Vista Hidden Administrator:Password Use

Posted: 08-27-2008, 06:29 AM

The Hidden Administrator account has elevated priviledges that th
ordinary adminsitrator enitity/identity canot use

Some of these prerogatives are important: such as to immunize th
computer against spy wear ala Spybot program. The 'administrator' titl
for me as the sole user is NOT enough to do this task and I mus
activate the hidden administrator to do it

Rather that periodically activate the program to immunize once a ne
bunch of threats are available, it is tempting to simply passwor
protect the hidden administrator account and let it run all the time bu
with protection

::IS THIS A SAFE AND LEGITIMATE COURSE OF ACTION [TO PASS WORD PROTEC
THE HIDDEN ADMINSTRATOR ACCOUNT] ASIDE FROM ANY ENHANCED SECURIT
ISSUES?::

Thanks for the input of the many geeks out there who contribute s
much

/s/ grinder Vista Ultimate 32X systge

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Vista Hidden Administrator:Password Use


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BillD
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RE: Vista Hidden Administrator:Password Use
Posted: 08-27-2008, 09:08 AM


"grinder" wrote:
> user is NOT enough to do this task and I must
> activate the hidden administrator to do it.
FALSE.
Just right click on spybot -> run as administrator
grinder
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Re: Vista Hidden Administrator:Password Use
Posted: 08-27-2008, 01:18 PM

Thank you very much. I am pleased to know I was mistaken. Again,
thanks.

Grinder


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Re: Vista Hidden Administrator:Password Use
Posted: 08-28-2008, 03:17 AM
grinder wrote:
> The Hidden Administrator account has elevated priviledges that the
> ordinary adminsitrator enitity/identity canot use.
>
Not true.
> Some of these prerogatives are important: such as to immunize the
> computer against spy wear ala Spybot program. The 'administrator' title
> for me as the sole user is NOT enough to do this task and I must
> activate the hidden administrator to do it.
>

Not so.

> Rather that periodically activate the program to immunize once a new
> bunch of threats are available, it is tempting to simply password
> protect the hidden administrator account and let it run all the time but
> with protection.
>
> ::IS THIS A SAFE AND LEGITIMATE COURSE OF ACTION [TO PASS WORD PROTECT
> THE HIDDEN ADMINSTRATOR ACCOUNT] ASIDE FROM ANY ENHANCED SECURITY
> ISSUES?::
>
>
"Safe" is a relative term, but the account *can* be used safely by a
knowledgeable individual. However, there is no need to do so, as your
assumptions above are false.




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Re: Vista Hidden Administrator:Password Use
Posted: 08-28-2008, 08:37 PM

"grinder" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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> The Hidden Administrator account has elevated priviledges that the
> ordinary adminsitrator enitity/identity canot use.
No, the difference is in the token (it's not split).
> Some of these prerogatives are important: such as to immunize the
> computer against spy wear ala Spybot program. The 'administrator' title
> for me as the sole user is NOT enough to do this task and I must
> activate the hidden administrator to do it.
That shouldn't be necessary. I think you are using the account
just to get around other issues with the progams.
> Rather that periodically activate the program to immunize once a new
> bunch of threats are available, it is tempting to simply password
> protect the hidden administrator account and let it run all the time but
> with protection.
You are not alone in this thinking. Much of the security built
into Vista is circumvented in this scenario.

....and some people *really* don't need the security of UAC.

It is sad to see this option being taken by those that really would
benefit from it - just because of the annoyance factor.
> ::IS THIS A SAFE AND LEGITIMATE COURSE OF ACTION [TO PASS WORD PROTECT
> THE HIDDEN ADMINSTRATOR ACCOUNT] ASIDE FROM ANY ENHANCED SECURITY
> ISSUES?::
The account has too much potential to just leave it lying around.
Keep in mind that a brute force attack against a password will
*eventually* prevail.
> Thanks for the input of the many geeks out there who contribute so
> much.
My advice - don't do it. I am pretty computer savvy (err..geeky?)
and I wouldn't do it.


 
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