vista is crap

"Vista crap" <Vista crap@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
> Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not
> upgrade
> or go to apply mac.

Civilization IV working great here, playing it right now.

If you decide to stop acting like a 7 year old and try some basic
troubleshooting let some of us know and we might do something to assist.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"Paul Smith" wrote:

> "Vista crap" <Vista crap@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:64835B66-F893-41F6-9A3F-6172D4967C5F@microsoft.com...

> > every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
> > Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not
> > upgrade
> > or go to apply mac.

>
> Civilization IV working great here, playing it right now.
>
> If you decide to stop acting like a 7 year old and try some basic
> troubleshooting let some of us know and we might do something to assist.
>
> --
> Paul Smith,
> Yeovil, UK.
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
> http://www.windowsresource.net/
>
> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail*
>
>
>

Part of the problem with that idea is that the trouble shooting suggestions
do nothing to solve the problem, since there are generic ideas to try, and it
seems that most if not all of the problems with Vista are not generic
problems.

Specific case in point (mine), and I have yet to find anyone else with this
problem.

On alot of the games I have downloaded and tried to install from games
bought out in town, some of the games load fine, and appear to start to run
fine, and otherwise work fine, except for one small detail. When it gets to
the part where the game is operating (only when these games try fullscreen,
which obviously, is how I would want it), the game screen is split four ways,
and all 4 corners end up in the opposite of where they are supposed to be,
lower left to upper right, etc.

Not all of the games do this, no matter where I get them from. Even some of
the games that "came with Vista" have done this, which makes them basically
unplayable. Some have loaded and played normally. And this has happened to
games from sites like Yahoo.Games and shockwave.com, and so on.

I have looked in the windows self help section, and tried some of the
"trouble shooting techniques" listed there, like running the game under
system admin, disabling what they call aeroglass (or whatever), and even
trying to force the game to play in a window (using the options under the
properties tab that are a part of Vista/windows. But when I have done any of
these, the game "forces" the system to go to it's own display properties and
the problem is still there.

Specifically, I have tried to load and play both BF 2142, and Elder Scrolls
Oblivion, and both have the same problem with the display. I have even tried
adjusting the local settings of the display to try to force the computer to
run the recommended game settings, with no luck.

The computer is an HP a1730n, running Windows Vista Home Premium with 1918
MB, on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ 2.40 GHz. The video
card is nVidia GeForce 6150 LE with what looks like 128 MB onboard.

This computer I am using is not mine, and while I was faintly entertaining
the idea of having Vista as the OS when I get my own new one, all of these
problems have put that idea firmly to rest. You can crow all day if you want
about how awesome Vista is, but when an operating system has THIS MANY
PROBLEMS from this many people, that tells me this system IS crap, like the
originator of this line posted. And this is not a custom system, this is how
it came from the store, so nothing odd ordered that could be causing some of
the problems here.

Leave it to Microsoft to overcomplicate something this bad.

An NVidia 6150 LE is an integrated part, and will have issues running games
on Windows XP or any other operating system. It's not exactly fair to judge
the gaming performance of a system based on such a low-end part.

That said, have you tried installing the latest Windows Vista driver from
the NVidia website? The inbox drivers are often many months behind on
performance optimizations.

--
Chuck Walbourn
SDE, XNA Developer Connection

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

"Chuck Walbourn [MSFT]" wrote:

> An NVidia 6150 LE is an integrated part, and will have issues running games
> on Windows XP or any other operating system. It's not exactly fair to judge
> the gaming performance of a system based on such a low-end part.
>
> That said, have you tried installing the latest Windows Vista driver from
> the NVidia website? The inbox drivers are often many months behind on
> performance optimizations.
>
> --
> Chuck Walbourn
> SDE, XNA Developer Connection
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
>
>

You know, it is kind of funny that you mention that. After posting that
message, I searched more, and DID find someone else with a similar (or the
same problem), and the suggested fix was to download the drivers (I should
have thought of that before, being into computers and all), and I DID try
that. Downloaded and updated the drivers for the "newest and bestest" from
NVidia. Here's the kicker. I was able to solve the problem with the screen
splitting, but it apparently created NEW problems, because now the system is
showing an error that reads something like "can't find display driver name"
or something like that, and I haven't even been able to get to the point
where the game was at least somewhat viewable.

I think this was for the Elder Scrolls game this happened, but it lets me
into the games starting menu where you can select options, online or offline
play, etc, and then I click play, and it comes back with that error, which it
didn't do before I downloaded the updated drivers.

So it seems that end users aren't the only ones having problems with Vista,
the hardware people are too.

WOWOOWOWOWOOWW
a dumb** mother**** here
stop doing some 6-year-old things please
like Paul Smith said
learn more u stupid
btw.....
there are way less games u can play on MAC than Windows.....u dumb

"Vista crap" wrote:

> every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
> Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not upgrade
> or go to apply mac.

Agreed. Go into a software store. There's maybe two rows (I said maybe) of
games for Macs but a dozen rows for Windows. Nuf said.

"swasrfa007" wrote:

> WOWOOWOWOWOOWW
> a dumb** mother**** here
> stop doing some 6-year-old things please
> like Paul Smith said
> learn more u stupid
> btw.....
> there are way less games u can play on MAC than Windows.....u dumb
>
> "Vista crap" wrote:
>

> > every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
> > Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not upgrade
> > or go to apply mac.

And not a single one will run on Vista.
Or at least with *your* graphics card or *your* sound card.

Vista is crap. My wife's won't even run those at vistareadygames
I can go to apple.com and find games for my Mac - plenty - and all of them
run fine, thank you!


On 5/15/07 8:46 PM, in article
69955C82-9D53-47D3-86C2-9D12043A22D8@microsoft.com, "socrfan"
<socrfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Agreed. Go into a software store. There's maybe two rows (I said maybe) of
> games for Macs but a dozen rows for Windows. Nuf said.
>
> "swasrfa007" wrote:
>

>> WOWOOWOWOWOOWW
>> a dumb** mother**** here
>> stop doing some 6-year-old things please
>> like Paul Smith said
>> learn more u stupid
>> btw.....
>> there are way less games u can play on MAC than Windows.....u dumb
>>
>> "Vista crap" wrote:
>>

>>> every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
>>> Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not upgrade
>>> or go to apply mac.

I'm not here to defend Vista, but in terms of running games, I don't know
that I would call it crap. So far it's run just about everything I wanted
to. Granted, not always as fast as I would like, but it runs them all.

If you're having trouble with that many games, then there would have to be
another problem somewhere.


"Ben Yates" <bjjlyates@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:C2727934.3C5%bjjlyates@bellsouth.net...

> And not a single one will run on Vista.
> Or at least with *your* graphics card or *your* sound card.
>
> Vista is crap. My wife's won't even run those at vistareadygames
> I can go to apple.com and find games for my Mac - plenty - and all of them
> run fine, thank you!
>
>
> On 5/15/07 8:46 PM, in article
> 69955C82-9D53-47D3-86C2-9D12043A22D8@microsoft.com, "socrfan"
> <socrfan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>

>> Agreed. Go into a software store. There's maybe two rows (I said maybe)
>> of
>> games for Macs but a dozen rows for Windows. Nuf said.
>>
>> "swasrfa007" wrote:
>>

>>> WOWOOWOWOWOOWW
>>> a dumb** mother**** here
>>> stop doing some 6-year-old things please
>>> like Paul Smith said
>>> learn more u stupid
>>> btw.....
>>> there are way less games u can play on MAC than Windows.....u dumb
>>>
>>> "Vista crap" wrote:
>>>
>>>> every game i play on vista a has a Problem .i like really playing
>>>> Civilization IV but now i cant . i suggest to all my friends in not
>>>> upgrade
>>>> or go to apply mac.

>