Vista Ultimate Security

Posted: 07-11-2008, 02:14 AM
I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell XPS
420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks .
Ginny

Vista Ultimate Security


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Bruce Chambers
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 03:23 AM
CdLsRN wrote:
> I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
> Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
> firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell
> XPS 420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
> Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks .
> Ginny

Can you? Certainly, if that's what you want to do: replace your
existing (and perfectly good) set of security applications with those
(of unknown quality/reliability, as they're unidentified) provided by
your ISP.

Should you? Impossible to say without knowing what specific products
will be provided by the ISP. If they're Symantec, Norton, or McAfee
products, the answer would be a very loud *"NO;"* your existing
security apps are superior.

Perhaps most importantly, there is definitely no need for you to do so.


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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 03:34 AM
Bruce Chambers wrote:
> CdLsRN wrote:
>> I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router
>> and Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free
>> E-trust firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my
>> new Dell XPS 420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
>> Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks .
>> Ginny
>
>
> Can you? Certainly, if that's what you want to do: replace your
> existing (and perfectly good) set of security applications with those
> (of unknown quality/reliability, as they're unidentified) provided by
> your ISP.
>
> Should you? Impossible to say without knowing what specific
> products will be provided by the ISP. If they're Symantec, Norton, or
> McAfee products, the answer would be a very loud *"NO;"* your existing
> security apps are superior.
>
Oops! Just noticed the mention of E-Trust. My advice would be to
stick with what you've got; it's just as good, if not better, and will
prove to be a whole easier to configure and use, with a much smaller
drain on system resources.



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Milo
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 03:43 AM
I'll put in a simple manner:

1. Free things usually comes with limited capability esp. In the greater
sense of security.
2. Not one Anti-malware in the world can say they are the ultimate or even
in combination.
3. Pick good Security application who has 1 - good review, 2- less false
positive, 3 - easy access support 4. - can get the job done
a combination of 1 anti-virus and 1 anti-spyware from 2 different
company would go a possible job.
4. By the way Security Application must have a good heuristics, since today
malware span like mushrooms lately.
5. Increase your awareness.......... computing security starts with the
user.

"CdLsRN" <Ginnyrn@optonlinenospam.com> wrote in message
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> I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
> Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
> firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell XPS
> 420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
> Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks .
> Ginny
CdLsRN
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 05:34 AM
Computer Associates, Internet Security, E-Trust. My question was should I
use the Computer Associates Virus Scanner instead of Avast free, or perhaps
I should upgrade my Avast.

And, what would be the downside to adding Computer Associates firewall to
Vista and leave Vista's firewall running.

Sorry I wasn't clear. I thought everyone knew what E-Trust was. Thank you.



"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Bruce Chambers wrote:
>> CdLsRN wrote:
>>> I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
>>> Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
>>> firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell
>>> XPS 420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
>>> Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks
>>> .
>>> Ginny
>>
>>
>> Can you? Certainly, if that's what you want to do: replace your
>> existing (and perfectly good) set of security applications with those (of
>> unknown quality/reliability, as they're unidentified) provided by your
>> ISP.
>>
>> Should you? Impossible to say without knowing what specific products
>> will be provided by the ISP. If they're Symantec, Norton, or McAfee
>> products, the answer would be a very loud *"NO;"* your existing security
>> apps are superior.
>>
>
> Oops! Just noticed the mention of E-Trust. My advice would be to stick
> with what you've got; it's just as good, if not better, and will prove to
> be a whole easier to configure and use, with a much smaller drain on
> system resources.
>
>
>
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> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
> Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
> killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 05:43 AM
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:14:02 -0400, "CdLsRN"
<Ginnyrn@optonlinenospam.com> wrote:
>I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
>Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
>firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell XPS
>420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
>Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks .
>Ginny
You don't need Windows firewall or any other software-based firewall.
Your router has a hardware firewall.
Mick Murphy
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RE: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 08:24 AM
Use the Vista Firewall; it's as good or better than CA's.
And in CA's Anti-virus, you are not allowed much freedom to work with it.

I have used both Avast & CA over the years,( at different times, lol), and
Avast Anti-virus is superior (Free Edition)

You use more than I do, and I have no probs.
Mine:
Avast Anti-virus
Spybot Search & Destroy
SpywareBlaster
Vista Firewall.
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Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"CdLsRN" wrote:
> I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
> Windows Vista firewall. Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
> firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell XPS
> 420 desktop computer? (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
> Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition). Thanks .
> Ginny
>
>
Ken Blake, MVP
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-11-2008, 07:51 PM
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:14:02 -0400, "CdLsRN"
<Ginnyrn@optonlinenospam.com> wrote:
> I have free Avast virus scanner, a hard firewall with Linksys router and
> Windows Vista firewall.

Good.

> Do I need to or can I download the free E-trust
> firewall and/or virus scanner from the cable company, for my new Dell XPS
> 420 desktop computer?

No. You should run only a single software firewall. More than one
provides no additional security, exposes you to the risk of conflicts
between them, and just uses more resources.

The same is true of an anti-virus program. Although you can have more
than one installed and use each at different times to do scans, do not
have both running at once. I would personally just keep Avast, which
is a good product, and not use what your ISP provides.

> (I run Spy Bot, Ad Aware, Spyware
> Blaster,SuperAntiSpyware free edition,and Avast, free edition).

Good. It sound like you are well protected, from a software
standpoint.

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Bruce Chambers
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-12-2008, 01:17 AM
Nonny wrote:
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>
> You don't need Windows firewall or any other software-based firewall.
> Your router has a hardware firewall.

Very bad advice.

If one uses a router with NAT, it's still a very good idea to use a
software firewall that can monitor out-going traffic. Despite the
common confusion in terms, NAT-capable routers are *NOT* firewalls, and
do nothing to protect the user from him/herself (or any "curious,"
over-confident teenagers in the home). Again -- and I cannot emphasize
this enough -- almost all spyware and many Trojans and worms are
downloaded and installed deliberately (albeit unknowingly) by the user.
So a software firewall, such as Vista's native firewall, Comodo,
Sygate or ZoneAlarm, that can detect and warn the user of unauthorized
out-going traffic is an important element of protecting one's privacy
and security, by alerting you to an unwanted malware application's
activity. It obviously does nothing additional to prevent a malware
infestation, but it will certainly help identify many different
infestations. (Remember: Most antivirus applications do not even scan
for or protect you from adware/spyware, because, after all, you've
installed them yourself, so you must want them there, right?)

When I ran WinXP, I used both a router with NAT and Sygate Personal
Firewall, even though I generally know better than to install scumware.
Now that I'm using Vista, I still use a software firewall (Vista's)
in addition to my router. When it comes to computer security and
protecting my privacy, I prefer the old "belt and suspenders" approach.
In the professional IT community, this is also known as a "layered
defense." Basically, it comes down to never, ever "putting all of your
eggs in one basket."

Having said that, it's important to remember that firewalls and
anti-virus applications, which should always be used and should always
be running, while important components of "safe hex," cannot, and should
not be expected to, protect the computer user from him/herself.
Ultimately, it is incumbent upon each and every computer user to learn
how to secure his/her own computer.


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Bruce Chambers
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Re: Vista Ultimate Security
Posted: 07-12-2008, 01:19 AM
CdLsRN wrote:
> Computer Associates, Internet Security, E-Trust. My question was should I
> use the Computer Associates Virus Scanner instead of Avast free, or perhaps
> I should upgrade my Avast.
>
> And, what would be the downside to adding Computer Associates firewall to
> Vista and leave Vista's firewall running.
>
> Sorry I wasn't clear. I thought everyone knew what E-Trust was. Thank you.
>

No need for you to apologize, it was my mistake. I didn't notice the
"E-Trust" on my first reading, and hit send before I'd proof-read my
initial response.


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The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
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