VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ????

Posted: 02-27-2007, 03:56 PM
Hi. I have a 250gb harddrive and a split it...
I need to know if it is posible to instal VISTA on "C:\" and XP Pro on
"D:\", and choose wich windows I'm gonna use when i boot mi PC.

If it is posible how can i do it ? Should i run both setup like always ? I
need to configurate something ?

Thanks in advance =)
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Chad Harris
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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ???? XP first install if you dual boot.
Posted: 02-27-2007, 04:06 PM
Crash--

It is and thousands of people have done it. I absolutely like the idea of a
dual boot because then I can shortcut to my XP desktop from Vista.

One thing to be sure of though form the way you said this; make sure that
you install XP Pro first. I'd install XP Pro first on C:\ then Vista on D:\
or whichever drive you make for it. You can use the drive letters you want.
But again, make sure you install the older OS first or you could have
significant trouble and there is an MSKB to recover from it but it's not
100%. Whatever drive you install XP on, try to setup Vista from the XP
desktop, then your drive letters will remain the same. If you set Vista up
from a restart, that's fine, but the bios will change your drive letters.
Make sure you have a clear target drive/partition for Vista, and that you
have about 350MB of free space on the XP drive to install Vista.

The other issue discussed well on the general group, is that because of
volsnap.sys driver, if you dual boot, youwill lose your Vista system restore
points and backup unless you hide the Vista drive from XP. There is more
than one way to do this, but bit locker is used by a lot of people if they
have an edition with it --Business and Ultimate.

I shortcut to my XP desktop from Vista--if XP is on C:\ then it would be
C:\Documents and Settings\Crash's profile name/Desktop and drag the folder
icon at the top of the name bar to the Vista desktop as a shortcut. That
way I don't have to transfer GBs of files and folders I want to access
unless I want some faves actually on Vista and then I just drag and drop.

CH




"Crash Override" <Crash Override@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi. I have a 250gb harddrive and a split it...
> I need to know if it is posible to instal VISTA on "C:\" and XP Pro on
> "D:\", and choose wich windows I'm gonna use when i boot mi PC.
>
> If it is posible how can i do it ? Should i run both setup like always ? I
> need to configurate something ?
>
> Thanks in advance =)

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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ???? XP first install if you dual boot.
Posted: 02-27-2007, 09:04 PM

">
> I shortcut to my XP desktop from Vista--if XP is on C:\ then it would be
> C:\Documents and Settings\Crash's profile name/Desktop and drag the folder
> icon at the top of the name bar to the Vista desktop as a shortcut. That
> way I don't have to transfer GBs of files and folders I want to access
> unless I want some faves actually on Vista and then I just drag and drop.
>
> CH
>

Thanks for the tip - gotta do that one.

Bob S.



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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ???? XP first install if you dual boot.
Posted: 02-28-2007, 12:36 AM
It works well. The obvious reasons are Bob, XP has been at the forefront
now for 6 years. A large number of people user it as their Windows version.
So they have had stable systems for a long time, and done much work on them.
If space is a consideration, then they don't need to drag and drop or copy
folders or move them to Vista, although we all have our "can't do withouts"
and if they don't take much real estate, why not?

Let's say you have XP on C and Vista on E. If you installed Vista from XP's
desktop (setup on XP desktop) your drive letters won't change. If you
restart,they will. But when you're on the XP boot, they will be normal as
they originally were, but if you setup and instaled Vista from a restart,
then the Bios will have changed drive letters. When on Vista, Vista will be
C:\. XP will be on D:\; D will become E:\ and F will be F.

You can easily shortcut from the XP desktop to Vista--you just type in
E:\(or whatever drive it would be) \Users\Your profile\Desktop.

You can't access OE mail from Vista and I don't know a way of merging OE and
Win Mail, but what you can do is you can save the OE mail or folders you
want, and drag and drop or move them to the Vista desktop. Since I use OE
and Outlook to send important phone numbers, data, and hdw software tips,
buisness files and tips, this comes in handy. You can merge Outlook though,

You can merge your Outlook folders and mail with two Outlooks on each boot
though:

1. In Outlook, click on Tools, E-mail Accounts, then click the Next button
2. Click View or Change, then Next
3. In the Delivery New E-mails section,
4. Click the New Outlook Data File button
5. Click OK, then browse to the shared .pst file.
6. Click Ok, then Finish.

CH

"BobS" <no-spam@noplace.com> wrote in message
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>
> ">
>> I shortcut to my XP desktop from Vista--if XP is on C:\ then it would be
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Crash's profile name/Desktop and drag the
>> folder icon at the top of the name bar to the Vista desktop as a
>> shortcut. That way I don't have to transfer GBs of files and folders I
>> want to access unless I want some faves actually on Vista and then I just
>> drag and drop.
>>
>> CH
>>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip - gotta do that one.
>
> Bob S.
>
>
>

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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ???? XP first install if you dual boot.
Posted: 02-28-2007, 01:26 AM
Thank you, some good info.

Bob S.


"Chad Harris" <fixvistabugsnow.net> wrote in message
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> It works well. The obvious reasons are Bob, XP has been at the forefront
> now for 6 years. A large number of people user it as their Windows
> version. So they have had stable systems for a long time, and done much
> work on them. If space is a consideration, then they don't need to drag
> and drop or copy folders or move them to Vista, although we all have our
> "can't do withouts" and if they don't take much real estate, why not?
>
> Let's say you have XP on C and Vista on E. If you installed Vista from
> XP's desktop (setup on XP desktop) your drive letters won't change. If
> you restart,they will. But when you're on the XP boot, they will be
> normal as they originally were, but if you setup and instaled Vista from a
> restart, then the Bios will have changed drive letters. When on Vista,
> Vista will be C:\. XP will be on D:\; D will become E:\ and F will be F.
>
> You can easily shortcut from the XP desktop to Vista--you just type in
> E:\(or whatever drive it would be) \Users\Your profile\Desktop.
>
> You can't access OE mail from Vista and I don't know a way of merging OE
> and Win Mail, but what you can do is you can save the OE mail or folders
> you want, and drag and drop or move them to the Vista desktop. Since I use
> OE and Outlook to send important phone numbers, data, and hdw software
> tips, buisness files and tips, this comes in handy. You can merge Outlook
> though,
>
> You can merge your Outlook folders and mail with two Outlooks on each boot
> though:
>
> 1. In Outlook, click on Tools, E-mail Accounts, then click the Next button
> 2. Click View or Change, then Next
> 3. In the Delivery New E-mails section,
> 4. Click the New Outlook Data File button
> 5. Click OK, then browse to the shared .pst file.
> 6. Click Ok, then Finish.
>
> CH
>
> "BobS" <no-spam@noplace.com> wrote in message
> news:uD4LVLrWHHA.5068@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>> ">
>>> I shortcut to my XP desktop from Vista--if XP is on C:\ then it would be
>>> C:\Documents and Settings\Crash's profile name/Desktop and drag the
>>> folder icon at the top of the name bar to the Vista desktop as a
>>> shortcut. That way I don't have to transfer GBs of files and folders I
>>> want to access unless I want some faves actually on Vista and then I
>>> just drag and drop.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the tip - gotta do that one.
>>
>> Bob S.
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ????
Posted: 02-28-2007, 08:18 AM
"Crash Override" <Crash Override@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> Hi. I have a 250gb harddrive and a split it...
> I need to know if it is posible to instal VISTA on "C:\" and XP Pro on
> "D:\", and choose wich windows I'm gonna use when i boot mi PC.
>
> If it is posible how can i do it ? Should i run both setup like always ? I
> need to configurate something ?
One other issue to be aware of with respect to licensing in a dual boot
situation. You cannot per the Vista license dual boot XP and Vista if Vista
is an upgrade version and XP is the qualifying OS used for the upgrade. You
will need to get a full version of Vista, or have two licenses for XP, one
as the qualifying OS to use an upgrade version of Vista, and one for the XP
installation in the dual boot.

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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ????
Posted: 03-13-2007, 06:31 AM
Good info; makes sense. I hadn't thought about that but I'm sure it's an
issue a number of people might ahve to consider. I know that most people
say dual boots are relatively rare in the scheme of things and that probably
is correct; but in the subset of computer enthusiasts, developers, IT pros,
etc. I bet they are considerably higher.

Maybe VMware is and will cut into the need for dual boots and multiboots
moving out in the future; not sure.

CH

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Crash Override" <Crash Override@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>> Hi. I have a 250gb harddrive and a split it...
>> I need to know if it is posible to instal VISTA on "C:\" and XP Pro on
>> "D:\", and choose wich windows I'm gonna use when i boot mi PC.
>>
>> If it is posible how can i do it ? Should i run both setup like always ?
>> I
>> need to configurate something ?
>
> One other issue to be aware of with respect to licensing in a dual boot
> situation. You cannot per the Vista license dual boot XP and Vista if
> Vista is an upgrade version and XP is the qualifying OS used for the
> upgrade. You will need to get a full version of Vista, or have two
> licenses for XP, one as the qualifying OS to use an upgrade version of
> Vista, and one for the XP installation in the dual boot.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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Re: VISTA & XP Pro TOGETHER ????
Posted: 03-16-2007, 01:05 AM
"Chad Harris" <fixvistabugsnow.net> wrote
> Good info; makes sense. I hadn't thought about that but I'm sure it's an
> issue a number of people might ahve to consider. I know that most people
> say dual boots are relatively rare in the scheme of things and that
> probably is correct; but in the subset of computer enthusiasts,
> developers, IT pros, etc. I bet they are considerably higher.
>
> Maybe VMware is and will cut into the need for dual boots and multiboots
> moving out in the future; not sure.
> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote
>> "Crash Override" <Crash Override@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>>> Hi. I have a 250gb harddrive and a split it...
>>> I need to know if it is posible to instal VISTA on "C:\" and XP Pro on
>>> "D:\", and choose wich windows I'm gonna use when i boot mi PC.
>>>
>>> If it is posible how can i do it ? Should i run both setup like always ?
>>> I
>>> need to configurate something ?
>>
>> One other issue to be aware of with respect to licensing in a dual boot
>> situation. You cannot per the Vista license dual boot XP and Vista if
>> Vista is an upgrade version and XP is the qualifying OS used for the
>> upgrade. You will need to get a full version of Vista, or have two
>> licenses for XP, one as the qualifying OS to use an upgrade version of
>> Vista, and one for the XP installation in the dual boot.
I don't believe, per the license, you can run the qualifying OS in a virtual
environment either, if the Vista upgrade is installed.

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