The lie?

The OS is ok if you take it for what it is... the problem is the lies people
say claiming that it is fast, or
the speed and bloatness will magically go away when the RTM is released.

Any person who has even basic computer knowledge can clearly see that Vista
is slower of far more bloated...
and all this for no spectacular reason.

Hey... you're gonna hear it again and again from thousands of people... dont
stand there and look suprised...
you will get used to it! :-)


"BChat" <BChat@Smile.net> wrote in message
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> If you don't like it - don't use it.....................it really is very
> simple.
> --
> BChat
>
> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> news:ONYI6Kh6GHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ok now to remind you all of my bet....
>
> People in here claimed that the size, bloat and slowness of vista was due
> to
> the DEBUGGING code inside the
> betas and RC's..... Then went ahead to say that when this would be removed
> vista would be far leaner and faster.....
>
> in fact this was their primary excuse for the way vista is in the betas
> (and
> RC's).
>
> I say that they are stupid, and that vista will have almost the same speed
> as it has now, and the bloat wont go away.
>
> They are either lying, or don't know what the .... they are talking about!
>
> The same excuse was given when Live Messenger was in beta.. when it was
> released did something change? NOPE!!!
>
> We will see in RTM.... but Im pretty sure I am right....
>
>

John Jay Smith wrote:

> Ok now to remind you all of my bet....
>
> People in here claimed that the size, bloat and slowness of vista was due to
> the DEBUGGING code inside the
> betas and RC's..... Then went ahead to say that when this would be removed
> vista would be far leaner and faster.....
>
> in fact this was their primary excuse for the way vista is in the betas (and
> RC's).
>
> I say that they are stupid, and that vista will have almost the same speed
> as it has now, and the bloat wont go away.
>
> They are either lying, or don't know what the .... they are talking about!
>
> The same excuse was given when Live Messenger was in beta.. when it was
> released did something change? NOPE!!!
>
> We will see in RTM.... but Im pretty sure I am right....
>
>

Vista is almost on par with XP. At least for me. I expect performance to
increase when drivers get better. When I remember the change from
Windows 2000 to XP current Vista performance is great.

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
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> I say that they are stupid, and that vista will have almost the same speed
> as it has now, and the bloat wont go away.

I say, that you are stupid, becouse on my PC Vista shows same speed, like in
XP, even in games. I think you need Mak.

Vlad (DarkTrooper) wrote :

> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> news:ONYI6Kh6GHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I say that they are stupid, and that vista will have almost the same speed
>> as it has now, and the bloat wont go away.

> I say, that you are stupid, becouse on my PC Vista shows same speed, like in
> XP, even in games. I think you need Mak.

hmmmm, not true for me
at least conecerning game play
I see a performace fall quite clearly
also the screen is much darker playing the same game as opposed to
winxp
I am using the WDM drivers for an ATI 9600Pro though, maybe that could
be the reason

in regards to bloat, there is a truth in there about the size of the
system
I am currently using 13GB of a 16GB system partition

grtz

> also the screen is much darker playing the same game as opposed to

> winxp

Ha-ha-ha! And mob's in WoW much harder.

> I am using the WDM drivers for an ATI 9600Pro though, maybe that could
> be the reason

9600 isn't video for game long-long time ago

I play in FarCry, CS source, Company of Heroes, same FPS in XP and Vista.

Vlad (DarkTrooper) expressed precisely :

>> also the screen is much darker playing the same game as opposed to winxp

> Ha-ha-ha! And mob's in WoW much harder.

>> I am using the WDM drivers for an ATI 9600Pro though, maybe that could be
>> the reason

> 9600 isn't video for game long-long time ago

> I play in FarCry, CS source, Company of Heroes, same FPS in XP and Vista.

try writing in simple english because I have no clue what you mean

grtz

"chriske911" <chriske911nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Vlad (DarkTrooper) expressed precisely :
> try writing in simple english because I have no clue what you mean

Ok, if you not very bright, i will:

I have AMD64 3000+, 2 Gb Ram, and 300Gb Hdd. (That simply enough?)
My video is old, and I replace it very soon. I have R9800 pro. I'v try
FarCry, WoW, Company of Heroes, FEAR, Settlers 2, CS source, and more on XP
and Vista simultaneously. Performance in this games - like in Vista, like in
XP - equal! Funny, but old "Idiana Jones, and the Infernal Mashine" dont
start on XP, but started on Vista.

People, who try to install Vista on old computers, with less then 1 Gb Ram -
make me laught! People, who play in modern games on computers less than 1 Gb
Ram - make me laugh. If you live in 2006, try to use games and OS 2006, why
didnt buy yourself a computer 2006 year? If you still living in 1998, why
dont use Windows 3.11 and DOS games? In year 2007, you must have 2 Gb RAM,
R1900 or Gf7800 to play games. On this computers, Vista shows equal
performance with XP or better.

P.S. I'v long works with Suse Linux 9. People, who try to tell, that Vista
is laggy - also make me laugh.

install 50-100 + programs like almost all modern systems have then you will
see the speed fall rock bottom.

I dont suppose your stupidness is comparing a freshly installed vista with
an old installment of xp?


"Vlad (DarkTrooper)" <vlad_dt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> news:ONYI6Kh6GHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>

>> I say that they are stupid, and that vista will have almost the same
>> speed as it has now, and the bloat wont go away.

>
> I say, that you are stupid, becouse on my PC Vista shows same speed, like
> in XP, even in games. I think you need Mak.