentation for pricing... what
> >| is missing form the OEM-CD-.. nada...
> >|
> >| so why aern't the setup.exe switches available?
> >|
> >| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com
> >|
> >|
> >|
> >| On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:06:14 -0500, "Nicholas"
> >| <mrxp2004@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> >|
> >| >OEM versions of Windows XP cannot be used to upgrade an
> >| >existing Windows installation. It must be installed "clean" on a
> >| >reformatted drive. Only "retail versions" of Windows XP are
> >| >capable of upgrading.
> >| >
> >| >--
> >| >Nicholas
> >| >
> >|

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----

> >| >
> >| >"Ed Z" <ezeid@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message:
> >| > news:3f5252b5.62945761@News-server.cfl.rr.com...
> >| >
> >| >| help... have an licensed copy of oem winxp install disk, and it only
> >| >| permits a new setup..
> >| >|
> >| >| I need to save hundreds of hours by upgrading to My win98 programs and
> >| >| files.
> >| >|
> >| >| is this possible
> >| >|
> >| >| Reply addy: Thinker53@hotmail.com
> >|

>
>

ezeid@cfl.rr.com (Ed Z) wrote in
news:3f536af1.69149822@News-server.cfl.rr.com:

> Doesnt seem possible that there isnt a way that the programmers needed
> to test this... what are the hidden setup switches given to the
> manufacturers to test and retest their setups till they got it right
> to mass produce...
>
> is this just another case of product segmentation for pricing... what
> is missing form the OEM-CD-.. nada...
>
> so why aern't the setup.exe switches available?
>

Why would there be switches?? Programmers aren't likely to use OEM CD's.
they would use retail Upgrade or full version CD's. OEM disk are made for
Manufacturers/Builders to install on brand new systems that don;'t have any
previous OS.

And yes, It is Price Segmentation. OEM CD's are cheaper because they don't
do Upgrades and there is no MS support.

David