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Old 07-02-2006, 02:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Vista install on SATA

I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can I
install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave the XP where
it is? If so please explain.

SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual channel
ram
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Old 07-02-2006, 02:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes it can be done. How depends on your SATA controller. Will the SATA
drives be setup as a RAID array? Can your BIOS be set to boot from one of
the SATA drives?

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Artsr3 wrote:
Quote:
> I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can
> I install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave
> the XP where it is? If so please explain.
>
> SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
> channel ram

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Old 07-02-2006, 02:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Make sure the SATA is first in boot priority or you will turn your IDE into
a Vista boot drive. A little more trouble, but safest if you want to
uninstall later, is to disconnect your IDE drive, install Vista and follow
my posts elsewhere to add XP back to the Vista boot process.
See other posts about drive letters, etc.


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>I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can I
> install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave the XP
> where
> it is? If so please explain.
>
> SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
> channel
> ram

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Old 07-02-2006, 03:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yes it is a bootable (invida) was going to do the banding thing using the 2
drives for speed.

"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Quote:
> Yes it can be done. How depends on your SATA controller. Will the SATA
> drives be setup as a RAID array? Can your BIOS be set to boot from one of
> the SATA drives?
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> Artsr3 wrote:
Quote:
> > I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can
> > I install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave
> > the XP where it is? If so please explain.
> >
> > SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
> > channel ram
>
>
>
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Old 07-02-2006, 03:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Will look for your post. I was thinking about removing the IDE during the
Vista install. Thanks.

"John Barnes" wrote:
Quote:
> Make sure the SATA is first in boot priority or you will turn your IDE into
> a Vista boot drive. A little more trouble, but safest if you want to
> uninstall later, is to disconnect your IDE drive, install Vista and follow
> my posts elsewhere to add XP back to the Vista boot process.
> See other posts about drive letters, etc.
>
>
> "Artsr3" <Artsr3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:83E13D20-A2F4-4B3A-9116-861565E8474E@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can I
> > install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave the XP
> > where
> > it is? If so please explain.
> >
> > SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
> > channel
> > ram
>
>
>
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Old 07-02-2006, 03:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Worked great for me and the utility Colin has recommended works for
modifying the BCD to add back the boot.ini access after the files have been
copied.


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Quote:
> Will look for your post. I was thinking about removing the IDE during the
> Vista install. Thanks.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> Make sure the SATA is first in boot priority or you will turn your IDE
>> into
>> a Vista boot drive. A little more trouble, but safest if you want to
>> uninstall later, is to disconnect your IDE drive, install Vista and
>> follow
>> my posts elsewhere to add XP back to the Vista boot process.
>> See other posts about drive letters, etc.
>>
>>
>> "Artsr3" <Artsr3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:83E13D20-A2F4-4B3A-9116-861565E8474E@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>> >I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can I
>> > install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave the XP
>> > where
>> > it is? If so please explain.
>> >
>> > SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
>> > channel
>> > ram
>>
>>
>>

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Old 07-02-2006, 03:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I highly recommend you don't do the "banding thing" (RAID 0?). Unless you
have a very expensive controller (not the onboard nVidia one) the speed
gains for normal use are negligible and you greatly increase your chances of
data loss. In addition you will make the Vista install more likely to fail.
You will need to install the RAID controller drivers during the Vista
install. I don't want to sound condescending but from your posts it sounds
like you don't understand much about RAID, hard drive controllers, and
installing drivers. If I am wrong I apologise in advance. I recommend you
keep the configuration as simple as possible. Your best chance for a good
install would be to connect only one SATA drive and a DVD drive. Make sure
the BIOS is set to boot from the DVD drive first then the SATA drive. Also
make sure RAID is disabled in the BIOS. Install Vista. Once Vista is
installed and you can boot into it you can then re-connect the other drives.
When you want to boot to XP you will have to set the BIOS to boot from the
XP drive and vice versa for Vista. This is the safest way to protect your XP
installation. Personally I wouldn't even have the XP drive hooked up when
using Vista unless you have a current backup and know how to restore it.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Artsr3 wrote:
Quote:
> Yes it is a bootable (invida) was going to do the banding thing using
> the 2 drives for speed.
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> Yes it can be done. How depends on your SATA controller. Will the
>> SATA drives be setup as a RAID array? Can your BIOS be set to boot
>> from one of the SATA drives?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Artsr3 wrote:
Quote:
>>> I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives.
>>> Can I install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and
>>> leave the XP where it is? If so please explain.
>>>
>>> SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
>>> channel ram

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Old 07-02-2006, 05:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I am a greenhorn when it comes to SATA. I have been getting confusing info
locally on the banding issue. I had my doubts. I will install this
afternoon and cross everthing possible and see what happens/

thanks

art

"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Quote:
> I highly recommend you don't do the "banding thing" (RAID 0?). Unless you
> have a very expensive controller (not the onboard nVidia one) the speed
> gains for normal use are negligible and you greatly increase your chances of
> data loss. In addition you will make the Vista install more likely to fail.
> You will need to install the RAID controller drivers during the Vista
> install. I don't want to sound condescending but from your posts it sounds
> like you don't understand much about RAID, hard drive controllers, and
> installing drivers. If I am wrong I apologise in advance. I recommend you
> keep the configuration as simple as possible. Your best chance for a good
> install would be to connect only one SATA drive and a DVD drive. Make sure
> the BIOS is set to boot from the DVD drive first then the SATA drive. Also
> make sure RAID is disabled in the BIOS. Install Vista. Once Vista is
> installed and you can boot into it you can then re-connect the other drives.
> When you want to boot to XP you will have to set the BIOS to boot from the
> XP drive and vice versa for Vista. This is the safest way to protect your XP
> installation. Personally I wouldn't even have the XP drive hooked up when
> using Vista unless you have a current backup and know how to restore it.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
> Artsr3 wrote:
Quote:
> > Yes it is a bootable (invida) was going to do the banding thing using
> > the 2 drives for speed.
> >
> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> >> Yes it can be done. How depends on your SATA controller. Will the
> >> SATA drives be setup as a RAID array? Can your BIOS be set to boot
> >> from one of the SATA drives?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kerry
> >> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >>
> >> Artsr3 wrote:
> >>> I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives.
> >>> Can I install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and
> >>> leave the XP where it is? If so please explain.
> >>>
> >>> SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
> >>> channel ram
>
>
>
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:16 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Artsr3" <Artsr3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives. Can I
> install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and leave the XP
> where
> it is? If so please explain.
>
> SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig dual
> channel
> ram
I have my Primary OS on one sata drive on an Nforce 4 board (ASUS A8N-SLI
deluxe) and vista on another sata drive

I use the Motherboard bios to select which drive to boot from. If you have
your drives named the Vista installer will show each named drive during
installation and allow you to pick which one to install on.

My take is that this is the best way to do this as it avoids any interaction
between the Vista and XP


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Old 07-02-2006, 09:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Good luck. Let us know how you make out.

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Art Garland Sr wrote:
Quote:
> I am a greenhorn when it comes to SATA. I have been getting
> confusing info locally on the banding issue. I had my doubts. I
> will install this afternoon and cross everthing possible and see what
> happens/
>
> thanks
>
> art
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> I highly recommend you don't do the "banding thing" (RAID 0?).
>> Unless you have a very expensive controller (not the onboard nVidia
>> one) the speed gains for normal use are negligible and you greatly
>> increase your chances of data loss. In addition you will make the
>> Vista install more likely to fail. You will need to install the RAID
>> controller drivers during the Vista install. I don't want to sound
>> condescending but from your posts it sounds like you don't
>> understand much about RAID, hard drive controllers, and installing
>> drivers. If I am wrong I apologise in advance. I recommend you keep
>> the configuration as simple as possible. Your best chance for a good
>> install would be to connect only one SATA drive and a DVD drive.
>> Make sure the BIOS is set to boot from the DVD drive first then the
>> SATA drive. Also make sure RAID is disabled in the BIOS. Install
>> Vista. Once Vista is installed and you can boot into it you can then
>> re-connect the other drives. When you want to boot to XP you will
>> have to set the BIOS to boot from the XP drive and vice versa for
>> Vista. This is the safest way to protect your XP installation.
>> Personally I wouldn't even have the XP drive hooked up when using
>> Vista unless you have a current backup and know how to restore it.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Artsr3 wrote:
Quote:
>>> Yes it is a bootable (invida) was going to do the banding thing
>>> using the 2 drives for speed.
>>>
>>> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes it can be done. How depends on your SATA controller. Will the
>>>> SATA drives be setup as a RAID array? Can your BIOS be set to boot
>>>> from one of the SATA drives?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Kerry
>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>>>
>>>> Artsr3 wrote:
>>>>> I have XP running on my IDE drive, I am adding two SATA drives.
>>>>> Can I install Vista on the SATA as boot (as initial install) and
>>>>> leave the XP where it is? If so please explain.
>>>>>
>>>>> SATA's are 250 gig each AMD 32 bit processor Athlon 2800 1 gig
>>>>> dual channel ram

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