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Re: Vista & indexing network drives

Posted: 12-13-2006, 03:46 AM
Hurricane Andrew
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I agree. This was a huge letdown for me and my company. 20 users on 1
server, 8 on the second. It would have been great to have the network
drives indexed. As it is, it's still a nice search feature, but if the
network drives could be indexed....WOW it would have been nice.

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"Valisystem" <Valisystem@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:62C5A9BF-BED1-4F00-A772-C4B54649A4B5@microsoft.com...
> I've been trying to find information online. As near as I can tell,
> indexing
> network shares was removed from Vista at some point during the beta/RC
> cycle.
> One comment by a developer suggests that the reason is that it doesn't
> scale
> well for hundreds of users to be reaching into the same folders
> continuously.
>
> That may be true, but I work with businesses that have 15-20 users who
> immediately realized the power of finding company documents instantly with
> Windows Desktop Search. This single omission will cause them to postpone
> or
> avoid Vista.
>
> It makes me wonder if Microsoft's promotional language is out of date. For
> example, on the Vista web site: "Windows Vista helps organizations
> effectively manage complex data collections and provides new search
> capabilities so that users can quickly find almost anything on their
> computer
> _or company servers_."
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/finduse.mspx
>
> That isn't really true, is it?
>
> Arrggh!
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Joe Zapert
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 12-13-2006, 06:17 PM
Perhaps we'll see this out-of-band when Longhorn server arrives?
Ah, another Vista disappointment!

"Hurricane Andrew" <hurricane_andrew@verizon_no_spam.net> wrote in message
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>I agree. This was a huge letdown for me and my company. 20 users on 1
>server, 8 on the second. It would have been great to have the network
>drives indexed. As it is, it's still a nice search feature, but if the
>network drives could be indexed....WOW it would have been nice.
>
> --
> "Hurricane" Andrew
> Milford, DE
>
> "Valisystem" <Valisystem@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:62C5A9BF-BED1-4F00-A772-C4B54649A4B5@microsoft.com...
>> I've been trying to find information online. As near as I can tell,
>> indexing
>> network shares was removed from Vista at some point during the beta/RC
>> cycle.
>> One comment by a developer suggests that the reason is that it doesn't
>> scale
>> well for hundreds of users to be reaching into the same folders
>> continuously.
>>
>> That may be true, but I work with businesses that have 15-20 users who
>> immediately realized the power of finding company documents instantly
>> with
>> Windows Desktop Search. This single omission will cause them to postpone
>> or
>> avoid Vista.
>>
>> It makes me wonder if Microsoft's promotional language is out of date.
>> For
>> example, on the Vista web site: "Windows Vista helps organizations
>> effectively manage complex data collections and provides new search
>> capabilities so that users can quickly find almost anything on their
>> computer
>> _or company servers_."
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/finduse.mspx
>>
>> That isn't really true, is it?
>>
>> Arrggh!
>
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Valisystem
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-07-2007, 11:59 PM
Look under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Modify. You should see
mapped network drives listed - they aren't there until the add-in is
installed.

Theoretically, under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Advanced, you
should also be able to add a shared network resource by UNC name. I haven't
played with it much, but it didn't work when I tried it the first time. . .


"Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I
> can not find anywhere to add a unc location.
>
> It looks like nothing changed after this update.
>
> "Valisystem" wrote:
>
> > Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop
> > Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the
> > same way XP does.
> >
> > Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996
> >
> > And here's the download page:
> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
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Kyle O''Brien
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Where are you finding "Search Tools"? I only have indexing options from the
control panel / System Maintenance.
When i click on "indexing options" i get a Modify and Advanced. Modify only
lets me see local drives and offline files. Advanced allows me to select
file types, rebuild, and select the index location. (database location)

Do i need to install something else? Only search add on to base vista
ultimate install is UNCFATPHinstaller.msi.

"Valisystem" wrote:
> Look under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Modify. You should see
> mapped network drives listed - they aren't there until the add-in is
> installed.
>
> Theoretically, under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Advanced, you
> should also be able to add a shared network resource by UNC name. I haven't
> played with it much, but it didn't work when I tried it the first time. . .
>
>
> "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
>
> > I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I
> > can not find anywhere to add a unc location.
> >
> > It looks like nothing changed after this update.
> >
> > "Valisystem" wrote:
> >
> > > Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop
> > > Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the
> > > same way XP does.
> > >
> > > Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996
> > >
> > > And here's the download page:
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
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Kyle O''Brien
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 01:20 AM
I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
"indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is
clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped
netwrok drive.

"Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> Where are you finding "Search Tools"? I only have indexing options from the
> control panel / System Maintenance.
> When i click on "indexing options" i get a Modify and Advanced. Modify only
> lets me see local drives and offline files. Advanced allows me to select
> file types, rebuild, and select the index location. (database location)
>
> Do i need to install something else? Only search add on to base vista
> ultimate install is UNCFATPHinstaller.msi.
>
> "Valisystem" wrote:
>
> > Look under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Modify. You should see
> > mapped network drives listed - they aren't there until the add-in is
> > installed.
> >
> > Theoretically, under Search Tools / Modify Index Locations / Advanced, you
> > should also be able to add a shared network resource by UNC name. I haven't
> > played with it much, but it didn't work when I tried it the first time. . .
> >
> >
> > "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> >
> > > I have installed this update to a Vista Ultimate RTM joined to a domain. I
> > > can not find anywhere to add a unc location.
> > >
> > > It looks like nothing changed after this update.
> > >
> > > "Valisystem" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Today Microsoft released an update to its UNC addin for Windows Desktop
> > > > Search that supports Vista, so Vista can index network shares exactly the
> > > > same way XP does.
> > > >
> > > > Here's the KB article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918996
> > > >
> > > > And here's the download page:
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
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Valisystem
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 01:34 AM
That's the place, so you must have some glitch that I didn't run into. FWIW,
the add-in appears to install a new service - "UNCFAT DMS". You might check
whether it installed and shows up on the list, just in case.


"Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
> "indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is
> clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped
> netwrok drive.
>
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Kyle O''Brien
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 03:22 AM
That service is installed and set to automatic. When I start it, it stops
with no errors on the screen or event log.

When this worked on your computer were you connected to a domain?

I am logged on with a user account with administrator and domain admin rights.



"Valisystem" wrote:
> That's the place, so you must have some glitch that I didn't run into. FWIW,
> the add-in appears to install a new service - "UNCFAT DMS". You might check
> whether it installed and shows up on the list, just in case.
>
>
> "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
>
> > I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
> > "indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is
> > clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped
> > netwrok drive.
> >
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Valisystem
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 03:34 AM
Yup, I'm on an SBS2003 domain. When I installed it I had elevated my account
to domain admin rights, but I'm running day to day with user rights and the
service is behaving itself. Wonder what's going on?


"Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> That service is installed and set to automatic. When I start it, it stops
> with no errors on the screen or event log.
>
> When this worked on your computer were you connected to a domain?
>
> I am logged on with a user account with administrator and domain admin rights.
>
>
>
> "Valisystem" wrote:
>
> > That's the place, so you must have some glitch that I didn't run into. FWIW,
> > the add-in appears to install a new service - "UNCFAT DMS". You might check
> > whether it installed and shows up on the list, just in case.
> >
> >
> > "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> >
> > > I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
> > > "indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is
> > > clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped
> > > netwrok drive.
> > >
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Kyle O''Brien
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 03:44 AM
Did you have to set anything in group policy?

"Valisystem" wrote:
> Yup, I'm on an SBS2003 domain. When I installed it I had elevated my account
> to domain admin rights, but I'm running day to day with user rights and the
> service is behaving itself. Wonder what's going on?
>
>
> "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
>
> > That service is installed and set to automatic. When I start it, it stops
> > with no errors on the screen or event log.
> >
> > When this worked on your computer were you connected to a domain?
> >
> > I am logged on with a user account with administrator and domain admin rights.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Valisystem" wrote:
> >
> > > That's the place, so you must have some glitch that I didn't run into. FWIW,
> > > the add-in appears to install a new service - "UNCFAT DMS". You might check
> > > whether it installed and shows up on the list, just in case.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
> > > > "indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is
> > > > clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped
> > > > netwrok drive.
> > > >
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Kyle O''Brien
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Re: Vista & indexing network drives
Posted: 01-08-2007, 04:10 AM
Well I installed this to another computer running vista business on a
different domain and it worked like a charm. Guess i have some digging to do
on the other domain. Thanks for your assistance.

"Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> Did you have to set anything in group policy?
>
> "Valisystem" wrote:
>
> > Yup, I'm on an SBS2003 domain. When I installed it I had elevated my account
> > to domain admin rights, but I'm running day to day with user rights and the
> > service is behaving itself. Wonder what's going on?
> >
> >
> > "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> >
> > > That service is installed and set to automatic. When I start it, it stops
> > > with no errors on the screen or event log.
> > >
> > > When this worked on your computer were you connected to a domain?
> > >
> > > I am logged on with a user account with administrator and domain admin rights.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Valisystem" wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's the place, so you must have some glitch that I didn't run into. FWIW,
> > > > the add-in appears to install a new service - "UNCFAT DMS". You might check
> > > > whether it installed and shows up on the list, just in case.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Kyle O''Brien" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I found the "Search Tools" and that will take me to the same windows as
> > > > > "indexing options" in the control panel. When modify / show all locations is
> > > > > clicked i see "c: g: offline files" No M: Drive whick is my mapped
> > > > > netwrok drive.
> > > > >
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