Vista upgrading and mail question

Posted: 08-30-2006, 04:42 AM
Hi,

I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing and I
know that is not the "official" announcement.

In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"? Does it
mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for the upgrade or
other?

Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.

Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista machine, and
the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express newsgroup accounts,
settings, threads, and so on.

Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is not
transferable without a 3rd party utility?

Thanks in advance.


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Tom Ziegmann
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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 04:46 AM
Hello xfile,

The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your system. Windows
Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy Transfer and if you
run that on your XP machine it will back up all of your settings and then
you can restore them to a new computer or to the same PC if you do a clean
install. As far as I know Newsgroup subscriptions and all e-mail transfer
now.


Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
> Hi,
>
> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>
> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
> the upgrade or other?
>
> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>
> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista machine,
> and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express newsgroup
> accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>
> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 09:07 AM
Hi,

Thanks for your kind reply and that at least ease my two primary concerns
since upgrade to Vista will inevitably need to upgrade some hardware as
well, such as VGA to take the full advantage of its much advertised graphic
effects.

And transferring/synchronizing newsgroup subscriptions including posted
message between different XP machines (such as at office and home) is one of
the major headaches of using XP now.

Again, thanks for your kind confirmation.
"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:f7e8c004decd8c899c352992c38@news.microsoft.co m...
> Hello xfile,
>
> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your system.
> Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy Transfer and
> if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all of your settings
> and then you can restore them to a new computer or to the same PC if you
> do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup subscriptions and all
> e-mail transfer now.
>
>
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>
>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>> the upgrade or other?
>>
>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>
>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista machine,
>> and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express newsgroup
>> accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>
>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>

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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 09:12 AM
Tom do you think this is robust? Whats the report on testing?

I dont know, my rule has been to do clean installs.
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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 12:22 PM
I don't think the newsgroup information will migrate. That is what is being
reported at present, although I haven't tested it yet in the newest build.

steve

MS-MVP
OE / WinMail

"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
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> Hello xfile,
>
> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your system.
> Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy Transfer and
> if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all of your settings
> and then you can restore them to a new computer or to the same PC if you
> do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup subscriptions and all
> e-mail transfer now.
>
>
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>
>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>> the upgrade or other?
>>
>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>
>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista machine,
>> and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express newsgroup
>> accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>
>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>
>
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Steve Cochran
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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 12:23 PM
I don't think the newsgroup information is going to migrate. I will be
testing this, but I think it will not work.

As to sharing the messages between systems, you still will not be able to
share the message store on a network, but the message files are now stored
individually, so its an easy matter to transfer messages from one computer
to another.

steve

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Thanks for your kind reply and that at least ease my two primary concerns
> since upgrade to Vista will inevitably need to upgrade some hardware as
> well, such as VGA to take the full advantage of its much advertised
> graphic effects.
>
> And transferring/synchronizing newsgroup subscriptions including posted
> message between different XP machines (such as at office and home) is one
> of the major headaches of using XP now.
>
> Again, thanks for your kind confirmation.
> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:f7e8c004decd8c899c352992c38@news.microsoft.co m...
>> Hello xfile,
>>
>> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your system.
>> Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy Transfer and
>> if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all of your settings
>> and then you can restore them to a new computer or to the same PC if you
>> do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup subscriptions and all
>> e-mail transfer now.
>>
>>
>> Tom Ziegmann
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
>> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>>
>>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>>> the upgrade or other?
>>>
>>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>>
>>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista machine,
>>> and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express newsgroup
>>> accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>>
>>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 12:51 PM
Thanks and

I really hope the new OS could focus more on handling daily tasks and making
our life a bit of easier instead of skin-deep graphic things - no offense.

"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
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>I don't think the newsgroup information is going to migrate. I will be
>testing this, but I think it will not work.
>
> As to sharing the messages between systems, you still will not be able to
> share the message store on a network, but the message files are now stored
> individually, so its an easy matter to transfer messages from one computer
> to another.
>
> steve
>
> "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:OU7YMtAzGHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for your kind reply and that at least ease my two primary concerns
>> since upgrade to Vista will inevitably need to upgrade some hardware as
>> well, such as VGA to take the full advantage of its much advertised
>> graphic effects.
>>
>> And transferring/synchronizing newsgroup subscriptions including posted
>> message between different XP machines (such as at office and home) is one
>> of the major headaches of using XP now.
>>
>> Again, thanks for your kind confirmation.
>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:f7e8c004decd8c899c352992c38@news.microsoft.co m...
>>> Hello xfile,
>>>
>>> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your system.
>>> Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy Transfer
>>> and if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all of your
>>> settings and then you can restore them to a new computer or to the same
>>> PC if you do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup subscriptions
>>> and all e-mail transfer now.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
>>> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>>>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>>>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>>>> the upgrade or other?
>>>>
>>>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>>>
>>>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>>>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista machine,
>>>> and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express newsgroup
>>>> accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>>>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-30-2006, 03:30 PM
Hello All,

In my testing in every build since 5384 all my OE information including newsgroups
has transferred, the only problem that I have had is I have to just re sync
with the news servers. But, other than that I have had no problems and I
think Windows Easy Transfer is a lot better then the Files and Settings Transfer
Wizard in XP.

Tom Ziegmann
Microsoft Certified Professional
Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
> I don't think the newsgroup information will migrate. That is what is
> being reported at present, although I haven't tested it yet in the
> newest build.
>
> steve
>
> MS-MVP
> OE / WinMail
> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:f7e8c004decd8c899c352992c38@news.microsoft.co m...
>
>> Hello xfile,
>>
>> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your
>> system. Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy
>> Transfer and if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all
>> of your settings and then you can restore them to a new computer or
>> to the same PC if you do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup
>> subscriptions and all e-mail transfer now.
>>
>> Tom Ziegmann
>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
>> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>>
>>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>>> the upgrade or other?
>>>
>>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>>
>>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista
>>> machine, and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express
>>> newsgroup accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>>
>>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>

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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-31-2006, 08:17 AM
Hello,

Many thanks for the confirmation again.

Just to be sure that I understood, you could transfer all newsgroup
subscriptions and including messages posted and marked to be monitored?

Thanks.
"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:f7e8c004e0e58c89a1d53bdf22d@news.microsoft.co m...
> Hello All,
>
> In my testing in every build since 5384 all my OE information including
> newsgroups has transferred, the only problem that I have had is I have to
> just re sync with the news servers. But, other than that I have had no
> problems and I think Windows Easy Transfer is a lot better then the Files
> and Settings Transfer Wizard in XP.
>
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>
>> I don't think the newsgroup information will migrate. That is what is
>> being reported at present, although I haven't tested it yet in the
>> newest build.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> MS-MVP
>> OE / WinMail
>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:f7e8c004decd8c899c352992c38@news.microsoft.co m...
>>
>>> Hello xfile,
>>>
>>> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your
>>> system. Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy
>>> Transfer and if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all
>>> of your settings and then you can restore them to a new computer or
>>> to the same PC if you do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup
>>> subscriptions and all e-mail transfer now.
>>>
>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
>>> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>>>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>>>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>>>> the upgrade or other?
>>>>
>>>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>>>
>>>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>>>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista
>>>> machine, and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express
>>>> newsgroup accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>>>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>
>

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Re: Vista upgrading and mail question
Posted: 08-31-2006, 12:55 PM
Okay. Thanks for the info. Others had previously reported it didn't work,
and I haven't tried the upgrade scenario yet.

steve

"Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
news:f7e8c004e0e58c89a1d53bdf22d@news.microsoft.co m...
> Hello All,
>
> In my testing in every build since 5384 all my OE information including
> newsgroups has transferred, the only problem that I have had is I have to
> just re sync with the news servers. But, other than that I have had no
> problems and I think Windows Easy Transfer is a lot better then the Files
> and Settings Transfer Wizard in XP.
>
> Tom Ziegmann
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>
>> I don't think the newsgroup information will migrate. That is what is
>> being reported at present, although I haven't tested it yet in the
>> newest build.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> MS-MVP
>> OE / WinMail
>> "Tom Ziegmann" <tziegmann@nospam.msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:f7e8c004decd8c899c352992c38@news.microsoft.co m...
>>
>>> Hello xfile,
>>>
>>> The upgrade will work as long as you have XP installed on your
>>> system. Windows Vista has a new transfer program called Windows Easy
>>> Transfer and if you run that on your XP machine it will back up all
>>> of your settings and then you can restore them to a new computer or
>>> to the same PC if you do a clean install. As far as I know Newsgroup
>>> subscriptions and all e-mail transfer now.
>>>
>>> Tom Ziegmann
>>> Microsoft Certified Professional
>>> Windows Vista / Server Longhorn Technical Beta Tester
>>> Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 Technical Beta Tester
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I just learned from some newsletters about the leak of Vista pricing
>>>> and I know that is not the "official" announcement.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, just wondering what will be counted as an "upgrade"?
>>>> Does it mean that owning XP or even earlier version is eligible for
>>>> the upgrade or other?
>>>>
>>>> Note: Based on the leaked news, upgrade price is not so bad.
>>>>
>>>> Also have another question about the overall feature of moving
>>>> files/data/settings from an existing machine to the new vista
>>>> machine, and the main focus is on the transferring Outlook Express
>>>> newsgroup accounts, settings, threads, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Has it improved or just like XP for which newsgroup subscription is
>>>> not transferable without a 3rd party utility?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>
>
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