Vista is a dud IMHO
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Microsoft can do they deserve to lose some market share.
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Edward Ray
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Microsoft can do they deserve to lose some market share.
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Edward Ray
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
How's about we earmark this post, flag as returnable one year hence andsee if the prediction holds in the real world?
Edward Ray wrote:
> I see little improvment secuirty wise over XP SP2. I this is the best
> Microsoft can do they deserve to lose some market share.
>
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
If they do more, customers will complain about being too limited.I think vista has made great improvements security-wise.
If you would have read the reviews, the technical documents and tried
yourself seriously you would know...
hal
<DIV>"Edward Ray" <ewray@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
news:B90EE838-82A4-4262-8F67-9F84227CEBA3@microsoft.com...</DIV>>I see
little improvment secuirty wise over XP SP2. I this is the best
> Microsoft can do they deserve to lose some market share.
>
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> Edward Ray
> CCIE Security, CISSP, GCIA Gold, GCIH Gold, MCSE+Security, PE
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
Please, elaborate as to the tests you have preformedin reaching such an enlightened opinion.
-Michael
"Edward Ray" <ewray@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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>I see little improvment secuirty wise over XP SP2. I this is the best Microsoft can do they
>deserve to lose some market share.
>
> --
> Edward Ray
> CCIE Security, CISSP, GCIA Gold, GCIH Gold, MCSE+Security, PE
>
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
yeah but he's got a lot of acronyms under his name. As my grandfather usedto say "if they spout a lot of titles and no facts they have more BS than a
herd of cows".
"Edward Ray" <ewray@newsgroup.nospam> wrote in message
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>I see little improvment secuirty wise over XP SP2. I this is the best
>Microsoft can do they deserve to lose some market share.
>
> --
> Edward Ray
> CCIE Security, CISSP, GCIA Gold, GCIH Gold, MCSE+Security, PE
>
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
There are some points though.The "in yer face" UAC/UAP
I am sure this is satisfying many people but whether those people are
front line users or not remains to be seen.
I am sure most user like security of UAC/UAP but does it need to be so
"Look! I'm here"?
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
It only appears when a program tries to run that needs administrativepriviledges. If it did not ask you for permission, a malicious program could
run in the background and you would never know it.
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> There are some points though.
>
> The "in yer face" UAC/UAP
>
> I am sure this is satisfying many people but whether those people are
> front line users or not remains to be seen.
>
> I am sure most user like security of UAC/UAP but does it need to be so
> "Look! I'm here"?
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
True. But OS X handles the same thing with far greater dignity in myopinion
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
True.. and it can be annoying though it's not as bad as beta2 was. I'm justbaffled by his "it's no better than XP" without any explanation why. For
such a security expert with all his acronyms you'd think he'd be pleased
they've hardened the network stack, sandboxed IE, implemented a semi-admin
accout for those that run as admin etc., but no we just get "vista is a
dud". <shrug>
"deebs" <deebs@false.false> wrote in message
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> There are some points though.
>
> The "in yer face" UAC/UAP
>
> I am sure this is satisfying many people but whether those people are
> front line users or not remains to be seen.
>
> I am sure most user like security of UAC/UAP but does it need to be so
> "Look! I'm here"?
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Re: Vista is a dud IMHO
Sandboxing IE is a pain; if ppl would just scan their install executefirst;sandboxing wouldnt be neccesary
Just an observation.
Jeff
"Peter M" <phmcn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> True.. and it can be annoying though it's not as bad as beta2 was. I'm
> just baffled by his "it's no better than XP" without any explanation why.
> For such a security expert with all his acronyms you'd think he'd be
> pleased they've hardened the network stack, sandboxed IE, implemented a
> semi-admin accout for those that run as admin etc., but no we just get
> "vista is a dud". <shrug>
>
> "deebs" <deebs@false.false> wrote in message
> news:OsArRAe2GHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...>> There are some points though.>
>>
>> The "in yer face" UAC/UAP
>>
>> I am sure this is satisfying many people but whether those people are
>> front line users or not remains to be seen.
>>
>> I am sure most user like security of UAC/UAP but does it need to be so
>> "Look! I'm here"?
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