Re: What are these mToolkit programs on my Dell laptop (Can I just remove them?)?

> When you inserted the installation CD for the printer you should
> have selected the Custom install for just the drivers and a minimum
> of system files. Not the entire application.
>

>> On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:50:52 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
>> <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:
>>
>>

>>>> Not only that, David - I just ran into a client's box that is
>>>> running an ancient version of Java within an HP Toolbox. I had
>>>> uninstalled Java before cleaning it up so I was most surprised to
>>>> see javaw.exe running. When I tracked it down, it came from this
>>>> HP printer Toolbox running Java 1.3.something! No way to deal with
>>>> that, so I left it. Sheesh.
>>>
>>> I have tracked down more weird, intermittent problems to HP
>>> software than any other manufacturer. It's gotten so bad that if a
>>> system is experiencing weird problems one of my first
>>> troubleshooting steps is to uninstall all HP devices and software.

>>
>> Oh no. I also have an HP printer and it took over twenty minutes
>> yesterday for the HP software to install the little driver after I
>> removed all the programs using CCLeaners Add/remove programs.
>>
>> I couldn't believe it took so long for the HP to load a simple
>> driver! After a really long wait (maybe even more than twenty
>> minutes), I findally had to reboot and there is now all sorts of
>> unwanted HP stuff on my desktop and in my start menu.
>>
>> And, all I wanted to do was print.
>>
>> After all this work of cleaning my system of the old vulnerable Java,
>> how can I tell if HP (re)installed the vulnerable Java (BACK) onto my
>> WinXP home machine?
>>
>> Lisa

> This is not possible with some HP printers. Even if you try to add the
> printer manually and point to the drivers during the driver install the HP
> installation program will run and add things like Share-to-Web whether you
> want them or not.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> Byte wrote:

> > When you inserted the installation CD for the printer you should
> > have selected the Custom install for just the drivers and a minimum
> > of system files. Not the entire application.
> >

> >> On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:50:52 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
> >> <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>> Not only that, David - I just ran into a client's box that is
> >>>> running an ancient version of Java within an HP Toolbox. I had
> >>>> uninstalled Java before cleaning it up so I was most surprised to
> >>>> see javaw.exe running. When I tracked it down, it came from this
> >>>> HP printer Toolbox running Java 1.3.something! No way to deal with
> >>>> that, so I left it. Sheesh.
> >>>
> >>> I have tracked down more weird, intermittent problems to HP
> >>> software than any other manufacturer. It's gotten so bad that if a
> >>> system is experiencing weird problems one of my first
> >>> troubleshooting steps is to uninstall all HP devices and software.
> >>
> >> Oh no. I also have an HP printer and it took over twenty minutes
> >> yesterday for the HP software to install the little driver after I
> >> removed all the programs using CCLeaners Add/remove programs.
> >>
> >> I couldn't believe it took so long for the HP to load a simple
> >> driver! After a really long wait (maybe even more than twenty
> >> minutes), I findally had to reboot and there is now all sorts of
> >> unwanted HP stuff on my desktop and in my start menu.
> >>
> >> And, all I wanted to do was print.
> >>
> >> After all this work of cleaning my system of the old vulnerable Java,
> >> how can I tell if HP (re)installed the vulnerable Java (BACK) onto my
> >> WinXP home machine?
> >>
> >> Lisa

>
>
>

> You could be right Kerry, but so far I have two (2) HP printers
> and an Epson installed and each of them had a custom install. They
> could go to the HP website and download just the drivers and some
> of the embedded system files for a minimum install.
> Or, call - 1-800-HPINVENT for assistance.
>

>> This is not possible with some HP printers. Even if you try to add
>> the printer manually and point to the drivers during the driver
>> install the HP installation program will run and add things like
>> Share-to-Web whether you want them or not.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> Byte wrote:

>>> When you inserted the installation CD for the printer you should
>>> have selected the Custom install for just the drivers and a minimum
>>> of system files. Not the entire application.
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 18:50:52 -0700, "Kerry Brown"
>>>> <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Not only that, David - I just ran into a client's box that is
>>>>>> running an ancient version of Java within an HP Toolbox. I had
>>>>>> uninstalled Java before cleaning it up so I was most surprised to
>>>>>> see javaw.exe running. When I tracked it down, it came from this
>>>>>> HP printer Toolbox running Java 1.3.something! No way to deal
>>>>>> with that, so I left it. Sheesh.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tracked down more weird, intermittent problems to HP
>>>>> software than any other manufacturer. It's gotten so bad that if a
>>>>> system is experiencing weird problems one of my first
>>>>> troubleshooting steps is to uninstall all HP devices and software.
>>>>
>>>> Oh no. I also have an HP printer and it took over twenty minutes
>>>> yesterday for the HP software to install the little driver after I
>>>> removed all the programs using CCLeaners Add/remove programs.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't believe it took so long for the HP to load a simple
>>>> driver! After a really long wait (maybe even more than twenty
>>>> minutes), I findally had to reboot and there is now all sorts of
>>>> unwanted HP stuff on my desktop and in my start menu.
>>>>
>>>> And, all I wanted to do was print.
>>>>
>>>> After all this work of cleaning my system of the old vulnerable
>>>> Java, how can I tell if HP (re)installed the vulnerable Java
>>>> (BACK) onto my WinXP home machine?
>>>>
>>>> Lisa