Virtual PC's XP transfer to Boot Camp?

Posted: 08-12-2006, 10:17 AM
Hi.
I have Virtual PC with XP and I am soon to upgrade my computer to a
iMac or MacPro. I'd like to take my copy of XP with me to this new
computer for use with Parallels or Boot Camp, but I've heard there is
no simple way of moving it over. Is their a solution to this? I'm
hoping I don't have to buy a new copy of XP - something I already
thought I bought with Virtual PC.
Many thanks for any thoughts.

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Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Virtual PC's XP transfer to Boot Camp?
Posted: 08-12-2006, 03:04 PM
The copy of Windows that came with your VPC is only licensed for
installation in VPC, which of course will only run on a Power PC Mac. It is
not transferable to a standalone installation in a partition on your Intel
Mac. You will need a standard XP SP2 retail license.

<andrewjffox@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi.
> I have Virtual PC with XP and I am soon to upgrade my computer to a
> iMac or MacPro. I'd like to take my copy of XP with me to this new
> computer for use with Parallels or Boot Camp, but I've heard there is
> no simple way of moving it over. Is their a solution to this? I'm
> hoping I don't have to buy a new copy of XP - something I already
> thought I bought with Virtual PC.
> Many thanks for any thoughts.
>

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andrewjffox@gmail.com
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Re: Virtual PC's XP transfer to Boot Camp?
Posted: 08-12-2006, 03:42 PM
That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
I think most people believe when they buy VPC, they're buying a copy of
XP too. I had no idea it was a hobbled version. I didn't even know
there a way of buying VPC without XP.
Obviously I did not read the VPC box as much as I should.
Is there any way to 'upgrade' to a normal copy of XP? While I
understand the terms, it seems a bit strange to have to buy it twice...?

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Posted: 08-12-2006, 05:21 PM
In article <1155397332.060352.144900@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>,
andrewjffox@gmail.com wrote:
> That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
> I think most people believe when they buy VPC, they're buying a copy of
> XP too. I had no idea it was a hobbled version. I didn't even know
> there a way of buying VPC without XP.
> Obviously I did not read the VPC box as much as I should.
> Is there any way to 'upgrade' to a normal copy of XP? While I
> understand the terms, it seems a bit strange to have to buy it twice...?
You idea of having Microsoft offer an upgrade license for VPC to full XP
seems to be a good one. Why not write to Bill or Steve Balmer and make
that recommendation. It would do a lot more good that just mentioning
it here. Maybe some enterprising Microsoft marketing person might read
your letter and run with it.

And, btw, being screwed by a company's licensing agreements are nothing
new. How many times have you had to buy a copy of your favorite movie
when the format changed or you needed a "working" copy for a car trip?
Surely you didn't make an unauthorized copy and bought a new one?

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Posted: 08-12-2006, 05:23 PM
In article <1155397332.060352.144900@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>,
andrewjffox@gmail.com wrote:
> That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
I think it's basically the same as the licensing terms you get when you
buy a PC that has Windows preloaded on it. It's the standard OEM
license. If you want a copy of Windows that can be installed on any PC,
you have to buy it by itself.

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Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Virtual PC's XP transfer to Boot Camp?
Posted: 08-12-2006, 05:33 PM
You did buy a copy of XP, but just like people do when they buy a new pc
with Windows preinstalled. They get an OEM license which is good only on
the computer on which that copy of Windows has been installed. OEM licenses
are not transferable to another computer either. It is the drawback in
saving some money by not buying the retail edition of Windows. In your
case, you bought a bundled copy of XP and the license is only good for use
in VPC.

Additional licenses are not sold for bundled editions of Windows. They are
only available for retail editions (except under volume licensing
agreements, which does not apply to your situation). They are not much of a
bargain anyway, since you can buy retail copies of XP in the marketplace
cheaper than the cost of an additional license purchased from MS. The
savings for a second license is only a few dollars.

<andrewjffox@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
> I think most people believe when they buy VPC, they're buying a copy of
> XP too. I had no idea it was a hobbled version. I didn't even know
> there a way of buying VPC without XP.
> Obviously I did not read the VPC box as much as I should.
> Is there any way to 'upgrade' to a normal copy of XP? While I
> understand the terms, it seems a bit strange to have to buy it twice...?
>

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Re: Virtual PC's XP transfer to Boot Camp?
Posted: 08-12-2006, 08:39 PM
Thanks for all the messages.
Do people from MacBU not look at these groups?
Seems a shame if they don't.

I've been looking around at other sites, and I've read a couple of
stories of people managing to get cheap upgrades from MS. Anyone have
experience of that?
Ta.

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Posted: 08-12-2006, 08:59 PM
<andrewjffox@gmail.com> wrote:
> That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
> I think most people believe when they buy VPC, they're buying a copy of
> XP too. I had no idea it was a hobbled version. I didn't even know
> there a way of buying VPC without XP.
> Obviously I did not read the VPC box as much as I should.
> Is there any way to 'upgrade' to a normal copy of XP? While I
> understand the terms, it seems a bit strange to have to buy it twice...?
Google strikes again. There is an energetic discussion about this in
another thread in this newsgroup.

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Helpful Harry
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Posted: 08-13-2006, 12:11 AM
In article <barmar-38734A.13233712082006@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <1155397332.060352.144900@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>,
> andrewjffox@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
>
> I think it's basically the same as the licensing terms you get when you
> buy a PC that has Windows preloaded on it. It's the standard OEM
> license. If you want a copy of Windows that can be installed on any PC,
> you have to buy it by itself.
It's no different for the Mac OS either - when you buy a Mac it comes
with the install disks / CDs / DVDs for the latest verion of the Mac oS
at the time. Those installs disks are ONLY for use with that Mac and
it's illegal (and some case impossible) to use them to upgrade any
other Macs you may have. If you want to upgrade the other Macs, then
you have to buy a retail boxed copy of the Mac OS with enough licenses
for as many Macs that you want to upgrade.

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Re: Virtual PC's XP transfer to Boot Camp?
Posted: 08-13-2006, 05:57 AM
In article <1hjyp2k.3e6bk07lh6fyN%massello@newsguy.com>,
massello@newsguy.com (Neill Massello) wrote:
> <andrewjffox@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That seems quite a severe licensing term, no?
> > I think most people believe when they buy VPC, they're buying a copy of
> > XP too. I had no idea it was a hobbled version. I didn't even know
> > there a way of buying VPC without XP.
> > Obviously I did not read the VPC box as much as I should.
> > Is there any way to 'upgrade' to a normal copy of XP? While I
> > understand the terms, it seems a bit strange to have to buy it twice...?
>
> Google strikes again. There is an energetic discussion about this in
> another thread in this newsgroup.
Yeah, but the OP for this thread isn't whiney nor do they seem to have
the sense of entitlement in the other thread.

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