Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled

Posted: 11-29-2008, 01:17 PM

I made recently following experience with my vista business 32bits.

UAC disabled.
When logged on as an user from adminstrative group my 3rd party firewall
can't be started with administrative privileges. Attempts to change
settings of that firewall result in error message like "You haven't
sufficient access rights".
Starting that firewall using "Run as..." doesn't help.

Applications can't be started with administrative access rights if
logged-in as limited rights user and using "Run as..." option.
While using run-as I expect to get administrator password prompt.
That doesn't occur. After having selected run-as option from icon's
context menu the application starts as normally.
I can recognize that application started this way runs with limited
rights because my mail client fetches local mails stored in
the limited user's profile directory, not the adminstrator's one.

Is this a wanted behaviour of Vista when UAC disabled ?
If not, what can be the reason of this behaviour ?

Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled


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GTS
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Re: Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled
Posted: 11-29-2008, 03:56 PM
Disabling UAC can have varying impact on programs, sometimes depending on
whether they were installed with UAC on or off. I recommend not disabling
UAC, but if you want to, a better solution is to use the TweakUAC utility to
set UAC to quiet mode. It gets rid of the prompts without causing these
kinds of problems.

http://www.tweak-uac.com/home/
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"kakii" <user@domain.co> wrote in message
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>
> I made recently following experience with my vista business 32bits.
>
> UAC disabled.
> When logged on as an user from adminstrative group my 3rd party firewall
> can't be started with administrative privileges. Attempts to change
> settings of that firewall result in error message like "You haven't
> sufficient access rights".
> Starting that firewall using "Run as..." doesn't help.
>
> Applications can't be started with administrative access rights if
> logged-in as limited rights user and using "Run as..." option.
> While using run-as I expect to get administrator password prompt.
> That doesn't occur. After having selected run-as option from icon's
> context menu the application starts as normally.
> I can recognize that application started this way runs with limited
> rights because my mail client fetches local mails stored in
> the limited user's profile directory, not the adminstrator's one.
>
> Is this a wanted behaviour of Vista when UAC disabled ?
> If not, what can be the reason of this behaviour ?
kakii
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Re: Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled
Posted: 11-29-2008, 06:03 PM


but generally "Run-As..." should work also with UAC disabled.
That's no deal of none application, it's Windows !
Am I wrong ?




GTS wrote:
> Disabling UAC can have varying impact on programs, sometimes depending
> on whether they were installed with UAC on or off. I recommend not
> disabling UAC, but if you want to, a better solution is to use the
> TweakUAC utility to set UAC to quiet mode. It gets rid of the prompts
> without causing these kinds of problems.
>
> http://www.tweak-uac.com/home/
> --
>
> "kakii" <user@domain.co> wrote in message
> news:%23qWqWTiUJHA.6044@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> I made recently following experience with my vista business 32bits.
>>
>> UAC disabled.
>> When logged on as an user from adminstrative group my 3rd party firewall
>> can't be started with administrative privileges. Attempts to change
>> settings of that firewall result in error message like "You haven't
>> sufficient access rights".
>> Starting that firewall using "Run as..." doesn't help.
>>
>> Applications can't be started with administrative access rights if
>> logged-in as limited rights user and using "Run as..." option.
>> While using run-as I expect to get administrator password prompt.
>> That doesn't occur. After having selected run-as option from icon's
>> context menu the application starts as normally.
>> I can recognize that application started this way runs with limited
>> rights because my mail client fetches local mails stored in
>> the limited user's profile directory, not the adminstrator's one.
>>
>> Is this a wanted behaviour of Vista when UAC disabled ?
>> If not, what can be the reason of this behaviour ?
>
Jimmy Brush
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Re: Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled
Posted: 11-29-2008, 08:44 PM
The "run as" explorer menu command has been replaced by the "run as
administrator" menu command. "Run as administrator" is a component of UAC,
and thus is not available when UAC is disabled.

However, the "runas" command-line tool still exists and can be used.

With UAC disabled, all programs have administrative rights when you are
logged in as an administrator, regardless of whatever error message is
displayed. You may try right-clicking the misbehaving program, clicking
properties, clicking the compatibility tab, and setting it to Windows XP.

- JB


"kakii" <user@domain.co> wrote in message
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>
> I made recently following experience with my vista business 32bits.
>
> UAC disabled.
> When logged on as an user from adminstrative group my 3rd party firewall
> can't be started with administrative privileges. Attempts to change
> settings of that firewall result in error message like "You haven't
> sufficient access rights".
> Starting that firewall using "Run as..." doesn't help.
>
> Applications can't be started with administrative access rights if
> logged-in as limited rights user and using "Run as..." option.
> While using run-as I expect to get administrator password prompt.
> That doesn't occur. After having selected run-as option from icon's
> context menu the application starts as normally.
> I can recognize that application started this way runs with limited
> rights because my mail client fetches local mails stored in
> the limited user's profile directory, not the adminstrator's one.
>
> Is this a wanted behaviour of Vista when UAC disabled ?
> If not, what can be the reason of this behaviour ?
kakii
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Re: Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled
Posted: 11-30-2008, 06:29 PM

It may be, I remembered only the first sequence "run as..."

If run-as-administrator is not available when UAC disabled
then I think it shouldn't be available in the context menu at all.
Otherwise it is irritating.

Please imagine one get in context menu such positions like Elephant,
or Bribiiii, or blablabla, or thousand of other not needed stuff.



Jimmy Brush wrote:
> The "run as" explorer menu command has been replaced by the "run as
> administrator" menu command. "Run as administrator" is a component of
> UAC, and thus is not available when UAC is disabled.
>
> However, the "runas" command-line tool still exists and can be used.
>
> With UAC disabled, all programs have administrative rights when you are
> logged in as an administrator, regardless of whatever error message is
> displayed. You may try right-clicking the misbehaving program, clicking
> properties, clicking the compatibility tab, and setting it to Windows XP.
>
> - JB
>
>
Cephexin
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Re: Vista: "Run as..." while UAC disabled
Posted: 12-03-2008, 07:49 PM
On Nov 29, 4:17*pm, kakii <u...@domain.co> wrote:
> I made recently following experience with my vista business 32bits.
>
> UAC disabled.
> When logged on as an user from adminstrative group my 3rd party firewall
> can't be started with administrative privileges. Attempts to change
> settings of that firewall result in error message like "You haven't
> sufficient access rights".
> Starting that firewall using "Run as..." doesn't help.
>
> Applications can't be started with administrative access rights if
> logged-in as limited rights user and using "Run as..." option.
> While using run-as I expect to get administrator password prompt.
> That doesn't occur. After having selected run-as option from icon's
> context menu the application starts as normally.
> I can recognize that application started this way runs with limited
> rights because my mail client fetches local mails stored in
> the limited user's profile directory, not the adminstrator's one.
>
> Is this a wanted behaviour of Vista when UAC disabled ?
> If not, what can be the reason of this behaviour ?
Put IE in the exception list, and when it crashes, notify the file
listed in error message. If there is any (mostly DLL files), then it's
a problem of a file corruption or bad function or some such, or else
there maybe some more serious problems, like hurting the symbols or
the like. Give us a memory dump out of the situation to have a more
accurate answer.
 
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