Vista changed folders to shortcuts - now access is denied
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> THIRD time trying to post this - site is refusing posts?
>
> Any way,
> For some unknwon reason, Vista decided to change several important folder
> into shortcuts and when trying to access them, I get "...c:\foldername\...
> is
> not accesible Access is denied."
>
> Most importantly the following folders of the loggged-on user are
> inaccesible and access is nedied:
>
> User\Documents\...
> My Videos
> My Music
> My Pictures
>
> also... Folders such as
>
> Application Data
> Cookies
> Local Settings
> NetHood
> PrintHood
> Recent
> are shortcuts now and access is denied.
>
> also,
>
> off the root c:\ the following were changed and inaccesible
> Documents and Settings
> Users\All Isers
> Users\Default User
>
> As it stands, I can get more use from my $1.99 hand-held calculator than I
> can from this $2k machine with Vista.
>
>
> Shell
>
> This is a common problem for users that are looking for the same folder
> structure in Vista that were used to seeing in XP.
>
> The folders you are looking at that appear to be shortcuts are called a
> Junction or Symbolic Link. These folders are used for backward
> compatibility, mostly for installation programs that are looking for an old
> system folder location. They appear where a system folder location, that was
> part of a previous version of Windows, has been changed in Vista. When an
> older installation program is installed, these folders will redirect the
> installation program to the proper folder in Vista. These folders contain no
> user information.
>
> You can use a command prompt to locate the new folder that the Junction
> points to.
>
> Press WINKEY+R and type cmd and press OK.
>
> The command window should open at the C:\Users\<username> folder.
>
> Type: dir /ahL and press the ENTER key. (Note the space in the
> command)
>
> The result will be a list of folders on the C: drive, here is an example.
>
> <date> <time> <JUNCTION> SendTo
> [C:\Users\<username>AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\SendTo]
>
> This shows the old name of the folder (SendTo) with the path to the new
> location in brackets.
>
> It would be a good idea to print this list for future reference.
>
>
> For reference, Here is the list of Junctions for a standard, clean
> installation of Vista Ultimate on the C: drive. Office 2007 is installed.
> Your results may be different because of different software being installed.
>
> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
>
> C:\Users\username>dir /ahl
>
> Directory of C:\Users\<username>
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Application Data
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Cookies
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Cookies]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Local Settings
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> My Documents [C:\Users\<username>\Documents]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> NetHood
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Network Shortcuts]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> PrintHood
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Printer Shortcuts]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Recent
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Recent]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> SendTo
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\SendTo]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Start Menu
> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Start Menu]
>
> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION>
> TEMPLATE[C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Templates
>
>
> (Where "<username>" is the name of the account you are currently logged onto
> the system with.)
>
> The "My" designation for a user folder has been retired, so the old "My"
> Documents is now called simply Documents.
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B419E839-84F2-4562-A892-75719880F301@microsoft.com...> > THIRD time trying to post this - site is refusing posts?>
> >
> > Any way,
> > For some unknwon reason, Vista decided to change several important folder
> > into shortcuts and when trying to access them, I get "...c:\foldername\...
> > is
> > not accesible Access is denied."
> >
> > Most importantly the following folders of the loggged-on user are
> > inaccesible and access is nedied:
> >
> > User\Documents\...
> > My Videos
> > My Music
> > My Pictures
> >
> > also... Folders such as
> >
> > Application Data
> > Cookies
> > Local Settings
> > NetHood
> > PrintHood
> > Recent
> > are shortcuts now and access is denied.
> >
> > also,
> >
> > off the root c:\ the following were changed and inaccesible
> > Documents and Settings
> > Users\All Isers
> > Users\Default User
> >
> > As it stands, I can get more use from my $1.99 hand-held calculator than I
> > can from this $2k machine with Vista.
> >
> >
> Informative response on junctions -- thanks. Now, remaining question is
> whether or not these can be safely deleted?
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>>> Shell
>>
>> This is a common problem for users that are looking for the same folder
>> structure in Vista that were used to seeing in XP.
>>
>> The folders you are looking at that appear to be shortcuts are called a
>> Junction or Symbolic Link. These folders are used for backward
>> compatibility, mostly for installation programs that are looking for an
>> old
>> system folder location. They appear where a system folder location, that
>> was
>> part of a previous version of Windows, has been changed in Vista. When an
>> older installation program is installed, these folders will redirect the
>> installation program to the proper folder in Vista. These folders contain
>> no
>> user information.
>>
>> You can use a command prompt to locate the new folder that the Junction
>> points to.
>>
>> Press WINKEY+R and type cmd and press OK.
>>
>> The command window should open at the C:\Users\<username> folder.
>>
>> Type: dir /ahL and press the ENTER key. (Note the space in the
>> command)
>>
>> The result will be a list of folders on the C: drive, here is an example.
>>
>> <date> <time> <JUNCTION> SendTo
>> [C:\Users\<username>AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\SendTo]
>>
>> This shows the old name of the folder (SendTo) with the path to the new
>> location in brackets.
>>
>> It would be a good idea to print this list for future reference.
>>
>>
>> For reference, Here is the list of Junctions for a standard, clean
>> installation of Vista Ultimate on the C: drive. Office 2007 is installed.
>> Your results may be different because of different software being
>> installed.
>>
>> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
>>
>> C:\Users\username>dir /ahl
>>
>> Directory of C:\Users\<username>
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Application Data
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Cookies
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Cookies]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Local Settings
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> My Documents
>> [C:\Users\<username>\Documents]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> NetHood
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Network Shortcuts]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> PrintHood
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Printer Shortcuts]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Recent
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Recent]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> SendTo
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\SendTo]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Start Menu
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Start Menu]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION>
>> TEMPLATE[C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Templates
>>
>>
>> (Where "<username>" is the name of the account you are currently logged
>> onto
>> the system with.)
>>
>> The "My" designation for a user folder has been retired, so the old "My"
>> Documents is now called simply Documents.
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B419E839-84F2-4562-A892-75719880F301@microsoft.com...>> > THIRD time trying to post this - site is refusing posts?>>
>> >
>> > Any way,
>> > For some unknwon reason, Vista decided to change several important
>> > folder
>> > into shortcuts and when trying to access them, I get
>> > "...c:\foldername\...
>> > is
>> > not accesible Access is denied."
>> >
>> > Most importantly the following folders of the loggged-on user are
>> > inaccesible and access is nedied:
>> >
>> > User\Documents\...
>> > My Videos
>> > My Music
>> > My Pictures
>> >
>> > also... Folders such as
>> >
>> > Application Data
>> > Cookies
>> > Local Settings
>> > NetHood
>> > PrintHood
>> > Recent
>> > are shortcuts now and access is denied.
>> >
>> > also,
>> >
>> > off the root c:\ the following were changed and inaccesible
>> > Documents and Settings
>> > Users\All Isers
>> > Users\Default User
>> >
>> > As it stands, I can get more use from my $1.99 hand-held calculator
>> > than I
>> > can from this $2k machine with Vista.
>> >
>> >
> Shell<snip>
>
> This is a common problem for users that are looking for the same folder
> structure in Vista that were used to seeing in XP.
>
> The folders you are looking at that appear to be shortcuts are called a
> Junction or Symbolic Link. These folders are used for backward
> compatibility, mostly for installation programs that are looking for an old
> system folder location. They appear where a system folder location, that was
> part of a previous version of Windows, has been changed in Vista. When an
> older installation program is installed, these folders will redirect the
> installation program to the proper folder in Vista. These folders contain no
> user information.
>
> You can use a command prompt to locate the new folder that the Junction
> points to.
>
> Press WINKEY+R and type cmd and press OK.
>
> The command window should open at the C:\Users\<username> folder.
>
> Type: dir /ahL and press the ENTER key. (Note the space in the
> command)
>
> The result will be a list of folders on the C: drive, here is an example.
>
> <date> <time> <JUNCTION> SendTo
> [C:\Users\<username>AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\SendTo]
>
> This shows the old name of the folder (SendTo) with the path to the new
> location in brackets.
>
> It would be a good idea to print this list for future reference.
>
>
> For reference, Here is the list of Junctions for a standard, clean
> installation of Vista Ultimate on the C: drive. Office 2007 is installed.
> Your results may be different because of different software being installed.
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Informative response on junctions -- thanks. Now, remaining question is
> whether or not these can be safely deleted?
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>>> Shell
>>
>> This is a common problem for users that are looking for the same folder
>> structure in Vista that were used to seeing in XP.
>>
>> The folders you are looking at that appear to be shortcuts are called a
>> Junction or Symbolic Link. These folders are used for backward
>> compatibility, mostly for installation programs that are looking for an
>> old
>> system folder location. They appear where a system folder location, that
>> was
>> part of a previous version of Windows, has been changed in Vista. When an
>> older installation program is installed, these folders will redirect the
>> installation program to the proper folder in Vista. These folders contain
>> no
>> user information.
>>
>> You can use a command prompt to locate the new folder that the Junction
>> points to.
>>
>> Press WINKEY+R and type cmd and press OK.
>>
>> The command window should open at the C:\Users\<username> folder.
>>
>> Type: dir /ahL and press the ENTER key. (Note the space in the
>> command)
>>
>> The result will be a list of folders on the C: drive, here is an example.
>>
>> <date> <time> <JUNCTION> SendTo
>> [C:\Users\<username>AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\SendTo]
>>
>> This shows the old name of the folder (SendTo) with the path to the new
>> location in brackets.
>>
>> It would be a good idea to print this list for future reference.
>>
>>
>> For reference, Here is the list of Junctions for a standard, clean
>> installation of Vista Ultimate on the C: drive. Office 2007 is installed.
>> Your results may be different because of different software being
>> installed.
>>
>> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
>>
>> C:\Users\username>dir /ahl
>>
>> Directory of C:\Users\<username>
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Application Data
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Cookies
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Cookies]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Local Settings
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> My Documents
>> [C:\Users\<username>\Documents]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> NetHood
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Network Shortcuts]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> PrintHood
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Printer Shortcuts]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Recent
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Recent]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> SendTo
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\SendTo]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION> Start Menu
>> [C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Start Menu]
>>
>> 12/13/2006 03:15 PM <JUNCTION>
>> TEMPLATE[C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\Templates
>>
>>
>> (Where "<username>" is the name of the account you are currently logged
>> onto
>> the system with.)
>>
>> The "My" designation for a user folder has been retired, so the old "My"
>> Documents is now called simply Documents.
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:B419E839-84F2-4562-A892-75719880F301@microsoft.com...>> > THIRD time trying to post this - site is refusing posts?>>
>> >
>> > Any way,
>> > For some unknwon reason, Vista decided to change several important
>> > folder
>> > into shortcuts and when trying to access them, I get
>> > "...c:\foldername\...
>> > is
>> > not accesible Access is denied."
>> >
>> > Most importantly the following folders of the loggged-on user are
>> > inaccesible and access is nedied:
>> >
>> > User\Documents\...
>> > My Videos
>> > My Music
>> > My Pictures
>> >
>> > also... Folders such as
>> >
>> > Application Data
>> > Cookies
>> > Local Settings
>> > NetHood
>> > PrintHood
>> > Recent
>> > are shortcuts now and access is denied.
>> >
>> > also,
>> >
>> > off the root c:\ the following were changed and inaccesible
>> > Documents and Settings
>> > Users\All Isers
>> > Users\Default User
>> >
>> > As it stands, I can get more use from my $1.99 hand-held calculator
>> > than I
>> > can from this $2k machine with Vista.
>> >
>> >

> Mr. Vernon,
>
> Thank you so, so, so much!
>
> I was well aware of the junction issue, but couldn't find ANYWHERE on
> Microsoft's Knowledge Base or Product Solution Centers how to determine
> what
> junctions pointed where (besides the basic My Documents, My Music, etc.)
>
> I didn't have a choice about upgrading to Vista when I did, as my old
> computer's hard drive fried and the entire laptop was replaced under
> warranty. Thanks to a ridiculous daisy chain (Ubuntu boot disk on fried
> formerly-WinXP laptop, fiance's laptop running Mac OSX, my desktop running
> Win2000, and an external hard drive with NTFS partitions, none of which
> would
> talk to anything to which they were not directly connected), I had copies
> of
> all my data, but I was thus far unable to
> figure out how the heck to restore certain portions of my application
> data.
> Some of my programs (including one I need for one of my jobs) required
> manual
> movement of data into the appropriate directories (such as c:\documents
> and
> settings\[username]\application data) if one didn't want to completely
> start
> from scratch. Stupid library files.
>
> Anyway, you're now my hero. Thanks again for a clear, well-written,
> well-explained walkthrough detailing ALL the junction issues.
>
> Lessa1326
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>>> Shell>
>>
>> This is a common problem for users that are looking for the same folder
>> structure in Vista that were used to seeing in XP.
>>
>> The folders you are looking at that appear to be shortcuts are called a
>> Junction or Symbolic Link. These folders are used for backward
>> compatibility, mostly for installation programs that are looking for an
>> old
>> system folder location. They appear where a system folder location, that
>> was
>> part of a previous version of Windows, has been changed in Vista. When an
>> older installation program is installed, these folders will redirect the
>> installation program to the proper folder in Vista. These folders contain
>> no
>> user information.
>>
>> You can use a command prompt to locate the new folder that the Junction
>> points to.
>>
>> Press WINKEY+R and type cmd and press OK.
>>
>> The command window should open at the C:\Users\<username> folder.
>>
>> Type: dir /ahL and press the ENTER key. (Note the space in the
>> command)
>>
>> The result will be a list of folders on the C: drive, here is an example.
>>
>> <date> <time> <JUNCTION> SendTo
>> [C:\Users\<username>AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windo ws\SendTo]
>>
>> This shows the old name of the folder (SendTo) with the path to the new
>> location in brackets.
>>
>> It would be a good idea to print this list for future reference.
>>
>>
>> For reference, Here is the list of Junctions for a standard, clean
>> installation of Vista Ultimate on the C: drive. Office 2007 is installed.
>> Your results may be different because of different software being
>> installed.
> <snip>
>>>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
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