Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP

I personally don't like Vista, but I don't dislike it either. I'm still
experiencing a lot of problems with Vista at RC2. Search Indexer has
crashed twice in the less than a week that I've had RC2, WMP11's still very
slow and always eats 30% of my CPU just to play a song. (Thanks mfpmp.exe
for eating 10% of it and DWM for another 10-15% - it always does this when
WMP is open for some reason.) I can't network with the other computers in
the house as Vista freezes up any time that I try to transfer something to
another computer or Vista drops my Internet connection (which is LAN by the
way - not WAN) anytime another computer access my network folder. Paint
still has the same bug that I've had with it since Beta 2. When I save
things to the desktop in this build, the icons for the saved items do not
show up until I refresh the desktop. I think the disk defragmenter is less
than decent - it doesn't even show you the progress or a legend. I also
dislike the sound recorder - why did they downgrade it. I pre-schooler who
didn't know how to read could use it - there's only one button. Oh well, I
use Audacity for sound recording now anyway.
Now if they could get most of these issues fixed with Vista by RTM
(which I bet isn't far away at all) then I might be very happy with Vista.
Knowing it's feature complete, I doubt the disk defragmenter and the sound
recorder will be replaced by now. I will, however, be pretty upset if
Microsoft releases Vista the way it is. I've seen quite a few people on
here who have had too many troubles with RC2 and had better luck with RC1.
The UAC does annoy me, but at least you can shut it off. I feel that
customizing Vista is worse than customizing XP - there aren't as many
options for some things such as hibernation - where can you disable it now?
How can you change the amount of HD space system restore uses now? I can't
seem to find them anymore. I even did a search for Hibernation in the
search box in the control panel, and it came up with a result, but there was
no option anywhere there for hibernation at all. Now I will say that this
so called RC2 is actually only an interim release, so it's expected not be
the greatest, but if it releases to store shelves and I can't get the
networking to work, I will be pretty you know what. Out of the five builds
of Vista I've tested, I've only seen two builds that did not have network
problems - PreRC1 5536 and RC1 5600. I started having network problems in
5728 and this build.
Now I'm not saying Vista is all bad - if they could get these
approximately ten issues fixed, I would be pretty happy. If the network
doesn't work - it won't be good.
System Specs:
Asus K8N motherboard (socket 754)
-using onboard networking
AMD Sempron 64 2800+ OC'd @ 1.8GHz (Windows Experience Index Rating - 3.7)
1.5GB of RAM (Windows Experience Index Rating - 4.1)
Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x - 256MB GDDR2 RAM (Windows Experience Index
Rating - graphics - 4.4, gaming graphics - 4.9)
WD 80GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE hard drive - XP
WD 120GB 7200RPM 8MB cache IDE hard drive - Vista 32-bit Ultimate RC2 5744
on 60GB partition (Windows Experience Index Rating - 5.0)
Creative Audigy (5.1 24-bit)

"Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
>

>>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
>>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
>>junk.
>>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
>>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
>>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
>>security messages.
>>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
>>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
>>
>>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
>>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
>>
>>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
>>

>
>
> Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
> hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
>
> I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
> than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
> hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
> hardware when it was released.
>
> If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
> years ago, we understand your frustration....
>
> Major
>

Friend, I can't say I read all of this long post, but I think you are
telling us you are running the 64 bit version.

Save all your important files and download and install the 32bit
version. Even though you have a 64bit CPU the 32bit version is easier
to work with right now. I have a 64bit CPU and have hated trying to
get the 64bit version to run smooth.

Also, DO NOT UPGRADE. Blow the sucker away and load fresh. That
means choosing format during the install process.

Good luck.

Major

Hello Travis,
For Hibernation try the button to the left of the lock button after
selecting START
Looks like (!)
--
Paul


"Travis King" wrote:

> I personally don't like Vista, but I don't dislike it either. I'm still
> experiencing a lot of problems with Vista at RC2. Search Indexer has
> crashed twice in the less than a week that I've had RC2, WMP11's still very
> slow and always eats 30% of my CPU just to play a song. (Thanks mfpmp.exe
> for eating 10% of it and DWM for another 10-15% - it always does this when
> WMP is open for some reason.) I can't network with the other computers in
> the house as Vista freezes up any time that I try to transfer something to
> another computer or Vista drops my Internet connection (which is LAN by the
> way - not WAN) anytime another computer access my network folder. Paint
> still has the same bug that I've had with it since Beta 2. When I save
> things to the desktop in this build, the icons for the saved items do not
> show up until I refresh the desktop. I think the disk defragmenter is less
> than decent - it doesn't even show you the progress or a legend. I also
> dislike the sound recorder - why did they downgrade it. I pre-schooler who
> didn't know how to read could use it - there's only one button. Oh well, I
> use Audacity for sound recording now anyway.
> Now if they could get most of these issues fixed with Vista by RTM
> (which I bet isn't far away at all) then I might be very happy with Vista.
> Knowing it's feature complete, I doubt the disk defragmenter and the sound
> recorder will be replaced by now. I will, however, be pretty upset if
> Microsoft releases Vista the way it is. I've seen quite a few people on
> here who have had too many troubles with RC2 and had better luck with RC1.
> The UAC does annoy me, but at least you can shut it off. I feel that
> customizing Vista is worse than customizing XP - there aren't as many
> options for some things such as hibernation - where can you disable it now?
> How can you change the amount of HD space system restore uses now? I can't
> seem to find them anymore. I even did a search for Hibernation in the
> search box in the control panel, and it came up with a result, but there was
> no option anywhere there for hibernation at all. Now I will say that this
> so called RC2 is actually only an interim release, so it's expected not be
> the greatest, but if it releases to store shelves and I can't get the
> networking to work, I will be pretty you know what. Out of the five builds
> of Vista I've tested, I've only seen two builds that did not have network
> problems - PreRC1 5536 and RC1 5600. I started having network problems in
> 5728 and this build.
> Now I'm not saying Vista is all bad - if they could get these
> approximately ten issues fixed, I would be pretty happy. If the network
> doesn't work - it won't be good.
> System Specs:
> Asus K8N motherboard (socket 754)
> -using onboard networking
> AMD Sempron 64 2800+ OC'd @ 1.8GHz (Windows Experience Index Rating - 3.7)
> 1.5GB of RAM (Windows Experience Index Rating - 4.1)
> Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x - 256MB GDDR2 RAM (Windows Experience Index
> Rating - graphics - 4.4, gaming graphics - 4.9)
> WD 80GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE hard drive - XP
> WD 120GB 7200RPM 8MB cache IDE hard drive - Vista 32-bit Ultimate RC2 5744
> on 60GB partition (Windows Experience Index Rating - 5.0)
> Creative Audigy (5.1 24-bit)
>
> "Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
> news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
> >

> >>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
> >>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
> >>junk.
> >>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
> >>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
> >>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
> >>security messages.
> >>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
> >>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
> >>
> >>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
> >>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
> >>
> >>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
> >>

> >
> >
> > Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
> > hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
> >
> > I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
> > than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
> > hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
> > hardware when it was released.
> >
> > If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
> > years ago, we understand your frustration....
> >
> > Major
> >

>
>

I meant I wanted to know how to disable hibernation. Thanks for the
attempt. I do not see hibernation in the list of shut-down options, so
perhaps it's already disabled, although there was 1.5GB of things for
hibernation with disk cleanup...
"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:%23Sh5udM7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> I personally don't like Vista, but I don't dislike it either. I'm
> still experiencing a lot of problems with Vista at RC2. Search Indexer
> has crashed twice in the less than a week that I've had RC2, WMP11's still
> very slow and always eats 30% of my CPU just to play a song. (Thanks
> mfpmp.exe for eating 10% of it and DWM for another 10-15% - it always does
> this when WMP is open for some reason.) I can't network with the other
> computers in the house as Vista freezes up any time that I try to transfer
> something to another computer or Vista drops my Internet connection (which
> is LAN by the way - not WAN) anytime another computer access my network
> folder. Paint still has the same bug that I've had with it since Beta 2.
> When I save things to the desktop in this build, the icons for the saved
> items do not show up until I refresh the desktop. I think the disk
> defragmenter is less than decent - it doesn't even show you the progress
> or a legend. I also dislike the sound recorder - why did they downgrade
> it. I pre-schooler who didn't know how to read could use it - there's
> only one button. Oh well, I use Audacity for sound recording now anyway.
> Now if they could get most of these issues fixed with Vista by RTM
> (which I bet isn't far away at all) then I might be very happy with Vista.
> Knowing it's feature complete, I doubt the disk defragmenter and the sound
> recorder will be replaced by now. I will, however, be pretty upset if
> Microsoft releases Vista the way it is. I've seen quite a few people on
> here who have had too many troubles with RC2 and had better luck with RC1.
> The UAC does annoy me, but at least you can shut it off. I feel that
> customizing Vista is worse than customizing XP - there aren't as many
> options for some things such as hibernation - where can you disable it
> now? How can you change the amount of HD space system restore uses now? I
> can't seem to find them anymore. I even did a search for Hibernation in
> the search box in the control panel, and it came up with a result, but
> there was no option anywhere there for hibernation at all. Now I will say
> that this so called RC2 is actually only an interim release, so it's
> expected not be the greatest, but if it releases to store shelves and I
> can't get the networking to work, I will be pretty you know what. Out of
> the five builds of Vista I've tested, I've only seen two builds that did
> not have network problems - PreRC1 5536 and RC1 5600. I started having
> network problems in 5728 and this build.
> Now I'm not saying Vista is all bad - if they could get these
> approximately ten issues fixed, I would be pretty happy. If the network
> doesn't work - it won't be good.
> System Specs:
> Asus K8N motherboard (socket 754)
> -using onboard networking
> AMD Sempron 64 2800+ OC'd @ 1.8GHz (Windows Experience Index Rating - 3.7)
> 1.5GB of RAM (Windows Experience Index Rating - 4.1)
> Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x - 256MB GDDR2 RAM (Windows Experience Index
> Rating - graphics - 4.4, gaming graphics - 4.9)
> WD 80GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE hard drive - XP
> WD 120GB 7200RPM 8MB cache IDE hard drive - Vista 32-bit Ultimate RC2 5744
> on 60GB partition (Windows Experience Index Rating - 5.0)
> Creative Audigy (5.1 24-bit)
>
> "Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
> news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
>>

>>>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
>>>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
>>>junk.
>>>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
>>>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
>>>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
>>>security messages.
>>>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
>>>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
>>>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
>>>
>>>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
>> hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
>>
>> I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
>> than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
>> hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
>> hardware when it was released.
>>
>> If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
>> years ago, we understand your frustration....
>>
>> Major
>>

>

Travis, if you don't see Hibernation as an option in the dropdown list, then
it's already disabled. Did you use disk cleanup to remove the hibernation
file? If so, then it's disabled. Gone.

--
Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation :-)
"Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
news:eiLz00N7GHA.200@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>I meant I wanted to know how to disable hibernation. Thanks for the
>attempt. I do not see hibernation in the list of shut-down options, so
>perhaps it's already disabled, although there was 1.5GB of things for
>hibernation with disk cleanup...
> "Travis King" <Anonymous@none.com> wrote in message
> news:%23Sh5udM7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> I personally don't like Vista, but I don't dislike it either. I'm
>> still experiencing a lot of problems with Vista at RC2. Search Indexer
>> has crashed twice in the less than a week that I've had RC2, WMP11's
>> still very slow and always eats 30% of my CPU just to play a song.
>> (Thanks mfpmp.exe for eating 10% of it and DWM for another 10-15% - it
>> always does this when WMP is open for some reason.) I can't network with
>> the other computers in the house as Vista freezes up any time that I try
>> to transfer something to another computer or Vista drops my Internet
>> connection (which is LAN by the way - not WAN) anytime another computer
>> access my network folder. Paint still has the same bug that I've had
>> with it since Beta 2. When I save things to the desktop in this build,
>> the icons for the saved items do not show up until I refresh the desktop.
>> I think the disk defragmenter is less than decent - it doesn't even show
>> you the progress or a legend. I also dislike the sound recorder - why
>> did they downgrade it. I pre-schooler who didn't know how to read could
>> use it - there's only one button. Oh well, I use Audacity for sound
>> recording now anyway.
>> Now if they could get most of these issues fixed with Vista by RTM
>> (which I bet isn't far away at all) then I might be very happy with
>> Vista. Knowing it's feature complete, I doubt the disk defragmenter and
>> the sound recorder will be replaced by now. I will, however, be pretty
>> upset if Microsoft releases Vista the way it is. I've seen quite a few
>> people on here who have had too many troubles with RC2 and had better
>> luck with RC1. The UAC does annoy me, but at least you can shut it off.
>> I feel that customizing Vista is worse than customizing XP - there aren't
>> as many options for some things such as hibernation - where can you
>> disable it now? How can you change the amount of HD space system restore
>> uses now? I can't seem to find them anymore. I even did a search for
>> Hibernation in the search box in the control panel, and it came up with a
>> result, but there was no option anywhere there for hibernation at all.
>> Now I will say that this so called RC2 is actually only an interim
>> release, so it's expected not be the greatest, but if it releases to
>> store shelves and I can't get the networking to work, I will be pretty
>> you know what. Out of the five builds of Vista I've tested, I've only
>> seen two builds that did not have network problems - PreRC1 5536 and RC1
>> 5600. I started having network problems in 5728 and this build.
>> Now I'm not saying Vista is all bad - if they could get these
>> approximately ten issues fixed, I would be pretty happy. If the network
>> doesn't work - it won't be good.
>> System Specs:
>> Asus K8N motherboard (socket 754)
>> -using onboard networking
>> AMD Sempron 64 2800+ OC'd @ 1.8GHz (Windows Experience Index Rating -
>> 3.7)
>> 1.5GB of RAM (Windows Experience Index Rating - 4.1)
>> Ati Radeon X1600 PRO AGP 8x - 256MB GDDR2 RAM (Windows Experience Index
>> Rating - graphics - 4.4, gaming graphics - 4.9)
>> WD 80GB 7200RPM 2MB cache IDE hard drive - XP
>> WD 120GB 7200RPM 8MB cache IDE hard drive - Vista 32-bit Ultimate RC2
>> 5744 on 60GB partition (Windows Experience Index Rating - 5.0)
>> Creative Audigy (5.1 24-bit)
>>
>> "Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
>> news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

>>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
>>>>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
>>>>junk.
>>>>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
>>>>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
>>>>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
>>>>security messages.
>>>>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
>>>>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
>>>>
>>>>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
>>>>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
>>> hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
>>>
>>> I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
>>> than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
>>> hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
>>> hardware when it was released.
>>>
>>> If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
>>> years ago, we understand your frustration....
>>>
>>> Major
>>>

>>

>

I have Dual core Intel with a very new motherboard.
Installation went very smooth, I have no hardware
problems, Using the 32 Bit.
Take it back, it has hard time recognizing my second
Network card network, it did for once then lost it
upon a reboot. XP was just as bad.
I just don't like the software, it is made for the
Geek Squad and computer companies to make money
trouble shooting and fixing it.


"Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
>

>>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
>>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
>>junk.
>>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
>>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
>>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
>>security messages.
>>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
>>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
>>
>>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
>>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
>>
>>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
>>

>
>
> Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
> hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
>
> I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
> than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
> hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
> hardware when it was released.
>
> If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
> years ago, we understand your frustration....
>
> Major
>

Have you considered that the reason for this might be a really crappy driver? Just because people put crap into their computer, that does not make Windows a piece of crap.
"TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote in message news:e8PX5lM7GHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
I have Dual core Intel with a very new motherboard.
Installation went very smooth, I have no hardware
problems, Using the 32 Bit.
Take it back, it has hard time recognizing my second
Network card network, it did for once then lost it
upon a reboot. XP was just as bad.
I just don't like the software, it is made for the
Geek Squad and computer companies to make money
trouble shooting and fixing it.


"Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
>

>>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
>>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
>>junk.
>>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
>>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
>>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
>>security messages.
>>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
>>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
>>
>>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
>>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
>>
>>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
>>

>
>
> Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
> hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
>
> I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
> than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
> hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
> hardware when it was released.
>
> If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
> years ago, we understand your frustration....
>
> Major
>

You are real stupid, you are full of crap.



"William" <woogles@charter.net> wrote in message
news:82708EDE-9E40-4424-8586-BF9CDB1EDC23@microsoft.com...
Have you considered that the reason for this might be a really crappy
driver? Just because people put crap into their computer, that does not make
Windows a piece of crap.
"TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote in message
news:e8PX5lM7GHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
I have Dual core Intel with a very new motherboard.
Installation went very smooth, I have no hardware
problems, Using the 32 Bit.
Take it back, it has hard time recognizing my second
Network card network, it did for once then lost it
upon a reboot. XP was just as bad.
I just don't like the software, it is made for the
Geek Squad and computer companies to make money
trouble shooting and fixing it.


"Major Drunkdey" <MajorDrunkdey@URmil.org> wrote in message
news:9u7oi2ddi76tlguto6b8545p6c9t6dshkq@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:15:26 -0700, "TedF" <NoReply@xxxmsn.com> wrote:
>

>>Vista is nothing but a screwed up XP.
>>Wasn't impressed at all, it is a pile complicated
>>junk.
>>They took XP and tweaked it, moved many things around,
>>thinking they can fool virus makers and hackers, made
>>much harder for the user with many popup worthless
>>security messages.
>>I bet it will be very hard to clean if it does get infected
>>with a virus or spyware, twenty times harder than XP.
>>
>>Unfortunately DELL, HP and all computer companies will
>>be pushing and pimping the software for Microsoft.
>>
>>Say no to Vista, stupid if you say yes.
>>

>
>
> Boy, can you tell us what you don't like. Can you tell us what your
> hardware is like. Are you trying the 32bit or 64bit.
>
> I think most of us think that it's quite good. I think it's better
> than XP at the same stage of development. I think it takes more
> hardware to run it, but what major OS upgrade hasn't needed A grade
> hardware when it was released.
>
> If your trying to load it on your eMachine you bought from Kmart two
> years ago, we understand your frustration....
>
> Major
>