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Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.

Posted: 01-28-2007, 03:49 AM
kda
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Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:

If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
Retail License (yes the expensive one)?

I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.

Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
is there a WMVP that would know?

Thanks.
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Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-28-2007, 04:17 AM
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 03:49:10 +0000, kda wrote:
> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a factual
> answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type answers that
> seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
>
> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will I be
> able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full Retail
> License (yes the expensive one)?
>
> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I do
> not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
>
> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or is there a
> WMVP that would know?
>
> Thanks.

MOST windows products do install as an upgrade. You start your system, and
then insert the disc in your DVD drive, select Install or Upgrade and
follow the screens.

But, if the OEM is tied to a certain manufacturer, it may not install on
your system! I was working at one place and got a bunch of copies of WIN2K
for Dell systems. They were linked to install on a machine with a Dell
BIOS only. Make sure before you shell out $$$ that it will install on your
machine...

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Carey Frisch [MVP]
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-28-2007, 04:41 AM
The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.


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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"kda" wrote:

Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:

If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
Retail License (yes the expensive one)?

I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.

Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
is there a WMVP that would know?

Thanks.
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Stu
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-28-2007, 07:59 AM
Carey,

Totally and utterly incorrect. I have just done exactly this to a system I
recently built.

The full OEM disk can be used to upgrade an existing XP set up

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
>
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "kda" wrote:
>
> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
> factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
> answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
>
> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
> I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
> Retail License (yes the expensive one)?
>
> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
> do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
>
> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
> is there a WMVP that would know?
>
> Thanks.
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Rick Rogers
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-28-2007, 01:22 PM
You have a Vista generic OEM disk, Stu? I don't know of anyone that does as
it has not been released yet.

The current understanding of generic OEM full version disks is that they can
only be used for a clean install to a formatted disk. In the case of XP, one
could do a repair install to an existing system with an OEM disk, but not
use it to upgrade from Win2000, NT4, Win98, or WinME.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
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"Stu" <Stu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Carey,
>
> Totally and utterly incorrect. I have just done exactly this to a system I
> recently built.
>
> The full OEM disk can be used to upgrade an existing XP set up
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
>> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
>> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
>> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "kda" wrote:
>>
>> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
>> factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
>> answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
>>
>> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
>> I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
>> Retail License (yes the expensive one)?
>>
>> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
>> do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
>>
>> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
>> is there a WMVP that would know?
>>
>> Thanks.
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-28-2007, 02:22 PM
Stu

So far, it has been possible to upgrade over the top of an OEM installation,
but never been possible to upgrade during an OEM installation.. it will be
interesting to see how right you are?


"Stu" <Stu@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E2A5FC8D-2DBF-48AA-B63E-B56034C3EC48@microsoft.com...
> Carey,
>
> Totally and utterly incorrect. I have just done exactly this to a system I
> recently built.
>
> The full OEM disk can be used to upgrade an existing XP set up
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
>> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
>> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
>> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "kda" wrote:
>>
>> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
>> factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
>> answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
>>
>> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
>> I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
>> Retail License (yes the expensive one)?
>>
>> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
>> do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
>>
>> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
>> is there a WMVP that would know?
>>
>> Thanks.
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baimo
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-28-2007, 09:28 PM
I bought oem ultimate version from newegg and upgraded my windowsxp without
any incident.
I did not feel like waiting a month for my free dellvista upgrade to arrive.



"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
>
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "kda" wrote:
>
> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
> factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
> answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
>
> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
> I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
> Retail License (yes the expensive one)?
>
> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
> do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
>
> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
> is there a WMVP that would know?
>
> Thanks.
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JW
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-29-2007, 12:13 AM
Were you able to upgade your XP installation with all files, settings etc
intact? Or did you just install the OEM version as a new installation which
I think is what is designed to do.
"baimo" <baimo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I bought oem ultimate version from newegg and upgraded my windowsxp without
> any incident.
> I did not feel like waiting a month for my free dellvista upgrade to
> arrive.
>
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
>> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
>> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
>> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "kda" wrote:
>>
>> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
>> factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
>> answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
>>
>> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
>> I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
>> Retail License (yes the expensive one)?
>>
>> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
>> do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
>>
>> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
>> is there a WMVP that would know?
>>
>> Thanks.

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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 01-29-2007, 08:56 PM
I upgraded my xp installataion. Only hitch was that my roxio media creator 9
expired for some reason. I had to uninstLL AND REINSTALL. No problems now at
all.

"JW" wrote:
> Were you able to upgade your XP installation with all files, settings etc
> intact? Or did you just install the OEM version as a new installation which
> I think is what is designed to do.
> "baimo" <baimo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:12BB330E-8958-4B6B-9267-0333A54AFC05@microsoft.com...
> >I bought oem ultimate version from newegg and upgraded my windowsxp without
> > any incident.
> > I did not feel like waiting a month for my free dellvista upgrade to
> > arrive.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
> >> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
> >> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
> >> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carey Frisch
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "kda" wrote:
> >>
> >> Please, I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I am looking for a
> >> factual answer, if possible, and not speculation or "I think" type
> >> answers that seem to plague this board. THE QUESTION IS:
> >>
> >> If I buy Vista Ultimate OEM from a company like NewEgg for $199, will
> >> I be able to install it as an UPGRADE over my existing WinXP Pro Full
> >> Retail License (yes the expensive one)?
> >>
> >> I am looking to install as an upgrade (not full install) if I can as I
> >> do not really want to have to set everything up all over again.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know "FOR A FACT", i.e., personal experience or
> >> is there a WMVP that would know?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
>
>
>
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Re: Vista OEM - will it install as an upgrade.
Posted: 02-06-2007, 02:06 AM
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> The answer is no. An OEM version of Windows Vista cannot
> perform an upgrade over Windows XP. OEM versions must
> be installed on a reformatted drive, known as a "clean install".
> Only "Retail Versions" of Vista can perform an upgrade.
.... but PC Magazine writes:

"Microsoft Answers 'Vista OEM' Questions - 01.29.07 [...]
The OEM version of the Vista versions lacks a manual, but includes a "Quick
Start" installation guide, Brown said. The Vista OEM versions will allow a
user either to do a fresh installation, or to upgrade their previous Windows
XP installation, she said."

Source:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2087792,00.asp

Now is that right?


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