Transferred movie (from Digital Camera) wrongly playbacked on PC

Posted: 10-03-2004, 08:39 PM
Hi!

If you are reading this and you know something or everything of digital
movie editing, then, you would be my salvation. I have been having this issue
since two weeks ago.

I am using a DELL INSPIRON 8200 with 512 of RAM that has a firewire port
which I used to have downloaded a movie from my SONY TR460. Apparently, the
transfer does well with Windows Movie Maker, with ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO 7 DVD,
with SONIC WIZARD DVD and with ULEAD DVDFACTORY.

However, when I playback that movie on my PC there are things very wrong. A
two-hour movie appears to be a 20 minute movie when played on Windows Media
Player. Plus, the sound and the images skip and go crazy.

At the beginning, I thought that this anormality was part of editing and at
the moment of burning a DVD the problem would dissapear, but it dit not. I
contacted SONY, DELL and they could not solve this problem. I downloaded
upgrades and tried to change different options in the settings, but I did not
succeed.

It cannot be the capacity of my computer because I am using an additional
hard drive and the 512 RAM of speed. It cannot be the camera either because
it works playing back even the 8 mm tapes, although the camera is a digital
one. I also tried to change the tapes (8mm, S8, D8) when trying to have them
on my computer, but the issue remained the same.

I was thinking of something wrong with the settings or the software I was
using, but since ULEAD DVD FACTORY worked (only decoded correctly the first
thirteen minutes) all this makes me think about a setting or something that I
did not do properly...or maybe it is an issue of compatibility...or maybe
just my computer is spoiled..

What do you think?

Please have the kindness to copy me to this address

ussy_2003@yahoo.com


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Puppy Breath
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RE: Transferred movie (from Digital Camera) wrongly playbacked on PC
Posted: 10-06-2004, 12:07 AM
You should send this to Dell -- it doesn't sound like a Movie Maker problem.


"Man in trouble!" wrote:
> Hi!
>
> If you are reading this and you know something or everything of digital
> movie editing, then, you would be my salvation. I have been having this issue
> since two weeks ago.
>
> I am using a DELL INSPIRON 8200 with 512 of RAM that has a firewire port
> which I used to have downloaded a movie from my SONY TR460. Apparently, the
> transfer does well with Windows Movie Maker, with ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO 7 DVD,
> with SONIC WIZARD DVD and with ULEAD DVDFACTORY.
>
> However, when I playback that movie on my PC there are things very wrong. A
> two-hour movie appears to be a 20 minute movie when played on Windows Media
> Player. Plus, the sound and the images skip and go crazy.
>
> At the beginning, I thought that this anormality was part of editing and at
> the moment of burning a DVD the problem would dissapear, but it dit not. I
> contacted SONY, DELL and they could not solve this problem. I downloaded
> upgrades and tried to change different options in the settings, but I did not
> succeed.
>
> It cannot be the capacity of my computer because I am using an additional
> hard drive and the 512 RAM of speed. It cannot be the camera either because
> it works playing back even the 8 mm tapes, although the camera is a digital
> one. I also tried to change the tapes (8mm, S8, D8) when trying to have them
> on my computer, but the issue remained the same.
>
> I was thinking of something wrong with the settings or the software I was
> using, but since ULEAD DVD FACTORY worked (only decoded correctly the first
> thirteen minutes) all this makes me think about a setting or something that I
> did not do properly...or maybe it is an issue of compatibility...or maybe
> just my computer is spoiled..
>
> What do you think?
>
> Please have the kindness to copy me to this address
>
> ussy_2003@yahoo.com
>
>
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Rehan
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Re: Transferred movie (from Digital Camera) wrongly playbacked on PC
Posted: 10-06-2004, 02:46 AM
"Man in trouble!" <Manintrouble@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

[...]
> However, when I playback that movie on my PC there are things very wrong.
> A
> two-hour movie appears to be a 20 minute movie when played on Windows
> Media
> Player. Plus, the sound and the images skip and go crazy.
Try playing with some other media player; particularly Media Player Classic
to eliminate if it is the problemwith media player.

It could be a codecs issue. Try reading up the papajohn.org site's Codecs
and Hardware Acceleration sections.

Other things to try include:

1. Reinstall SP2
1. Reinstall DirectX runtime (full download)
2. Install Windows Media Encoder

--
Rehan
www.rehanfx.org - get transitions and effects for Windows MovieMaker



"Man in trouble!" <Manintrouble@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:17ACE003-62BB-47BB-8E31-0E282CFFC60A@microsoft.com...
> Hi!
>
> If you are reading this and you know something or everything of digital
> movie editing, then, you would be my salvation. I have been having this
> issue
> since two weeks ago.
>
> I am using a DELL INSPIRON 8200 with 512 of RAM that has a firewire port
> which I used to have downloaded a movie from my SONY TR460. Apparently,
> the
> transfer does well with Windows Movie Maker, with ULEAD VIDEO STUDIO 7
> DVD,
> with SONIC WIZARD DVD and with ULEAD DVDFACTORY.
>
> However, when I playback that movie on my PC there are things very wrong.
> A
> two-hour movie appears to be a 20 minute movie when played on Windows
> Media
> Player. Plus, the sound and the images skip and go crazy.
>
> At the beginning, I thought that this anormality was part of editing and
> at
> the moment of burning a DVD the problem would dissapear, but it dit not. I
> contacted SONY, DELL and they could not solve this problem. I downloaded
> upgrades and tried to change different options in the settings, but I did
> not
> succeed.
>
> It cannot be the capacity of my computer because I am using an additional
> hard drive and the 512 RAM of speed. It cannot be the camera either
> because
> it works playing back even the 8 mm tapes, although the camera is a
> digital
> one. I also tried to change the tapes (8mm, S8, D8) when trying to have
> them
> on my computer, but the issue remained the same.
>
> I was thinking of something wrong with the settings or the software I was
> using, but since ULEAD DVD FACTORY worked (only decoded correctly the
> first
> thirteen minutes) all this makes me think about a setting or something
> that I
> did not do properly...or maybe it is an issue of compatibility...or maybe
> just my computer is spoiled..
>
> What do you think?
>
> Please have the kindness to copy me to this address
>
> ussy_2003@yahoo.com
>
>

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John Kelly
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Re: Transferred movie (from Digital Camera) wrongly playbacked on PC
Posted: 10-06-2004, 09:03 AM
Hello there,

If option one or two do not work, I do a good line in 5 and 10lb lump
hammers.....they are quite cheap

You sound as though you are suffering from a codec problem. There are two root
causes and below you will find the solution for each together with some notes
on other issues.

Option 1)

The one stop solution for that is a program called Rename Codecs and it is
available from my web site (Free). Make sure you check out the FAQ, on the
site, on what it does and how to run it (That will take about one minute of
your time!!) All the info you need is on the web site. The latest version is
1.51.

This reassuringly safe to use program requires no knowledge on your part about
what it is doing or how it is doing it or what it is doing it too!!! neither do
you need to know where any of these files are or whether it is safe to rename
them or not.....and best of all, ITS FREE !!!

Option 2)

If this does not solve your problem then try the following out...it has proved
to be a successful procedure for a variety of problems.

1) Download the full version of DirectX Ver 9.0c, Media Player 9 (10 if you
prefer), and Service Pack 2(SP2).

2) Reboot you computer and Install DirectX

3) Reboot again and install Windows Media Player

4) Reboot yet again and install Service Pack 2

5) Reboot one more time

Yes it sounds very tedious, but if you want to be certain all file locks are
removed so that the correct files can be installed this is the way you have to
go.

It is very important that you only download the full versions of these programs
and that you DO NOT attempt an install over the internet.

Other Notes
===========
Graphic Card Acceleration
-------------------------

There is advice floating around that you should disable the graphics
acceleration abilities of your graphics card if Movie Maker locks up or crashes
out. Doing this is roughly equivalent to taking out your current graphics card
and replacing it with an Etch-o-Sketch toy.

The Graphics card on the machine I edit on is a cut above the average, it has
DV In & Out as well as Video In & Out. It does all sorts of clever things and
it is extremely fast. Then the day came when I tried Movie Maker 2 for the
first time. It was a disaster. Knowing what the problem was I immediately
logged on to Microsoft and got the latest driver. There was no change with the
performance of the Graphics card with respect to Movie Maker. After a lot of
messing about I went to the cards manufacturer and downloaded there most recent
driver. I was convinced that the one from Microsoft was in some way defective.
It turned out that I was right but for the wrong reason.

The version of the driver from Microsoft was more recent than the one on my
system AND more recent than the one from the OEM.BUT, the OEM had made minor
changes to how the card worked and these were not taken into consideration by
the Microsoft update!!!

So, do not get the generic update from Microsoft until you have tried the
latest driver from the manufacturer of your card.

Registration
------------

There is in my view some very bad advice floating around that tells you to
unregister the offending codec. If you take this advise be warned that
unregistering any file and doing it wrong will more than likely stop the
program that file belongs to from working all together and may in an extreme
situation cause your entire XP system to fail. This is true whether you make a
mistake using the Registry editor or the registration program itself, one
mistake and you are potentially in deep trouble. Whatever you unregister in
this manner has to be restored and you should take note that the registration
of a codec can often involve more than one registry entry. If you are expert in
these matters you will have no problem.

I have also found that MP3, Mpeg and Jpeg files can cause problems, So...

Convert all MP3 to WAV or WMA

Convert all MPeg to AVI

Convert all Jpeg to BMP

Video Conversion
------------------------

For Video Conversion you should also check out the Knowledge Base Section of my
"Great Links > Knowledge Base" One of the website's in there called "Video
Help" has the best collection of useful information I have yet come across on
converting between the various formats together with links to the software
needed.

Image Size
----------------
There is a lot of very bad advice being given out on Aspect Ratios in relation
to still images. The short version of the advice you actually need is this.

16:9
-----
If you want a 16:9 ratio final product (video) you should crop your image to
the ratio of 16:9. In addition (talking in terms of PAL) you should use your
favourite image editor to resize the image so that is 576 pixels tall...the
width takes care of itself if you cropped it to 16:9.

4:3
---
If you want a 4:3 picture (older style TV screen) then crop it to that ratio,
then resize the image so that its height is......576 (Pal mewasurement), again
the width takes care of itself.

Weird Sizes
-----------------
Under no circumstances should you EVER create or resize an image so thats its
dimensions are something like 800 x 600....if you do you will get a slightly
blured image...and no amount of tinkering around the edges will ever put it
right. See the FAQ on Movie Maker and Ratio on my website for a more detailed
example of why that image will blur.

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Man in trouble!
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Re: Transferred movie (from Digital Camera) wrongly playbacked on
Posted: 10-06-2004, 03:27 PM
HI!

THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR WORDS. I am going to try to see how it will go. I was
guessing a coding and decoding issue might appear. It seems that you could be
right. However, I am not familiar with coding or decoding. Is there some
useful and good website that could walk me through the steps to set up a good
coding and decoding for my computer?

Man in trouble...more in trouble

"John Kelly" wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> If option one or two do not work, I do a good line in 5 and 10lb lump
> hammers.....they are quite cheap
>
> You sound as though you are suffering from a codec problem. There are two root
> causes and below you will find the solution for each together with some notes
> on other issues.
>
> Option 1)
>
> The one stop solution for that is a program called Rename Codecs and it is
> available from my web site (Free). Make sure you check out the FAQ, on the
> site, on what it does and how to run it (That will take about one minute of
> your time!!) All the info you need is on the web site. The latest version is
> 1.51.
>
> This reassuringly safe to use program requires no knowledge on your part about
> what it is doing or how it is doing it or what it is doing it too!!! neither do
> you need to know where any of these files are or whether it is safe to rename
> them or not.....and best of all, ITS FREE !!!
>
> Option 2)
>
> If this does not solve your problem then try the following out...it has proved
> to be a successful procedure for a variety of problems.
>
> 1) Download the full version of DirectX Ver 9.0c, Media Player 9 (10 if you
> prefer), and Service Pack 2(SP2).
>
> 2) Reboot you computer and Install DirectX
>
> 3) Reboot again and install Windows Media Player
>
> 4) Reboot yet again and install Service Pack 2
>
> 5) Reboot one more time
>
> Yes it sounds very tedious, but if you want to be certain all file locks are
> removed so that the correct files can be installed this is the way you have to
> go.
>
> It is very important that you only download the full versions of these programs
> and that you DO NOT attempt an install over the internet.
>
> Other Notes
> ===========
> Graphic Card Acceleration
> -------------------------
>
> There is advice floating around that you should disable the graphics
> acceleration abilities of your graphics card if Movie Maker locks up or crashes
> out. Doing this is roughly equivalent to taking out your current graphics card
> and replacing it with an Etch-o-Sketch toy.
>
> The Graphics card on the machine I edit on is a cut above the average, it has
> DV In & Out as well as Video In & Out. It does all sorts of clever things and
> it is extremely fast. Then the day came when I tried Movie Maker 2 for the
> first time. It was a disaster. Knowing what the problem was I immediately
> logged on to Microsoft and got the latest driver. There was no change with the
> performance of the Graphics card with respect to Movie Maker. After a lot of
> messing about I went to the cards manufacturer and downloaded there most recent
> driver. I was convinced that the one from Microsoft was in some way defective.
> It turned out that I was right but for the wrong reason.
>
> The version of the driver from Microsoft was more recent than the one on my
> system AND more recent than the one from the OEM.BUT, the OEM had made minor
> changes to how the card worked and these were not taken into consideration by
> the Microsoft update!!!
>
> So, do not get the generic update from Microsoft until you have tried the
> latest driver from the manufacturer of your card.
>
> Registration
> ------------
>
> There is in my view some very bad advice floating around that tells you to
> unregister the offending codec. If you take this advise be warned that
> unregistering any file and doing it wrong will more than likely stop the
> program that file belongs to from working all together and may in an extreme
> situation cause your entire XP system to fail. This is true whether you make a
> mistake using the Registry editor or the registration program itself, one
> mistake and you are potentially in deep trouble. Whatever you unregister in
> this manner has to be restored and you should take note that the registration
> of a codec can often involve more than one registry entry. If you are expert in
> these matters you will have no problem.
>
> I have also found that MP3, Mpeg and Jpeg files can cause problems, So...
>
> Convert all MP3 to WAV or WMA
>
> Convert all MPeg to AVI
>
> Convert all Jpeg to BMP
>
> Video Conversion
> ------------------------
>
> For Video Conversion you should also check out the Knowledge Base Section of my
> "Great Links > Knowledge Base" One of the website's in there called "Video
> Help" has the best collection of useful information I have yet come across on
> converting between the various formats together with links to the software
> needed.
>
> Image Size
> ----------------
> There is a lot of very bad advice being given out on Aspect Ratios in relation
> to still images. The short version of the advice you actually need is this.
>
> 16:9
> -----
> If you want a 16:9 ratio final product (video) you should crop your image to
> the ratio of 16:9. In addition (talking in terms of PAL) you should use your
> favourite image editor to resize the image so that is 576 pixels tall...the
> width takes care of itself if you cropped it to 16:9.
>
> 4:3
> ---
> If you want a 4:3 picture (older style TV screen) then crop it to that ratio,
> then resize the image so that its height is......576 (Pal mewasurement), again
> the width takes care of itself.
>
> Weird Sizes
> -----------------
> Under no circumstances should you EVER create or resize an image so thats its
> dimensions are something like 800 x 600....if you do you will get a slightly
> blured image...and no amount of tinkering around the edges will ever put it
> right. See the FAQ on Movie Maker and Ratio on my website for a more detailed
> example of why that image will blur.
>
> ---
> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
> Just glad I don't live in Croydon, UK
> \|||/
> (o o)
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> All material gained from other sources is duly acknowledged. No Value is
> obtained by publishing in any format other peoples work
>
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Re: Transferred movie (from Digital Camera) wrongly playbacked on
Posted: 10-06-2004, 03:34 PM
Hello,

Your best option will be to go to the Microsoft web site and download the
latest codecs from there...just do a search on the microsoft site for "Ver 9
Codec"

If your system has a rogue codec, its almost certainly there because of some
other 3rd party program...like an old dvd player program.....your best defence
is to see if the advanced tab in movie makes any difference...I hear that it
does not solve the problems for quite a few people...which is where my Rename
Codec program comes into play.

Best of luck with it
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www.the-kellys.co.uk
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