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Re: *Vista Push Back Article*

Posted: 08-05-2006, 07:38 AM
Chad Harris
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"Maybe a little paranoid, but ok... There are more negative posts in here
thanyours, and they are still here, but who knows. Maybe Bill Gates really
is
stalking you. You better lock your doors tonight."
--
Robert Firth Saturday, August 05, 2006 1:05 AM

Nope. It's not Bill Gates. There are definite messages and it wouldn't let
me post a screenshot although screenshots much larger than that can be
posted so the weazle is blocking it. That's the quintessence of this
company's arrogance.

Gates rarely looks at a newsgroup or blog on the MSFT site with the
exception of Rob Scoble's who wasn't on a MSFT site when he was there.
It's some bottom feeder who has no better job than trying to censor this
group. Probably an orange badge who can't do much else for MSFT. Community
is the job I'd want the very least at MSFT. It's completely uncreative, and
despite all the Betsy Akoy hoopla and Lili Cheng hoopla about community
dynamics, this is a person who can't even fix their web site for groups and
wastes time censoring people who give their time to this company's products
because their PSS is Convergys of Ohio and absolutely sucks (minimum wage
poorly trained butss in seats mostly in India who speak poor English).

MSFT publicly says it wants feedback but they do everything they can to
supress it.



_______________

Either paranoid or my posts being crossed out lol are the work of the devil
possibly?

I think the one that was headed "I wouldn't trust MSFT" struck a cord, but I
was serious. When Colin says he's on a beta chat and they say we're fixing
this bug in RC1 or RC2 I've been seeing that stuff for months and a lot
doesn't get fixed.

Also sometimesI have trouble responding to Colin--maybe he has editorial
privileges. Who knows?

Everytime this is done I will find a way to make sure that it is posted on
the group and elsewhere to show how paranoid MSFT is of Vista criticism.

CH





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Re: *Vista Push Back Article*
Posted: 08-05-2006, 06:04 PM
I have noticed some of your posts being deleted after I have downloaded the
header and before I have downloaded the content.

As I understand it, this is an unmoderated newsgroups.

I hate to immediately jump to the conclusion that MS is censoring the
newsgroup ... perhaps there is some technological issue at work here? Maybe
some of your posts are being malformed or a spam censor is picking up your
posts for some reason.

- JB

Vista Support FAQ
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/

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Re: *Vista Push Back Article*
Posted: 08-05-2006, 06:58 PM
I have noticed that his messages have been deleted, or have gone missing
somehow.

I just think that Microsoft has bigger things to worry about that what Chad
Harris has to say. No offense, but there are definately bigger things to
worry about.
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"Jimmy Brush" wrote:
> I have noticed some of your posts being deleted after I have downloaded the
> header and before I have downloaded the content.
>
> As I understand it, this is an unmoderated newsgroups.
>
> I hate to immediately jump to the conclusion that MS is censoring the
> newsgroup ... perhaps there is some technological issue at work here? Maybe
> some of your posts are being malformed or a spam censor is picking up your
> posts for some reason.
>
> - JB
>
> Vista Support FAQ
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>
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Chad Harris
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Re: *Vista Push Back Article*
Posted: 08-05-2006, 07:15 PM
Absolutely. Almost anything that crawls or moves has bigger things to worry
about than what Chad Harris has to say. But some bottom feeder who is
monitoring communities afraid to ID herself in some cases and himself in
others, who couldn't begin to solve Vista, XP or Office problems is zapping
them. I wish it (they) would crawl out of their Redmond hole.

CH


"firth" <firth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E8E3809A-B56D-4DDF-A0A3-4AF5E84BE467@microsoft.com...
>I have noticed that his messages have been deleted, or have gone missing
> somehow.
>
> I just think that Microsoft has bigger things to worry about that what
> Chad
> Harris has to say. No offense, but there are definately bigger things to
> worry about.
> --
> Robert Firth
>
>
>
>
> "Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>
>> I have noticed some of your posts being deleted after I have downloaded
>> the
>> header and before I have downloaded the content.
>>
>> As I understand it, this is an unmoderated newsgroups.
>>
>> I hate to immediately jump to the conclusion that MS is censoring the
>> newsgroup ... perhaps there is some technological issue at work here?
>> Maybe
>> some of your posts are being malformed or a spam censor is picking up
>> your
>> posts for some reason.
>>
>> - JB
>>
>> Vista Support FAQ
>> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>>

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Re: *Vista Push Back Article*
Posted: 08-05-2006, 10:19 PM
Chad Harris wrote:
> Absolutely. Almost anything that crawls or moves has bigger things
> to worry about than what Chad Harris has to say. But some bottom
> feeder who is monitoring communities afraid to ID herself in some
> cases and himself in others, who couldn't begin to solve Vista, XP or
> Office problems is zapping them. I wish it (they) would crawl out of
> their Redmond hole.
It seems that more unexplained deletions are taking place recently over
all the microsoft NGs. Of course, as it is their groups and (for many of
us) their servers they can cancel any messages they like, I suppose.

But (except in the cases of deleting spam or incitement to piracy) they
aren't doing themselves any favours, kinda like the WGA stuff where they
seem determined to exercise their rights to upset millions of legitimate
customers in order to inconveniance a few thousand possible thieves. Of
course it could be that they're paranoid about Vista given all the delays,
the fact it runs like a goat with 2 legs chopped off and is in prime
position to be the most important and advanced version of Windows since
Windows Millennium.


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Blog Site - http://www.robertmoir.com
Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
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I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked:
"Have you checked (event viewer / syslog)".


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Chad Harris
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Re: *Vista Push Back Article*
Posted: 08-05-2006, 11:14 PM
Rob--

I appreciate your post and analogies.

It may be their servers, but I don't have to put up with their censorship,
and the people they employ in Communities are so consumately stupid I can
find a gamut of ways to get my messages posted. I don't take orders from
MSFT.

I really find it disingenuous of them to say they welcome criticism out of
one mouth, and to tamp it out with the other one.

I find it disingenuous that they pretend the want public feedback, send the
public links to a Connect site they have no access to, and won't post the
bugs and context disposition of them for the public to see.

WGA is spyware, and their lying about turning over info to the government
is building chronic distrust.

CH

"Robert Moir" <robspamtrap+msnews@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eLbEeTNuGHA.5056@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Chad Harris wrote:
>> Absolutely. Almost anything that crawls or moves has bigger things
>> to worry about than what Chad Harris has to say. But some bottom
>> feeder who is monitoring communities afraid to ID herself in some
>> cases and himself in others, who couldn't begin to solve Vista, XP or
>> Office problems is zapping them. I wish it (they) would crawl out of
>> their Redmond hole.
>
> It seems that more unexplained deletions are taking place recently over
> all the microsoft NGs. Of course, as it is their groups and (for many of
> us) their servers they can cancel any messages they like, I suppose.
>
> But (except in the cases of deleting spam or incitement to piracy) they
> aren't doing themselves any favours, kinda like the WGA stuff where they
> seem determined to exercise their rights to upset millions of legitimate
> customers in order to inconveniance a few thousand possible thieves. Of
> course it could be that they're paranoid about Vista given all the delays,
> the fact it runs like a goat with 2 legs chopped off and is in prime
> position to be the most important and advanced version of Windows since
> Windows Millennium.
>
>
> --
> --
> Rob Moir, Microsoft MVP for Security
> Blog Site - http://www.robertmoir.com
> Virtual PC 2004 FAQ -
> http://www.robertmoir.co.uk/win/VirtualPC2004FAQ.html
> I'm always surprised at "professionals" who STILL have to be asked:
> "Have you checked (event viewer / syslog)".
>

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