Vista search anomalies

Posted: 02-16-2009, 08:37 PM

I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg in
Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of them
showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I am
using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name and
contents.
Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
Thanks,
Chas

Vista search anomalies


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Jonathan Harker
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-16-2009, 09:19 PM
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:01 -0800, chasgl
<chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg in
>Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of them
>showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I am
>using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name and
>contents.
>Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
>Thanks,
>Chas
Yeah... Vista search sucks.

Turn off indexing on all drives.

Use Agent Ransack (Google it) for your searches.
Shankp
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 12:05 AM
where did you search for it, in the start menu or some other place?

"chasgl" <chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg
> in
> Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of
> them
> showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I
> am
> using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name
> and
> contents.
> Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
> Thanks,
> Chas
>
donfrench
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 12:46 AM

Jonathan Harker;969636 Wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:01 -0800, chasg
> <chasgl@xxxxxx> wrote
> > > >
> >
> > >I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercis
> > 3.jpg i
> > >Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public non
> > of the
> > >showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showe
> > up. I a
> > >using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both fil
> > name an
> > >contents
> > >Any idea why something like thiw would happen
> > >Thanks
> > >Chas > > Yeah... Vista search sucks
>
>
Saying that Vista search sucks is the biggest understatement I hav
read in a long time. It is horrible! It blows! It is amazingly
stunningly, disgustingly, fatally flawed. No one could have don
usability testing on that steaming pile of horse hockey. It infuriate
me that they not only released this total piece of garbage but that the
don't get rid of it. What possible reason could MS have had fo
eliminating the perfectly good search facility in XP so that they coul
replace it with something that is so nauseatingly badly designed an
totally bug-ridden. It angers me on a daily basis. I have decided fo
the first time to seriously consider getting a Mac, primarily due to th
nightmare of using Vista, the two biggest offenders being file searc
and file management (no tree-view, Microsoft??? No way to revert to th
File Explorer that worked so well in Windows 95, 98, NT, and XP????)
used to be a big MS supporter but now I tell anyone who will listen t
avoid Vista like the plague. Man, I hate it!!

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Dave T.
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 12:59 AM
Jonathan Harker wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:01 -0800, chasgl
> <chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg in
>> Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of them
>> showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I am
>> using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name and
>> contents.
>> Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
>> Thanks,
>> Chas
>
> Yeah... Vista search sucks.
>
> Turn off indexing on all drives.
>
> Use Agent Ransack (Google it) for your searches.

Jonathan, I've found that the only thing that doesn't work with windows
search is the search box in the start menu, and the fact that if you
have multiple drives you must have that drive open in an explorer window.

Try this experiment;

Since you mentioned the Public folder, click start > computer > C drive
(in the left pane)so that the contents of C is open in the explorer
window. At the top right of the explorer window is a search box. Type
the first 3 digits of the file you want. I use search 4.0 and I have
never been unable to easily find anything I want. I also have 3 external
HDD's along with my one internal C drive. You must search each drive
separately. You will not find a file in H when you search F. The windows
indexing apparently handles each drive individually.

Try this and let us know.

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donfrench
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 02:49 AM

Dave T.;969868 Wrote:
> Jonathan Harker wrote:> > >
> > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:01 -0800, chasgl
> > > <chasgl@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > > >> I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise
> > > 3.jpg in
> > > >> Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none
> > > of them
> > > >> showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed
> > > up. I am
> > > >> using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file
> > > name and
> > > >> contents.
> > > >> Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Chas> > > > >
> > > Yeah... Vista search sucks.
> > >
> > > Turn off indexing on all drives.
> > >
> > > Use Agent Ransack (Google it) for your searches. > >
> Jonathan, I've found that the only thing that doesn't work with
> windows
> search is the search box in the start menu, and the fact that if you
> have multiple drives you must have that drive open in an explorer
> window.
>
Dave, you HAVE to be kidding! I can virtually never get Vista file
search to work. Like Jonathon, I have run experiments to prove that it
doesn't work. For example, today I searched my entire computer for all
my mp3 files because I wanted to back them up, searching for "mp3". It
found only a few files of the thousands of files on my one and only
drive, none of which had mp3 as an extension. But if I changed to one
of the directories that I knew has files and did the same identical
search, it found all of them. And if I selected just the C drive and
did the search, it found the same handful as when I searched the entire
computer. And these searches were done from the File Explorer, not
from the Start menu. I tried with Indexed on and again with it off. I
looked at every option in the Search options and tried everything I
could think of. Always the same incorrect result. This is typical of
what happens every time I try to use that lousy search. Next
experiment: I copied a few hundred mp3 files to a USB drive from my C
drive. Did a search of the entire computer and it found only the ones
on the USB drive but none of the ones on the C drive. Same files.
Copied, not moved - they still are sitting on the C drive. But search
simply doesn't find them. Why not?

If such a basic and necessary tool fails as badly and as consistently
as this one does, it makes the entire OS worthless in my opinion.

And what about the Advanced search features? You only get the option
to set the Advanced Search parameters by first doing a search and then
waiting for it to complete, which can be a long wait to do something
that you needed to do at the outset. It really is upsetting! I mean
it is the WORST!


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Dave T.
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 03:47 AM
donfrench wrote:
> Dave T.;969868 Wrote:
>> Jonathan Harker wrote:> > >
>>>> On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 12:37:01 -0800, chasgl
>>>> <chasgl@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise
>>>> 3.jpg in
>>>>>> Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none
>>>> of them
>>>>>> showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed
>>>> up. I am
>>>>>> using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file
>>>> name and
>>>>>> contents.
>>>>>> Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Chas> > > > >
>>>> Yeah... Vista search sucks.
>>>>
>>>> Turn off indexing on all drives.
>>>>
>>>> Use Agent Ransack (Google it) for your searches. > >
>> Jonathan, I've found that the only thing that doesn't work with
>> windows
>> search is the search box in the start menu, and the fact that if you
>> have multiple drives you must have that drive open in an explorer
>> window.
>>
>
> Dave, you HAVE to be kidding! I can virtually never get Vista file
> search to work. Like Jonathon, I have run experiments to prove that it
> doesn't work. For example, today I searched my entire computer for all
> my mp3 files because I wanted to back them up, searching for "mp3". It
> found only a few files of the thousands of files on my one and only
> drive, none of which had mp3 as an extension. But if I changed to one
> of the directories that I knew has files and did the same identical
> search, it found all of them. And if I selected just the C drive and
> did the search, it found the same handful as when I searched the entire
> computer. And these searches were done from the File Explorer, not
> from the Start menu. I tried with Indexed on and again with it off. I
> looked at every option in the Search options and tried everything I
> could think of. Always the same incorrect result. This is typical of
> what happens every time I try to use that lousy search. Next
> experiment: I copied a few hundred mp3 files to a USB drive from my C
> drive. Did a search of the entire computer and it found only the ones
> on the USB drive but none of the ones on the C drive. Same files.
> Copied, not moved - they still are sitting on the C drive. But search
> simply doesn't find them. Why not?
>
> If such a basic and necessary tool fails as badly and as consistently
> as this one does, it makes the entire OS worthless in my opinion.
>
> And what about the Advanced search features? You only get the option
> to set the Advanced Search parameters by first doing a search and then
> waiting for it to complete, which can be a long wait to do something
> that you needed to do at the outset. It really is upsetting! I mean
> it is the WORST!
>
>
Donfrench, I understand your frustration. I guess I don't have any
answers except to say that I have had NO problems with anything about
Vista. Everything works for me! I have had this (OEM, not upgrade) OS
for nearly 2 years and it is the best OS I have ever used and I have
been computing at work and at home since Win3.11. Not one BSOD, not one
failed driver, Search finds everything I look for, as long as I don't
use the search in the start menu. It is not as though I don't use it for
anything challenging. I use a USB turntable with Audacity audio editing
software extensively, along with photoshop, open office, Google earth
and I do a little gaming. The only changes I have made (other than
adding a ton of storage) is a larger power supply and an upgraded video
card.
One thing that did irritate me was MS doing push updates, but that is
not Vista specific.
I can't begin to relate to the problems that I read about on Usenet,
because I don't experience them. I know (my imagination?) that whenever
a poster lists the equipment they use, it always seems to be a short
list of manufacturers like Dell and Toshiba. I can't recall many people
complaining about an HP product, which is what I have. Again, maybe my
imagination.

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chasgl
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 04:14 AM
It is from the search field in Windows Explorer.
Chas

"Shankp" wrote:
> where did you search for it, in the start menu or some other place?
>
> "chasgl" <chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C2A77F56-CD55-4178-B9EF-3C966C1863F0@microsoft.com...
> >
> > I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg
> > in
> > Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of
> > them
> > showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I
> > am
> > using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name
> > and
> > contents.
> > Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
> > Thanks,
> > Chas
> >
chasgl
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 04:22 AM
I get similar results starting from the start menu search box.

"chasgl" wrote:
> It is from the search field in Windows Explorer.
> Chas
>
> "Shankp" wrote:
>
> > where did you search for it, in the start menu or some other place?
> >
> > "chasgl" <chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C2A77F56-CD55-4178-B9EF-3C966C1863F0@microsoft.com...
> > >
> > > I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise 3.jpg
> > > in
> > > Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none of
> > > them
> > > showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed up. I
> > > am
> > > using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file name
> > > and
> > > contents.
> > > Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chas
> > >
Shankp
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Re: Vista search anomalies
Posted: 02-17-2009, 11:32 AM
I think you can try to have a look at the settings of "Customize Start
Menu"(In "Taskbar and Start Menu Properties" > "Customize"). There are
several choice in it. I did the same search and it got the right result and
my setting is "Search entire index". I hope it helps.

"chasgl" <chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I get similar results starting from the start menu search box.
>
> "chasgl" wrote:
>
>> It is from the search field in Windows Explorer.
>> Chas
>>
>> "Shankp" wrote:
>>
>> > where did you search for it, in the start menu or some other place?
>> >
>> > "chasgl" <chasgl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:C2A77F56-CD55-4178-B9EF-3C966C1863F0@microsoft.com...
>> > >
>> > > I created three files home exercise 1.jpg, exercise .jpg, exercise
>> > > 3.jpg
>> > > in
>> > > Public/Physical Therapy. When I searched for execise in Public none
>> > > of
>> > > them
>> > > showed up. When I searched for home only home execise 2.jpg showed
>> > > up. I
>> > > am
>> > > using Vista Home premium. The folder is index including both file
>> > > name
>> > > and
>> > > contents.
>> > > Any idea why something like thiw would happen?
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Chas
>> > >
 
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