Vista is not at all suited for games.

Nah, this is a comment, not a problem. I'm simply stating that Vista is not
optimized for playing games.

"Zack Whittaker" wrote:

> I know - it's not up to Microsoft to make sure all games work - it's their
> job to make a platform which is easy to develop games for. Contact the games
> manufacturer to see their support for Vista in the future.
>
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> "coolbho3000" <coolbho3000@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> > With the Aero theme taking up over 500MB of RAM (on my computer), Vista is
> > not suited for games at all. Even if Microsoft does some "performance
> > fixes,"
> > Vista will never run games as fast as Windows XP does, even if you disable
> > Aero. It was the same with the XP Luna interface, messed up game
> > performance.
> > Aero is doing the same thing, except tenfold, and along with the new
> > gimmicks
> > and things, makes Vista an unsuitable OS for games.
> >
> > I have no idea why Microsoft is forcing everyone to upgrade to Vista
> > because
> > they're not publishing any more games for XP after Vista is released
> > (*cough*
> > Halo 2 *cough*).
> >
> > Who's with me?

>
>
>

Well, they do still need to optimise for performance )

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that up!

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"coolbho3000" <coolbho3000@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Nah, this is a comment, not a problem. I'm simply stating that Vista is
> not
> optimized for playing games.
>
> "Zack Whittaker" wrote:
>

>> I know - it's not up to Microsoft to make sure all games work - it's
>> their
>> job to make a platform which is easy to develop games for. Contact the
>> games
>> manufacturer to see their support for Vista in the future.
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
>> that up!
>>
>> --: Original message follows :--
>> "coolbho3000" <coolbho3000@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F9C0DEC2-07FE-4DC8-BEA2-0410EDE11C83@microsoft.com...

>> > With the Aero theme taking up over 500MB of RAM (on my computer), Vista
>> > is
>> > not suited for games at all. Even if Microsoft does some "performance
>> > fixes,"
>> > Vista will never run games as fast as Windows XP does, even if you
>> > disable
>> > Aero. It was the same with the XP Luna interface, messed up game
>> > performance.
>> > Aero is doing the same thing, except tenfold, and along with the new
>> > gimmicks
>> > and things, makes Vista an unsuitable OS for games.
>> >
>> > I have no idea why Microsoft is forcing everyone to upgrade to Vista
>> > because
>> > they're not publishing any more games for XP after Vista is released
>> > (*cough*
>> > Halo 2 *cough*).
>> >
>> > Who's with me?

>>
>>
>>

No one including Microsoft is forcing anyone to upgrade to Vista or any
other operating system
Those who upgrade to Vista do so by their own choice.

Please post the source for "they're not publishing any more games for XP
after Vista is released"
Do not confuse game and other programs optimized for Vista to working only
on Vista
Even if true for Microsoft, there are many more games than just Microsoft.

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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"coolbho3000" <coolbho3000@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F9C0DEC2-07FE-4DC8-BEA2-0410EDE11C83@microsoft.com...

> With the Aero theme taking up over 500MB of RAM (on my computer), Vista is
> not suited for games at all. Even if Microsoft does some "performance
> fixes,"
> Vista will never run games as fast as Windows XP does, even if you disable
> Aero. It was the same with the XP Luna interface, messed up game
> performance.
> Aero is doing the same thing, except tenfold, and along with the new
> gimmicks
> and things, makes Vista an unsuitable OS for games.
>
> I have no idea why Microsoft is forcing everyone to upgrade to Vista
> because
> they're not publishing any more games for XP after Vista is released
> (*cough*
> Halo 2 *cough*).
>
> Who's with me?

Well, Halo 2 is not going to be done on XP...
Will DirectX 10 only work on Vista? If it works on XP, I see no reason why
they can't allow games to be made on XP.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> No one including Microsoft is forcing anyone to upgrade to Vista or any
> other operating system
> Those who upgrade to Vista do so by their own choice.
>
> Please post the source for "they're not publishing any more games for XP
> after Vista is released"
> Do not confuse game and other programs optimized for Vista to working only
> on Vista
> Even if true for Microsoft, there are many more games than just Microsoft.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "coolbho3000" <coolbho3000@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F9C0DEC2-07FE-4DC8-BEA2-0410EDE11C83@microsoft.com...

> > With the Aero theme taking up over 500MB of RAM (on my computer), Vista is
> > not suited for games at all. Even if Microsoft does some "performance
> > fixes,"
> > Vista will never run games as fast as Windows XP does, even if you disable
> > Aero. It was the same with the XP Luna interface, messed up game
> > performance.
> > Aero is doing the same thing, except tenfold, and along with the new
> > gimmicks
> > and things, makes Vista an unsuitable OS for games.
> >
> > I have no idea why Microsoft is forcing everyone to upgrade to Vista
> > because
> > they're not publishing any more games for XP after Vista is released
> > (*cough*
> > Halo 2 *cough*).
> >
> > Who's with me?

>
>
>

Unless you want to play Halo2 without buying an xbox.

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:

> No one including Microsoft is forcing anyone to upgrade to Vista or any
> other operating system
> Those who upgrade to Vista do so by their own choice.
>
>

By that logic, a great many things force people to upgrade certain things.
You not only specify one particular game, but you further restrict the
options by demanding a specific version.

But that is not Microsoft forcing anything.
That is the user choosing to run a specific program and wanting to meet the
requirements to feed that choice.
The key here is choice.

Halo of any kind is not a game I ever play.
Are you sure Halo 2 will play on Vista and nothing more?
Source?

--
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http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Penfold" <Penfold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EF4C33A3-9B62-4CE0-82AD-AF0C4748053F@microsoft.com...

> Unless you want to play Halo2 without buying an xbox.
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>

>> No one including Microsoft is forcing anyone to upgrade to Vista or any
>> other operating system
>> Those who upgrade to Vista do so by their own choice.
>>
>>

So, I should be able to play any current game on Windows 95, or even 3.11
using this logic. Upgrades are necessary. Sure, it's forcing the user to
upgrade.

Consoles are the same way. If I want to play a Xbox 360 game, I need a 360.
It won't play on the XBox. I'd have to upgrade.

Cars are even the same way. If I want a fuel injected engine with 45 MPG and
an MP3 player, I'd need to upgrade.

I don't see it as being forced. You're not "forced" into buying the game.
It's the game requirements. That's the way it is. It moves the computer
industry. Some people don't understand that. You buy a PC, you play what's
out at the time. You want to play a newer game, you need a newer computer.
Yes, it's fast paced. But the outcome is great!

My 486 can still play Doom 2.

Dustin Harper


"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:uBkiwNDjGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> By that logic, a great many things force people to upgrade certain things.
> You not only specify one particular game, but you further restrict the
> options by demanding a specific version.
>
> But that is not Microsoft forcing anything.
> That is the user choosing to run a specific program and wanting to meet
> the requirements to feed that choice.
> The key here is choice.
>
> Halo of any kind is not a game I ever play.
> Are you sure Halo 2 will play on Vista and nothing more?
> Source?
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Penfold" <Penfold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:EF4C33A3-9B62-4CE0-82AD-AF0C4748053F@microsoft.com...

>> Unless you want to play Halo2 without buying an xbox.
>>
>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>>

>>> No one including Microsoft is forcing anyone to upgrade to Vista or any
>>> other operating system
>>> Those who upgrade to Vista do so by their own choice.
>>>
>>>

>
>

"So, I should be able to play any current game..."
I never suggested any such thing.
But the game manufacturers should be able to tell you.

Nothing forces the user to upgrade anything.
The user makes a choice.

"If I want to play..."
The key word in your sentence is "want"?
If you want something, then you choose...
No one is forcing your want to run a particular version of a game.
Your choice.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Dustin Harper" <dharper@overclockersrip.net> wrote in message
news:A31B16A8-3524-468A-9052-4B4B41B414B3@microsoft.com...

>
> So, I should be able to play any current game on Windows 95, or even 3.11
> using this logic. Upgrades are necessary. Sure, it's forcing the user to
> upgrade.
>
> Consoles are the same way. If I want to play a Xbox 360 game, I need a
> 360. It won't play on the XBox. I'd have to upgrade.
>
> Cars are even the same way. If I want a fuel injected engine with 45 MPG
> and an MP3 player, I'd need to upgrade.
>
> I don't see it as being forced. You're not "forced" into buying the game.
> It's the game requirements. That's the way it is. It moves the computer
> industry. Some people don't understand that. You buy a PC, you play what's
> out at the time. You want to play a newer game, you need a newer computer.
> Yes, it's fast paced. But the outcome is great!
>
> My 486 can still play Doom 2.
>
> Dustin Harper
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:uBkiwNDjGHA.3496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> By that logic, a great many things force people to upgrade certain
>> things.
>> You not only specify one particular game, but you further restrict the
>> options by demanding a specific version.
>>
>> But that is not Microsoft forcing anything.
>> That is the user choosing to run a specific program and wanting to meet
>> the requirements to feed that choice.
>> The key here is choice.
>>
>> Halo of any kind is not a game I ever play.
>> Are you sure Halo 2 will play on Vista and nothing more?
>> Source?
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Penfold" <Penfold@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:EF4C33A3-9B62-4CE0-82AD-AF0C4748053F@microsoft.com...

>>> Unless you want to play Halo2 without buying an xbox.
>>>
>>> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>>> No one including Microsoft is forcing anyone to upgrade to Vista or any
>>>> other operating system
>>>> Those who upgrade to Vista do so by their own choice.
>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>

>