Vista = Longhorn Interim

> Ironic that way back a few years ago MS said firmly that they won't
> release an interim version of Windows before Longhorn...
>
> Well, with so many features cut out of Longhorn, especially WinFS and
> the new notification mechanism (watch the Longhorn Concept Demos for
> this feature), Windows Vista really is the interim build of Longhorn.
>
> That means the real Longhorn will now become Windows Blackcomb/Vienna,
> and it will take another 3 years (expect more) for them to clean up the
> mess.
>
> This should make Vista the longest interim Windows build to make yet...
>
> P.S. WinFS is what defined Longhorn, cut it and it's not Longhorn
> anymore. I've seen so many people confused WinFS with metadata, but its
> way more than that. Everytime I watch the Longhorn Concept Videos I am
> so damned to have this unified storage where all my contacts are stored
> once and are used in all programs. No sync, no duplicates, no hassles.
> No amount of Aero Glass eye-candy can make up for that...
>
>
>

> No, people are confusing winfs with a new file system to take over
> NTFS... it was never a new file system, it was just a database scheme
> to make search/managing much easier. What they did find, was the sql
> version of server2003 which is pretty much what vista uses now is just
> as efficient for the mean time. We still may see winfs one day but if
> that's the only reason you want vista over the new security, driver
> foundation (aka no kernal mode drivers), video foundation, then "Oh
> well".
>
> <Nicholas> wrote in message
> news:uTPLKoXnGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Ironic that way back a few years ago MS said firmly that they won't
>> release an interim version of Windows before Longhorn...
>>
>> Well, with so many features cut out of Longhorn, especially WinFS and
>> the new notification mechanism (watch the Longhorn Concept Demos for
>> this feature), Windows Vista really is the interim build of Longhorn.
>>
>> That means the real Longhorn will now become Windows
>> Blackcomb/Vienna,
>> and it will take another 3 years (expect more) for them to clean up
>> the
>> mess.
>>
>> This should make Vista the longest interim Windows build to make
>> yet...
>>
>> P.S. WinFS is what defined Longhorn, cut it and it's not Longhorn
>> anymore. I've seen so many people confused WinFS with metadata, but
>> its
>> way more than that. Everytime I watch the Longhorn Concept Videos I
>> am
>> so damned to have this unified storage where all my contacts are
>> stored
>> once and are used in all programs. No sync, no duplicates, no
>> hassles.
>> No amount of Aero Glass eye-candy can make up for that...
>>
>>
>>

>

> Hi,
>
> I do want the other innovations that you mentioned but thing is without
> WinFS, the OS just isn't what it used to be...
>
> I suggest you take a look at these video clips, I think they will be of
> interest to you...
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvis...d/default.aspx
>
> The possibilities of WinFS are just amazing...
>
> Regards
>
> "Peter M" <pmcneil1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
> news:eKfWccZnGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> No, people are confusing winfs with a new file system to take over
>> NTFS... it was never a new file system, it was just a database scheme to
>> make search/managing much easier. What they did find, was the sql version
>> of server2003 which is pretty much what vista uses now is just as
>> efficient for the mean time. We still may see winfs one day but if that's
>> the only reason you want vista over the new security, driver foundation
>> (aka no kernal mode drivers), video foundation, then "Oh well".
>>
>> <Nicholas> wrote in message news:uTPLKoXnGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Ironic that way back a few years ago MS said firmly that they won't
>>> release an interim version of Windows before Longhorn...
>>>
>>> Well, with so many features cut out of Longhorn, especially WinFS and
>>> the new notification mechanism (watch the Longhorn Concept Demos for
>>> this feature), Windows Vista really is the interim build of Longhorn.
>>>
>>> That means the real Longhorn will now become Windows Blackcomb/Vienna,
>>> and it will take another 3 years (expect more) for them to clean up the
>>> mess.
>>>
>>> This should make Vista the longest interim Windows build to make yet...
>>>
>>> P.S. WinFS is what defined Longhorn, cut it and it's not Longhorn
>>> anymore. I've seen so many people confused WinFS with metadata, but its
>>> way more than that. Everytime I watch the Longhorn Concept Videos I am
>>> so damned to have this unified storage where all my contacts are stored
>>> once and are used in all programs. No sync, no duplicates, no hassles.
>>> No amount of Aero Glass eye-candy can make up for that...
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

> Those are Vista videos. What video among those videos relates to WinFS?
>
> Jon
>
> <Nicholas> wrote in message
> news:%239sKriZnGHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hi,
>>
>> I do want the other innovations that you mentioned but thing is without
>> WinFS, the OS just isn't what it used to be...
>>
>> I suggest you take a look at these video clips, I think they will be of
>> interest to you...
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvis...d/default.aspx
>>
>> The possibilities of WinFS are just amazing...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> "Peter M" <pmcneil1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eKfWccZnGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> No, people are confusing winfs with a new file system to take over
>>> NTFS... it was never a new file system, it was just a database scheme to
>>> make search/managing much easier. What they did find, was the sql
>>> version of server2003 which is pretty much what vista uses now is just
>>> as efficient for the mean time. We still may see winfs one day but if
>>> that's the only reason you want vista over the new security, driver
>>> foundation (aka no kernal mode drivers), video foundation, then "Oh
>>> well".
>>>
>>> <Nicholas> wrote in message
>>> news:uTPLKoXnGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ironic that way back a few years ago MS said firmly that they won't
>>>> release an interim version of Windows before Longhorn...
>>>>
>>>> Well, with so many features cut out of Longhorn, especially WinFS and
>>>> the new notification mechanism (watch the Longhorn Concept Demos for
>>>> this feature), Windows Vista really is the interim build of Longhorn.
>>>>
>>>> That means the real Longhorn will now become Windows Blackcomb/Vienna,
>>>> and it will take another 3 years (expect more) for them to clean up the
>>>> mess.
>>>>
>>>> This should make Vista the longest interim Windows build to make yet...
>>>>
>>>> P.S. WinFS is what defined Longhorn, cut it and it's not Longhorn
>>>> anymore. I've seen so many people confused WinFS with metadata, but its
>>>> way more than that. Everytime I watch the Longhorn Concept Videos I am
>>>> so damned to have this unified storage where all my contacts are stored
>>>> once and are used in all programs. No sync, no duplicates, no hassles.
>>>> No amount of Aero Glass eye-candy can make up for that...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

> Those are Vista videos. What video among those videos relates to
> WinFS?
>
> Jon
>
> <Nicholas> wrote in message
> news:%239sKriZnGHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hi,
>>
>> I do want the other innovations that you mentioned but thing is
>> without WinFS, the OS just isn't what it used to be...
>>
>> I suggest you take a look at these video clips, I think they will be
>> of interest to you...
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvis...d/default.aspx
>>
>> The possibilities of WinFS are just amazing...
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> "Peter M" <pmcneil1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>> news:eKfWccZnGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> No, people are confusing winfs with a new file system to take over
>>> NTFS... it was never a new file system, it was just a database
>>> scheme to make search/managing much easier. What they did find, was
>>> the sql version of server2003 which is pretty much what vista uses
>>> now is just as efficient for the mean time. We still may see winfs
>>> one day but if that's the only reason you want vista over the new
>>> security, driver foundation (aka no kernal mode drivers), video
>>> foundation, then "Oh well".
>>>
>>> <Nicholas> wrote in message
>>> news:uTPLKoXnGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ironic that way back a few years ago MS said firmly that they won't
>>>> release an interim version of Windows before Longhorn...
>>>>
>>>> Well, with so many features cut out of Longhorn, especially WinFS
>>>> and
>>>> the new notification mechanism (watch the Longhorn Concept Demos
>>>> for
>>>> this feature), Windows Vista really is the interim build of
>>>> Longhorn.
>>>>
>>>> That means the real Longhorn will now become Windows
>>>> Blackcomb/Vienna,
>>>> and it will take another 3 years (expect more) for them to clean up
>>>> the
>>>> mess.
>>>>
>>>> This should make Vista the longest interim Windows build to make
>>>> yet...
>>>>
>>>> P.S. WinFS is what defined Longhorn, cut it and it's not Longhorn
>>>> anymore. I've seen so many people confused WinFS with metadata, but
>>>> its
>>>> way more than that. Everytime I watch the Longhorn Concept Videos I
>>>> am
>>>> so damned to have this unified storage where all my contacts are
>>>> stored
>>>> once and are used in all programs. No sync, no duplicates, no
>>>> hassles.
>>>> No amount of Aero Glass eye-candy can make up for that...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

>>> ...without WinFS, the OS just isn't what it used to be...

>
> So true. Vista is like a WinFS tease. But it's a step in the right
> direction and a chance to get your data store whipped into shape so
> you're ready to roll when the big guns arrive.
>
>
> "Jon Davis" <jon@REMOVE.ME.PLEASE.jondavis.net> wrote in message
> news:eLcU%2300sGHA.1888@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Those are Vista videos. What video among those videos relates to
>> WinFS?
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> <Nicholas> wrote in message
>> news:%239sKriZnGHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I do want the other innovations that you mentioned but thing is
>>> without WinFS, the OS just isn't what it used to be...
>>>
>>> I suggest you take a look at these video clips, I think they will be
>>> of interest to you...
>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/windowsvis...d/default.aspx
>>>
>>> The possibilities of WinFS are just amazing...
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> "Peter M" <pmcneil1@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:eKfWccZnGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> No, people are confusing winfs with a new file system to take over
>>>> NTFS... it was never a new file system, it was just a database
>>>> scheme to make search/managing much easier. What they did find, was
>>>> the sql version of server2003 which is pretty much what vista uses
>>>> now is just as efficient for the mean time. We still may see winfs
>>>> one day but if that's the only reason you want vista over the new
>>>> security, driver foundation (aka no kernal mode drivers), video
>>>> foundation, then "Oh well".
>>>>
>>>> <Nicholas> wrote in message
>>>> news:uTPLKoXnGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ironic that way back a few years ago MS said firmly that they
>>>>> won't
>>>>> release an interim version of Windows before Longhorn...
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, with so many features cut out of Longhorn, especially WinFS
>>>>> and
>>>>> the new notification mechanism (watch the Longhorn Concept Demos
>>>>> for
>>>>> this feature), Windows Vista really is the interim build of
>>>>> Longhorn.
>>>>>
>>>>> That means the real Longhorn will now become Windows
>>>>> Blackcomb/Vienna,
>>>>> and it will take another 3 years (expect more) for them to clean
>>>>> up the
>>>>> mess.
>>>>>
>>>>> This should make Vista the longest interim Windows build to make
>>>>> yet...
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. WinFS is what defined Longhorn, cut it and it's not Longhorn
>>>>> anymore. I've seen so many people confused WinFS with metadata,
>>>>> but its
>>>>> way more than that. Everytime I watch the Longhorn Concept Videos
>>>>> I am
>>>>> so damned to have this unified storage where all my contacts are
>>>>> stored
>>>>> once and are used in all programs. No sync, no duplicates, no
>>>>> hassles.
>>>>> No amount of Aero Glass eye-candy can make up for that...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>