Re: Vista Registry Cleaner - As Every PC Deserves the Best!

Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> NTRegOpt is not a registry cleaner.
>
> John
>
> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Errant Twaddle.
>>
>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE.
>>
>> It's safe and easy to use.
>>
>> Freeware.

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
*useful* purpose, to start with.)


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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

I second that. Those cleaner softwares will only do harm than good -
especially for non-technical users. Worst is that their ads is
becoming misleading nowadays and luring more users. And the sad part
is that people think that the higher number a cleaner can detect a
junk and clean them, the better it will be. But those softwares are
just preprogrammed cleaners. They'll clean anything without even
knowing what the objects actually means and what will affect. Sure,
they'll clean them right - along with other minor system objects.
They'll cripple the system little by little. When the system has been
noticeably unstable, it would be too late since the damage has been
done all over the place - in small parts. Nuff said.


Bruce Chambers wrote:

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> > Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
> > clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>
>
> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it
> clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any registry
> cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't serve any
> *useful* purpose, to start with.)

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>
>
> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
the culprit...

An "orphaned entry" will never be accessed since the application that
wrote the key is gone. Nothing bad can happen from an orphaned entry.
It's just like a channel position on your television that has no station
attached to it.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

HeyBub wrote:

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
>> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
>> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
>> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

>
> Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
> the culprit...
>
>

Nonsense...

CCleaner is an:

Excellent...

Safe...

Registry Cleaner.

I've been using it for several years now with good results.
--
DSH
Lux et Veritas et Libertas
Vires et Honor

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner.

HeyBub wrote:

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional applications
>> installed, and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
>> CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned
>> registry entries and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making
>> it clearly a *worthless* product, in this regard. (Not that any
>> registry cleaner can ever be anything but worthless, as they don't
>> serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

>
> Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS installation was
> the culprit...
>
>

Yes, of course I checked them; Wouldn't have been much of a test,
otherwise. They weren't remnants of the OS installation; all (dozens,
I'd noticed the trend by then) of the ones I checked were legitimate keys.


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

f'ups set to reduce silly waste of ether

> Bruce Chambers wrote:

>> D. Spencer Hines wrote:

>>> Use NTREGOPT.EXE and CCleaner in tandem and your registry will be
>>> clean as a hound's tooth and nicely compacted.

>>
>>
>> CCleaner is worthless as a registry cleaner. I tried the latest
>> version on a brand-new OS installation with no additional
>> applications installed, and certainly none installed and then
>> uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred
>> allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
>> "suspicious" files, making it clearly a *worthless* product, in this
>> regard. (Not that any registry cleaner can ever be anything but
>> worthless, as they don't serve any *useful* purpose, to start with.)

>
> Did you check any of the "orphaned entries?" Perhaps the OS
> installation was the culprit...

The orphaned entries aren't actual problems unless their quantity gets
so high it takes noticeable time for the os to traverse them. They are
mostly "in case" type crap that MS puts all over the place for future
use, but they are not necessary to have. It's similar to the stuff left
over after you uninstall an MS program; it leaves the folders and a
bunch of files there on the disk and in the registry "just in case" you
reinstall it or are upgrading something. When their numbers reach a few
thousand after a year or so, there can be noticeably longer boot times
associated with all the crapola strewn all over the place, especially
when you consider that some of the registry hives only exist after boot
time; they are created on the fly during boot up, and then during normal
day to day registry reads/writes they are all excess and useless data
that has to be looked at and discarded. The registry is a database but
it's not really a relational database; it's much closer to a flat
database in most of the ways it runs.
The time to run things like ccleaner is after a machine is installed
and running; it's pretty much a waste of time right after a clean
install of windows anyway. There may not have been near as many after
everything was installed, but I've never been sure whether in
installation uses and already created point in the registry or goes
ahead and creates it own anyway.
If you're so inclined, there are some registry monitoring programs
(regmon for instance) that are interesting to watch at work. An install
usually creates a gazillion temporary files, its own install files get
copied to disk, get uncompressed, the install happens, and then
supposedly they are removed from the disk and from the registry,
although that seldom happens completely. It's an interesting process to
watch at work.

Twayne