Vista Meltdown...

Posted: 08-16-2006, 04:57 AM

ret4425

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I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that were
running on startup are disappearing, literally!

For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file folder
manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert for
no anti virus installed.

Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD 2
and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...

Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...

Responses to "Vista Meltdown..."

Chad Harris

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Re: Vista Meltdown...--Try SR or Startup Repair

Posted: 08-16-2006, 06:05 AM

I would try a system restore and if that doesn't help you may be able to
correct some of this with Startup repair:

What It Can Do:

If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
it can perform):

Registry Corruptions

Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
of them

Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
but present newer builds)

Incompatible Driver Installation

Incompatible OS update installations

Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.

How to Use Startup Repair:

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***

1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx

Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp

3) Select your OS for repair.

4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
theWin RE feature:

You'll have a choice there of using:

1) Startup Repair
2) System Restore
3) Complete PC Restore

Good luck,

CH

"ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...

>I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
>were
> running on startup are disappearing, literally!
>
> For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
> does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
> folder
> manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
> Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert
> for
> no anti virus installed.
>
> Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD
> 2
> and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
>
> Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...

Chad Harris

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Re: Vista Meltdown...

Posted: 08-16-2006, 06:45 AM

Ret--

I'm sure this goes without saying, but I would urge to run 2-3 spyware
scans, and regular AV scans. I would reflexly recommend that you run System
File Checker, but as of Beta 2 or 5384.5 whatever teams are responsible for
getting it working had not been able to, so I'm unable to recommend it for
that build. I fully believe that whether they fix it or not, they are
determined to ship it broken if necessary. People will begin to ID in vivid
detail an extensive list of what's broken,not fixed, was not included in
Vista no matter how much MSFT hides its bugs and their context from the
public.

If you're not familiar it is supposed to scan file signatures and replace
good ones with bad from DLLCache in the System 32 folder. In XP it was one
of your best resources. In Vista many of its switches remain broken in the
bum's rush to RTM.

CH

"ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...

>I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
>were
> running on startup are disappearing, literally!
>
> For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
> does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
> folder
> manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
> Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert
> for
> no anti virus installed.
>
> Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD
> 2
> and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
>
> Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...

ret4425

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Re: Vista Meltdown...--Try SR or Startup Repair

Posted: 08-16-2006, 06:56 AM

Thanks, Chad. I am using Build 5384, and I do not have that option. Is
there another way to get it?

Thanks!
"Chad Harris" wrote:

> I would try a system restore and if that doesn't help you may be able to
> correct some of this with Startup repair:
>
> What It Can Do:
>
> If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
> the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
> works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
> it can perform):
>
> Registry Corruptions
>
> Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
> of them
>
> Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
> but present newer builds)
>
> Incompatible Driver Installation
>
> Incompatible OS update installations
>
> Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.
>
> How to Use Startup Repair:
>
> ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
>
> 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
>
> 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
> lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>
> Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
> http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
>
> Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
> http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp
>
> 3) Select your OS for repair.
>
> 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
> theWin RE feature:
>
> You'll have a choice there of using:
>
> 1) Startup Repair
> 2) System Restore
> 3) Complete PC Restore
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...
> >I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
> >were
> > running on startup are disappearing, literally!
> >
> > For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
> > does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
> > folder
> > manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
> > Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert
> > for
> > no anti virus installed.
> >
> > Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD
> > 2
> > and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
> >
> > Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...
>
>
>

ret4425

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Re: Vista Meltdown...--Try SR or Startup Repair

Posted: 08-16-2006, 06:56 AM

Thanks, Chad. I am using Build 5384, and I do not have that option. Is
there another way to get it?

Thanks!

"Chad Harris" wrote:

> I would try a system restore and if that doesn't help you may be able to
> correct some of this with Startup repair:
>
> What It Can Do:
>
> If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
> the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
> works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
> it can perform):
>
> Registry Corruptions
>
> Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
> of them
>
> Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
> but present newer builds)
>
> Incompatible Driver Installation
>
> Incompatible OS update installations
>
> Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.
>
> How to Use Startup Repair:
>
> ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
>
> 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
>
> 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
> lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>
> Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
> http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
>
> Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
> http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp
>
> 3) Select your OS for repair.
>
> 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
> theWin RE feature:
>
> You'll have a choice there of using:
>
> 1) Startup Repair
> 2) System Restore
> 3) Complete PC Restore
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...
> >I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
> >were
> > running on startup are disappearing, literally!
> >
> > For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
> > does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
> > folder
> > manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
> > Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert
> > for
> > no anti virus installed.
> >
> > Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD
> > 2
> > and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
> >
> > Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...
>
>
>

Chad Harris

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Re: Vista Meltdown...--Try SR or Startup Repair from the DVD setup screen.

Posted: 08-16-2006, 07:10 AM

You can get to Startup Repair as the directions say Ret by installing the
DVD if you have a DVD and I have screenshots for where you access it.

***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the

>> lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>>
>> Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
>> http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
>>
>> Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
>> http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp

I urge you to give it a try because there is no downside.

CH

"ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0F555E68-39C6-436C-8C43-DF5C6E12F6AD@microsoft.com...

> Thanks, Chad. I am using Build 5384, and I do not have that option. Is
> there another way to get it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Chad Harris" wrote:
>
>> I would try a system restore and if that doesn't help you may be able to
>> correct some of this with Startup repair:
>>
>> What It Can Do:
>>
>> If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and
>> repair
>> the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
>> works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major
>> tasks
>> it can perform):
>>
>> Registry Corruptions
>>
>> Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at
>> all
>> of them
>>
>> Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
>> Checker
>> but present newer builds)
>>
>> Incompatible Driver Installation
>>
>> Incompatible OS update installations
>>
>> Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.
>>
>> How to Use Startup Repair:
>>
>> ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
>>
>> 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
>>
>> 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in
>> the
>> lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>>
>> Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
>> http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
>>
>> Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
>> http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp
>>
>> 3) Select your OS for repair.
>>
>> 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
>> theWin RE feature:
>>
>> You'll have a choice there of using:
>>
>> 1) Startup Repair
>> 2) System Restore
>> 3) Complete PC Restore
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...
>> >I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
>> >were
>> > running on startup are disappearing, literally!
>> >
>> > For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now,
>> > it
>> > does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
>> > folder
>> > manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program
>> > listing.
>> > Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security
>> > alert
>> > for
>> > no anti virus installed.
>> >
>> > Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting
>> > COD
>> > 2
>> > and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
>> >
>> > Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...
>>
>>
>>

Mario Rosario

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Re: Vista Meltdown...

Posted: 08-16-2006, 01:56 PM

It's not a Dell laptop is it? Is it on fire?

"ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...

> I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that

were

> running on startup are disappearing, literally!
>
> For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
> does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file

folder

> manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
> Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert

for

> no anti virus installed.
>
> Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD

> and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
>
> Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...

Chad Harris

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Posts: n/a

Re: Vista Meltdown...

Posted: 08-16-2006, 02:34 PM

6/2.5 million so far. But one sure burned up a truck on the way to a
fishing trip the other day and exploded the ammo in the glove compartment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/15/te...gy&oref=slogin

And it is potentially obviously dangerous--the batteries were from Sony and
in the 4.1 million recalled the new batteries will be from Sony.

CH

"Mario Rosario" <mario@webacre.com> wrote in message
news:OIciMNTwGHA.4756@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> It's not a Dell laptop is it? Is it on fire?
>
> "ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...
>> I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
> were
>> running on startup are disappearing, literally!
>>
>> For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now,
>> it
>> does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
> folder
>> manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program
>> listing.
>> Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert
> for
>> no anti virus installed.
>>
>> Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting
>> COD
> 2
>> and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
>>
>> Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...
>
>

geo85706

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Re: Vista Meltdown...--Try SR or Startup Repair

Posted: 08-16-2006, 02:54 PM

you need to boot from dvd to get the start up repair option. reading the dvd
from inside vista does not give you the option.
--
geo

"ret4425" wrote:

>
> Thanks, Chad. I am using Build 5384, and I do not have that option. Is
> there another way to get it?
>
> Thanks!
> "Chad Harris" wrote:
>
> > I would try a system restore and if that doesn't help you may be able to
> > correct some of this with Startup repair:
> >
> > What It Can Do:
> >
> > If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and repair
> > the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when it
> > works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major tasks
> > it can perform):
> >
> > Registry Corruptions
> >
> > Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at all
> > of them
> >
> > Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File Checker
> > but present newer builds)
> >
> > Incompatible Driver Installation
> >
> > Incompatible OS update installations
> >
> > Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.
> >
> > How to Use Startup Repair:
> >
> > ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
> >
> > 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
> >
> > 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in the
> > lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
> >
> > Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
> > http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
> >
> > Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
> > http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp
> >
> > 3) Select your OS for repair.
> >
> > 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash from
> > theWin RE feature:
> >
> > You'll have a choice there of using:
> >
> > 1) Startup Repair
> > 2) System Restore
> > 3) Complete PC Restore
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > CH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...
> > >I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs that
> > >were
> > > running on startup are disappearing, literally!
> > >
> > > For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working. Now, it
> > > does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the file
> > > folder
> > > manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program listing.
> > > Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security alert
> > > for
> > > no anti virus installed.
> > >
> > > Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems getting COD
> > > 2
> > > and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
> > >
> > > Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...
> >
> >
> >

Chad Harris

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Re: Vista Meltdown...--Try SR or Startup Repair

Posted: 08-16-2006, 06:21 PM

That's included in any reference I make to StR.

***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):

*1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD youburned)

2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options in
the
lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***

CH

"geo85706" <geo85706@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:69C72CEE-0F8E-4B7A-B75A-538C5F47946E@microsoft.com...

> you need to boot from dvd to get the start up repair option. reading the
> dvd
> from inside vista does not give you the option.
> --
> geo
>
>
> "ret4425" wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Chad. I am using Build 5384, and I do not have that option. Is
>> there another way to get it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> "Chad Harris" wrote:
>>
>> > I would try a system restore and if that doesn't help you may be able
>> > to
>> > correct some of this with Startup repair:
>> >
>> > What It Can Do:
>> >
>> > If you run Win RE's Startup Repair in Vista, it will try to check and
>> > repair
>> > the following and we're taking about under three minutes usually when
>> > it
>> > works which is often: (this is not a complete list but a list of major
>> > tasks
>> > it can perform):
>> >
>> > Registry Corruptions
>> >
>> > Missing/corrupt driver files (you don't have to guess here--it looks at
>> > all
>> > of them
>> >
>> > Missing/corrupt system files (disabled in Beta 2 as is System File
>> > Checker
>> > but present newer builds)
>> >
>> > Incompatible Driver Installation
>> >
>> > Incompatible OS update installations
>> >
>> > Startup Repair may offer a dialogue box to use System restore.
>> >
>> > How to Use Startup Repair:
>> >
>> > ***Accessing Windows RE (Repair Environment):***
>> >
>> > 1) Insert Media into PC (the DVD you burned)
>> >
>> > 2) ***You will see on the Vista logo setup screen after lang. options
>> > in the
>> > lower left corner, a link called "System Recovery Options."***
>> >
>> > Screenshot: System Recovery Options (Lower Left Link)
>> > http://blogs.itecn.net/photos/liuhui...4/500x375.aspx
>> >
>> > Screenshot: (Click first option "Startup Repair"
>> > http://www.leedesmond.com/images/img...SysRecOpt2.bmp
>> >
>> > 3) Select your OS for repair.
>> >
>> > 4) Its been my experience that you can see some causes of the crash
>> > from
>> > theWin RE feature:
>> >
>> > You'll have a choice there of using:
>> >
>> > 1) Startup Repair
>> > 2) System Restore
>> > 3) Complete PC Restore
>> >
>> > Good luck,
>> >
>> > CH
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "ret4425" <ret4425@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:C744D842-8CBF-431A-A4FD-4E0D3702FDAE@microsoft.com...
>> > >I am now experiencing a gradual Vista meltdown of sorts...programs
>> > >that
>> > >were
>> > > running on startup are disappearing, literally!
>> > >
>> > > For example, I have a Keyspan print server installed and working.
>> > > Now, it
>> > > does not appear in my start menu. I can navigate to it, find the
>> > > file
>> > > folder
>> > > manually, and launch the program, but it is gone from the program
>> > > listing.
>> > > Now, PC Cillin has disappeared as well and I am showing a security
>> > > alert
>> > > for
>> > > no anti virus installed.
>> > >
>> > > Ding from Southwest is gone too and I am having hella problems
>> > > getting COD
>> > > 2
>> > > and COD UO to launch at all. I guess Beta 2 wasn't for me...
>> > >
>> > > Good luck, unless anyone has heard of this craziness...
>> >
>> >
>> >

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