Vista domain join problem

> Sound like name resolution issue. Can you ping the DC by using FQDN?
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "JCB" <JCB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0CB5CD74-516F-4F04-8962-E42341E8C596@microsoft.com...
> In the past I have successfully performed domain joins/disjoins over a PPTP
> VPN connection for WinXP. I have been unsuccessful in joining a Vista
> Ultimate machine to the same domain. I receive an error informing me that
> the format of the domain name I am using is incorrect (the domain name is an
> unregistered private one of the form: companyname.llc, reflecting the LLC
> status of my company). I don't know if this is the source of the problem or
> not, but I also cannot reach network shares either.
>
> Even though I can establish the VPN connection from the Vista machine and
> establish RDP connections to remote hosts, I cannot access network resources
> via UNC paths - the error indicates the network path cannot be found - could
> this underlying problem also be the reason I cannot join the machine to the
> domain?
>
> Is there some inherent security in the Vista OS that I need to configure to
> permit the resolution of UNC paths and join the machine to the domain?
>
> Thanks for any solutions you may offer.
>
> J
> --
> JCB\1059

> Sound like name resolution issue. Can you ping the DC by using FQDN?
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
> "JCB" <JCB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:0CB5CD74-516F-4F04-8962-E42341E8C596@microsoft.com...
> In the past I have successfully performed domain joins/disjoins over a PPTP
> VPN connection for WinXP. I have been unsuccessful in joining a Vista
> Ultimate machine to the same domain. I receive an error informing me that
> the format of the domain name I am using is incorrect (the domain name is an
> unregistered private one of the form: companyname.llc, reflecting the LLC
> status of my company). I don't know if this is the source of the problem or
> not, but I also cannot reach network shares either.
>
> Even though I can establish the VPN connection from the Vista machine and
> establish RDP connections to remote hosts, I cannot access network resources
> via UNC paths - the error indicates the network path cannot be found - could
> this underlying problem also be the reason I cannot join the machine to the
> domain?
>
> Is there some inherent security in the Vista OS that I need to configure to
> permit the resolution of UNC paths and join the machine to the domain?
>
> Thanks for any solutions you may offer.
>
> J
> --
> JCB\1059

> In the past I have successfully performed domain joins/disjoins over a
> PPTP
> VPN connection for WinXP. I have been unsuccessful in joining a Vista
> Ultimate machine to the same domain. I receive an error informing me that
> the format of the domain name I am using is incorrect (the domain name is
> an
> unregistered private one of the form: companyname.llc, reflecting the LLC
> status of my company). I don't know if this is the source of the problem
> or
> not, but I also cannot reach network shares either.
>
> Even though I can establish the VPN connection from the Vista machine and
> establish RDP connections to remote hosts, I cannot access network
> resources
> via UNC paths - the error indicates the network path cannot be found -
> could
> this underlying problem also be the reason I cannot join the machine to
> the
> domain?
>
> Is there some inherent security in the Vista OS that I need to configure
> to
> permit the resolution of UNC paths and join the machine to the domain?
>
> Thanks for any solutions you may offer.
>

> Do you have a WINS server in the domain? Is the VPN connection set to use a
> DC on the domain for DNS and to use the WINS server for the domain? Is
> NETBIOS enabled on the VPN connection? When trying to join the domain are
> you using the NETBIOS name of the domain or the full name?
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>

>
>
> Do you have a WINS server in the domain? Is the VPN connection set to use a
> DC on the domain for DNS and to use the WINS server for the domain? Is
> NETBIOS enabled on the VPN connection? When trying to join the domain are
> you using the NETBIOS name of the domain or the full name?
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>

> THEY'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
>
> Kerry, because everything else I tried failed, I ended up enabling NetBIOS
> over TCP/IP on the adapters for both the DC and the machine I was
> attempting
> to join to the domain. The domian join was immediately successful AND UNC
> paths could be reached. Once joined, I disabled NETBT and the UNC paths
> were
> once again unreachable!
>
> Why is it that MS has encouraged removing WINS/NetBIOS from our domain,
> and
> now with the "latest and greatest" (sic) VISTA, it is again required!!!???
>
> Give me a friggin' break!
>
> Nevertheless, thank you for your suggestion to look at enabling NetBIOS on
> my NICS so that I could join the domain; problem solved.
>
> J
> --
>

>>
>>
>> Do you have a WINS server in the domain? Is the VPN connection set to use
>> a
>> DC on the domain for DNS and to use the WINS server for the domain? Is
>> NETBIOS enabled on the VPN connection? When trying to join the domain are
>> you using the NETBIOS name of the domain or the full name?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>

> I don't know why this is but I've run into the problem even without using a
> VPN. I recommend you setup a WINS server and enable NETBIOS. Many things
> will work better, Exchange and joining the domain are two. Enabling WINS
> uses very little resources and it cuts down on broadcast traffic. Despite
> the "best practice" of disabling NETBIOS things just work better when it is
> enabled.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "JCB" <JCB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:19075B24-306F-48D0-9B74-44746D5315DE@microsoft.com...

> > THEY'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!
> >
> > Kerry, because everything else I tried failed, I ended up enabling NetBIOS
> > over TCP/IP on the adapters for both the DC and the machine I was
> > attempting
> > to join to the domain. The domian join was immediately successful AND UNC
> > paths could be reached. Once joined, I disabled NETBT and the UNC paths
> > were
> > once again unreachable!
> >
> > Why is it that MS has encouraged removing WINS/NetBIOS from our domain,
> > and
> > now with the "latest and greatest" (sic) VISTA, it is again required!!!???
> >
> > Give me a friggin' break!
> >
> > Nevertheless, thank you for your suggestion to look at enabling NetBIOS on
> > my NICS so that I could join the domain; problem solved.
> >
> > J
> > --
> >

> >>
> >>
> >> Do you have a WINS server in the domain? Is the VPN connection set to use
> >> a
> >> DC on the domain for DNS and to use the WINS server for the domain? Is
> >> NETBIOS enabled on the VPN connection? When trying to join the domain are
> >> you using the NETBIOS name of the domain or the full name?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kerry Brown
> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
> >>
> >>

>
>

> Kerry,
>
> I don't dispute what you are saying about WINS/NetBIOS with Exchange and
> the
> domain join problem, but I have NEVER experienced this with WinXPSP1 or
> SP2...so what has MS done which apparently requires NetBIOS in VISTA, and
> more importantly, why???