Vista Advanced Firewall

Posted: 01-14-2008, 08:15 PM
In Vista Ultimate I seem to have enabled in some way the advanced firewall.

Does anyone know how to go back to the basic firewall - i.e. disable the
advanced one

Having done that, how indeed to you actually enable the advanced one, as I
do not remember doing it in the first place

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Ray

Vista Advanced Firewall


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Nick /////
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-14-2008, 09:25 PM
"RayG" <noone@nowhere.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> In Vista Ultimate I seem to have enabled in some way the advanced
> firewall.
>
> Does anyone know how to go back to the basic firewall - i.e. disable the
> advanced one
>
> Having done that, how indeed to you actually enable the advanced one, as I
> do not remember doing it in the first place
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ray
Firstly I think you are a little confused.

There is only one Vista Firewall.

The difference is the level of control.

The Basic control is via "Start\Programs\Accessories\Control Panel\Windows
Firewall"

The Advanced control is via "Start\Programs\Administrative Tools\Windows
Firewall with Advanced Security"

The Advanced bit is basically allowing much more granular control. Basic is
just that. If you like Basic provides a selection of common or preset
rules.

Nick /////

Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 08:22 AM
You get that if you are behind a server and on a domain profile.

You are still either confused... or you've been hit with malware that is
controlling your firewall.



RayG wrote:
> Nick ///// wrote:
>> "RayG" <noone@nowhere.invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:A0B90644-A52E-45CC-A7C4-4BEDC53E3593@microsoft.com...
>>> In Vista Ultimate I seem to have enabled in some way the advanced
>>> firewall.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how to go back to the basic firewall - i.e. disable
>>> the advanced one
>>>
>>> Having done that, how indeed to you actually enable the advanced
>>> one, as I do not remember doing it in the first place
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Ray
>>
>> Firstly I think you are a little confused.
>>
>> There is only one Vista Firewall.
>>
>> The difference is the level of control.
>>
>> The Basic control is via "Start\Programs\Accessories\Control
>> Panel\Windows Firewall"
>>
>> The Advanced control is via "Start\Programs\Administrative
>> Tools\Windows Firewall with Advanced Security"
>>
>> The Advanced bit is basically allowing much more granular control.
>> Basic is just that. If you like Basic provides a selection of common
>> or preset rules.
>>
>> Nick /////
> Nick,
>
> No, not confused - once you have the advanced one activated it seem you
> cannot go back to the basic version or at least I have not been able to
> find a way so far
>
> How do I get rid you the yellow banner an allowed the greyed out options
> to function?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
BillD
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RE: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 10:38 AM
open the start menu and type this word: firewall.
you'll see these 2 items:
- Windows Firewall
- Windows Firewall with advanced security

you can modify the firewall's rules using the basic interface or the
advanced interface.
RayG
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 11:13 AM
Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
> You get that if you are behind a server and on a domain profile.
>
> You are still either confused... or you've been hit with malware that
> is controlling your firewall.
>
>
>
> RayG wrote:
>> Nick ///// wrote:
>>> "RayG" <noone@nowhere.invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:A0B90644-A52E-45CC-A7C4-4BEDC53E3593@microsoft.com...
>>>> In Vista Ultimate I seem to have enabled in some way the advanced
>>>> firewall.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know how to go back to the basic firewall - i.e.
>>>> disable the advanced one
>>>>
>>>> Having done that, how indeed to you actually enable the advanced
>>>> one, as I do not remember doing it in the first place
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>
>>> Firstly I think you are a little confused.
>>>
>>> There is only one Vista Firewall.
>>>
>>> The difference is the level of control.
>>>
>>> The Basic control is via "Start\Programs\Accessories\Control
>>> Panel\Windows Firewall"
>>>
>>> The Advanced control is via "Start\Programs\Administrative
>>> Tools\Windows Firewall with Advanced Security"
>>>
>>> The Advanced bit is basically allowing much more granular control.
>>> Basic is just that. If you like Basic provides a selection of
>>> common or preset rules.
>>>
>>> Nick /////
>> Nick,
>>
>> No, not confused - once you have the advanced one activated it seem
>> you cannot go back to the basic version or at least I have not been
>> able to find a way so far
>>
>> How do I get rid you the yellow banner an allowed the greyed out
>> options to function?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
No, No malware and not connected to a domain

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Ray
RayG
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 11:17 AM
BillD wrote:
> open the start menu and type this word: firewall.
> you'll see these 2 items:
> - Windows Firewall
> - Windows Firewall with advanced security
>
> you can modify the firewall's rules using the basic interface or the
> advanced interface.
No sorry you cannot turn off the firewall if it is in advanced mode from the
basic screen

See image attached to my reply to Nick///

What I want to know is how to turn off advanced mode and conversly how to
turn it on outside of being connected to a domain.

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Regards

Ray

Kerry Brown
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 03:08 PM
>
> No, No malware and not connected to a domain
>

In the Network and Sharing Center is the network Public, Private, or Domain?
If it's Public or Domain there's your problem. If it's Private then try
running secpol.msc. Change all of the settings in the Private profile to Not
configured then reboot. If this doesn't fix it then it is very likely you do
have some malware installed.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



RayG
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 03:41 PM
Kerry Brown wrote:
>> No, No malware and not connected to a domain
>>
>
>
> In the Network and Sharing Center is the network Public, Private, or
> Domain? If it's Public or Domain there's your problem. If it's
> Private then try running secpol.msc. Change all of the settings in
> the Private profile to Not configured then reboot. If this doesn't
> fix it then it is very likely you do have some malware installed.
Kerry,

Ah! I think you may have hit the nail on the head.

I have VMware installed in this system and it has its IP addresses in the
"Public" space and no matter what I try to do I cannot get them to stay in
the "Private" space. Is there a trick in Vista that I am missing?

Network Properties shows

192.168.10 - PC
192.168.102 - VMware
192.169.109 - VMware

and my ethernet adapter is listed in both private and public.

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Ray

Nick /////
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-15-2008, 10:07 PM
"RayG" <noone@nowhere.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> No sorry you cannot turn off the firewall if it is in advanced mode from
> the basic screen
>
> See image attached to my reply to Nick///
>
> What I want to know is how to turn off advanced mode and conversly how to
> turn it on outside of being connected to a domain.
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Ray
Open up "Firewall with Advanced Control"

Select top item in left hand pane and the central pane should be titled
"Windows Firewall With Advanced Security on Local Computer" (Note the Local)
Below this the central window should be "Overview"
In this you should see 3 profile with one marked as "Active".

Which is your Active profile? For a normal home lan and router setup your
profile should/will be "Private"

On any profile there are 3 active lines: Normal default values are:
o Windows Firewall Is On
o Inbound connections that do match rule are blocked
o Outbound connections that do match rule are allowed

If you deviate from these then you could say that you have enabled the
Advanced Firewall.

Last item on this central pane below the profiles is a hotlink "Windows
Firewall Properties"
Following this will take you to the control that affect the 3 active lines
mentioned above. ie. you want:

o Firewall state ON
o Inbound Block - default
o Outbound Allow - default

Open Up the Normal Windows Firewall Control and you want to set: (do/check
in order listed)

Advance Tab - Check ALL network connections listed are ticked
Exceptions - At LEAST Core Networking and Network Discovery should be ticked
(you may have others)
General - You should be On or Even Off

Going back to Profiles. If you are on an Active Domain profile, or Public
profile then I as yet have no experience of these. Certainly in Domain
profile then the level of control you have is determined by the domain
set-up/controller, be that a person or a machine or remote administration.

If nothing else hopefully the above will give you some idea as to what most
home set-ups see.

Nick /////



Kerry Brown
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Re: Vista Advanced Firewall
Posted: 01-16-2008, 04:32 AM
"RayG" <noone@nowhere.invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>> No, No malware and not connected to a domain
>>>
>>
>>
>> In the Network and Sharing Center is the network Public, Private, or
>> Domain? If it's Public or Domain there's your problem. If it's
>> Private then try running secpol.msc. Change all of the settings in
>> the Private profile to Not configured then reboot. If this doesn't
>> fix it then it is very likely you do have some malware installed.
>
> Kerry,
>
> Ah! I think you may have hit the nail on the head.
>
> I have VMware installed in this system and it has its IP addresses in the
> "Public" space and no matter what I try to do I cannot get them to stay in
> the "Private" space. Is there a trick in Vista that I am missing?
>
> Network Properties shows
>
> 192.168.10 - PC
> 192.168.102 - VMware
> 192.169.109 - VMware
>
> and my ethernet adapter is listed in both private and public.
>

Is Vista running in a virtual machine?

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Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



 
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