three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!

Posted: 04-25-2006, 08:22 AM
I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my harddrive
EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in new
files).

Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
Is this normal?

You could try this experiment yourself and see what you get ...

Reboot the system, go into Command Prompt and do a "dir". Jot down the
"bytes free" figure that appears at the bottom of the listing, then
get out of Command Prompt.
Then, right away, reboot again, go to Command Prompt, do a "dir" and
jot down the "bytes free" figure. Compare this new figure with the one
gotten previously and subtract to get the difference.

Do you get 3MB? (Please tell us what you get).

What accounts for this big difference?

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Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-25-2006, 09:18 AM
Check out your System Restore settings (and go easy on
cross-posting. Your question is not exactly a matter of
life and death).


"wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
> notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my harddrive
> EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in new
> files).
>
> Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
> processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
> Is this normal?
>
> You could try this experiment yourself and see what you get ...
>
> Reboot the system, go into Command Prompt and do a "dir". Jot down the
> "bytes free" figure that appears at the bottom of the listing, then
> get out of Command Prompt.
> Then, right away, reboot again, go to Command Prompt, do a "dir" and
> jot down the "bytes free" figure. Compare this new figure with the one
> gotten previously and subtract to get the difference.
>
> Do you get 3MB? (Please tell us what you get).
>
> What accounts for this big difference?
>

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Jon
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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-25-2006, 09:33 AM

"wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
> notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my harddrive
> EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in new
> files).
>
> Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
> processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
> Is this normal?
>
> You could try this experiment yourself and see what you get ...
>
> Reboot the system, go into Command Prompt and do a "dir". Jot down the
> "bytes free" figure that appears at the bottom of the listing, then
> get out of Command Prompt.
> Then, right away, reboot again, go to Command Prompt, do a "dir" and
> jot down the "bytes free" figure. Compare this new figure with the one
> gotten previously and subtract to get the difference.
>
> Do you get 3MB? (Please tell us what you get).
>
> What accounts for this big difference?
>
Get a difference here, but not quite as large, nor as consistent

INITIALLY
21,010,255,872 free

AFTER REBOOT1
21,010,587,648 free
ie a drop in space used of 324 k (331776 /1024)

AFTER REBOOT2
21,010,272,256 free
ie a regain of space used 308 k (315392 / 1024)

Jon

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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-25-2006, 04:34 PM
Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
> > notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my harddrive
> > EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in new
> > files).
> >
> > Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
> > processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
> > Is this normal?
>
> Check out your System Restore settings ...
Which System Restore settings should I be looking at?
> ... (and go easy on cross-posting.
> Your question is not exactly a matter of life and death).
I cross-posted to the groups that I felt the topic was of most
relevance to so that ...
(a) those who read those groups can benefit from the exchange, and
(b) I increase the chances of getting the most helpful answers.
After all, isn't that the purpose of cross-posting?

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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-25-2006, 07:36 PM
Generally you should limit cross posting to 3 or less newsgroups.
Any more than that and you are probably posting to less relevant newsgroups.

As an example Help and Support is not appropriate for your post.
Although often confused as a help and support newsgroup, it is actually a
newsgroup for issues pertaining to the Help and Support feature of Windows
XP.

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> I cross-posted to the groups that I felt the topic was of most
> relevance to so that ...
> (a) those who read those groups can benefit from the exchange, and
> (b) I increase the chances of getting the most helpful answers.
> After all, isn't that the purpose of cross-posting?

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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-25-2006, 11:25 PM

"wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
> > > notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my harddrive
> > > EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in new
> > > files).
> > >
> > > Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
> > > processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
> > > Is this normal?
> >
> > Check out your System Restore settings ...
>
> Which System Restore settings should I be looking at?
>
> > ... (and go easy on cross-posting.
> > Your question is not exactly a matter of life and death).
>
> I cross-posted to the groups that I felt the topic was of most
> relevance to so that ...
> (a) those who read those groups can benefit from the exchange, and
> (b) I increase the chances of getting the most helpful answers.
> After all, isn't that the purpose of cross-posting?
>
You should not disable any System Restore setting -
it has a useful purpose.
Click Start / Help / Search tab and type System Restore
to find out more about this facility and how to view/modify
its settings.


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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-26-2006, 10:24 AM

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> As an example Help and Support is not appropriate for your post.
> Although often confused as a help and support newsgroup, it is actually a
> newsgroup for issues pertaining to the Help and Support feature of Windows
> XP.
Assuming that what you say is literally true, how can you expect
*anyone* to know that?

If the name of the newsgroup is
"microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support" how can you really,
honestly, expect *anyone* who's not a Microsoft insider
*not* to conclude that it's a help-and-support newsgroup ???

If that newsgroup is truly meant for the "Help and Support feature"
then it should be properly renamed to indicate that.

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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-26-2006, 01:47 PM

"wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
> > As an example Help and Support is not appropriate for your post.
> > Although often confused as a help and support newsgroup, it is actually
a
> > newsgroup for issues pertaining to the Help and Support feature of
Windows
> > XP.
>
> Assuming that what you say is literally true, how can you expect
> *anyone* to know that?
>
> If the name of the newsgroup is
> "microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support" how can you really,
> honestly, expect *anyone* who's not a Microsoft insider
> *not* to conclude that it's a help-and-support newsgroup ???
>
> If that newsgroup is truly meant for the "Help and Support feature"
> then it should be properly renamed to indicate that.
>
I think you're missing a couple of points.
- Some newsgroups are very busy (e.g. WindowsXP.general), and
there are only so and so many volunteers to spend their time
answering questions. If people post questions with minor issues
in five or more newsgroups then they make it much harder
for people with serious problems (e.g. a PC failing to start) to
get any attention. It's a question of fairness.
- Labouring a procedural point with a someone who might
know the solution to your problem appears to be poor tactics.

Lastly, respondents in these newsgroups are ***not***
Microsoft insiders. They are volunteers from the general
public.


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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-26-2006, 02:11 PM
Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > > "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
> > > > notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my harddrive
> > > > EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in
> > > > new files).
> > > >
> > > > Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
> > > > processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
> > > > Is this normal?
> Click Start / Help / Search tab and type System Restore
> to find out more about this facility and how to view/modify
> its settings.
I did the above as you suggested, but I didn't notice anything there
that seems to answer my original question of why three megabytes are
consumed on my harddrive every time I reboot.

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Re: three megabytes consumed at every re-boot !!!
Posted: 04-26-2006, 02:22 PM

"wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > > > "wylbur37" <wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > I recently discovered that every time I restart Windows XP Pro, I
> > > > > notice roughly 3 megabytes (3,000,000) less space left on my
harddrive
> > > > > EVEN WHEN I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING (such as creating or copying in
> > > > > new files).
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I can imagine that the system keeps audit logs of various
> > > > > processes, but 3 MB seems a bit much, isn't it?
> > > > > Is this normal?
>
> > Click Start / Help / Search tab and type System Restore
> > to find out more about this facility and how to view/modify
> > its settings.
>
> I did the above as you suggested, but I didn't notice anything there
> that seems to answer my original question of why three megabytes are
> consumed on my harddrive every time I reboot.
>
Presumably because System Restore adds data to its restore
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over several days and keep notes of how much is stored where.

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