Where's the money in IE 7 ?

Posted: 05-31-2006, 08:12 PM

Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html


' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing and
hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by Sanford
C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh, Windows will
not continue to flourish."

Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser, Internet
Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '

======================

Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using either
IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the new
PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's is
STILL buggy / prone to infection.

Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case of
vanity and a waste of money.


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Josh
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 05-31-2006, 08:17 PM
My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they will
make in the increase in the search market with the built in search box that
will have live as the default on many systems....

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"- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>
> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
>
>
> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing and
> hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by Sanford C.
> Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh, Windows will not
> continue to flourish."
>
> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser, Internet
> Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
>
> ======================
>
> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using either IE6
> or even , god forbid - Firefox.
> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the new
> PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's is
> STILL buggy / prone to infection.
>
> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case of
> vanity and a waste of money.
>
>

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kpwood
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-01-2006, 02:14 AM
It drives me nuts when people talk about how "buggy" or how "flawed"
Microsoft's products are, and complaints about how long it takes Microsoft to
put product out. What company has the most operating systems in home PCs? In
work PCs? Microsoft. What does that mean for people of malicious intent?
Microsoft is the best target because it will get their virus or their hack
into more people's lives and gain more publicity. If Linux or Mac were as big
as Windows and as widely used as Windows you'd be griping about the same
problems with them. Look at the big picture for once.
--
CompTIA A+, Network+


"Josh" wrote:
> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they will
> make in the increase in the search market with the built in search box that
> will have live as the default on many systems....
>
> --
> Josh
> \
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >
> > Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
> > http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
> >
> >
> > ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing and
> > hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by Sanford C.
> > Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh, Windows will not
> > continue to flourish."
> >
> > Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser, Internet
> > Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
> >
> > ======================
> >
> > Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using either IE6
> > or even , god forbid - Firefox.
> > If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the new
> > PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
> > How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's is
> > STILL buggy / prone to infection.
> >
> > Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case of
> > vanity and a waste of money.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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firth
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-01-2006, 03:51 AM
Haha, all software is buggy! OS X, Linux, and Windows. And the bigger the
program, the more mistakes. If I wrote an operating system with 50 million
lines of code (or whatever it may actually be) it would have more problems
than that. Thats why I don't complain. And yes, Microsoft is a much bigger
target, an obvious choice for virus/spyware writers.
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Robert Firth


"kpwood" wrote:
> It drives me nuts when people talk about how "buggy" or how "flawed"
> Microsoft's products are, and complaints about how long it takes Microsoft to
> put product out. What company has the most operating systems in home PCs? In
> work PCs? Microsoft. What does that mean for people of malicious intent?
> Microsoft is the best target because it will get their virus or their hack
> into more people's lives and gain more publicity. If Linux or Mac were as big
> as Windows and as widely used as Windows you'd be griping about the same
> problems with them. Look at the big picture for once.
> --
> CompTIA A+, Network+
>
>
> "Josh" wrote:
>
> > My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they will
> > make in the increase in the search market with the built in search box that
> > will have live as the default on many systems....
> >
> > --
> > Josh
> > \
> >
> > "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> > news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > > Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
> > > http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
> > >
> > >
> > > ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing and
> > > hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by Sanford C.
> > > Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh, Windows will not
> > > continue to flourish."
> > >
> > > Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser, Internet
> > > Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
> > >
> > > ======================
> > >
> > > Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using either IE6
> > > or even , god forbid - Firefox.
> > > If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the new
> > > PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
> > > How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's is
> > > STILL buggy / prone to infection.
> > >
> > > Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case of
> > > vanity and a waste of money.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-10-2006, 12:00 AM
But most of the people know Google. Even my 4 yrs old daughter quickly
clicks google icon and types "d o r a" and clicks the available first link
to start her play....


Josh wrote:
> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they
> will make in the increase in the search market with the built in
> search box that will have live as the default on many systems....
>
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
>> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
>>
>>
>> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing
>> and hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by
>> Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh,
>> Windows will not continue to flourish."
>>
>> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser,
>> Internet Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
>>
>> ======================
>>
>> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using
>> either IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
>> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the
>> new PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
>> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's
>> is STILL buggy / prone to infection.
>>
>> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case
>> of vanity and a waste of money.

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Dustin Harper
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-10-2006, 12:10 AM

So Firefox get's its operating revenue boost from having Google as it's
default search engine?

Google has such a high name recognition, I still see people using it rather
than the Live search. Google's results are better, IMO, too. A few people
will use the Live default search, but they will be the people that use IE7,
Vista that came with their computers, and Windows Mail. Nothing else. They
check their email, play Solitare, and check stocks or news. The other people
usually know a little bit about computers and can type google.com into their
address bar. And Google will have something that lets them change their
default search to Google.

Dustin Harper


"abcd" <abcd@abcd.com> wrote in message
news:%23ACXCiBjGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> But most of the people know Google. Even my 4 yrs old daughter quickly
> clicks google icon and types "d o r a" and clicks the available first link
> to start her play....
>
>
> Josh wrote:
>> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they
>> will make in the increase in the search market with the built in
>> search box that will have live as the default on many systems....
>>
>>
>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
>>> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
>>>
>>>
>>> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing
>>> and hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by
>>> Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh,
>>> Windows will not continue to flourish."
>>>
>>> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser,
>>> Internet Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
>>>
>>> ======================
>>>
>>> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using
>>> either IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
>>> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the
>>> new PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
>>> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's
>>> is STILL buggy / prone to infection.
>>>
>>> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case
>>> of vanity and a waste of money.
>
>
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kpwood
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-10-2006, 06:06 AM
Google already has such a thing. If you use IE7 BETA 2, navigate to Google's
home page and you should get a little box that pops up asking if you want to
set google as your default quick search agent. I've done it with my browser.
--
Keith Wood
CompTIA A+, Network+


"Dustin Harper" wrote:
>
> So Firefox get's its operating revenue boost from having Google as it's
> default search engine?
>
> Google has such a high name recognition, I still see people using it rather
> than the Live search. Google's results are better, IMO, too. A few people
> will use the Live default search, but they will be the people that use IE7,
> Vista that came with their computers, and Windows Mail. Nothing else. They
> check their email, play Solitare, and check stocks or news. The other people
> usually know a little bit about computers and can type google.com into their
> address bar. And Google will have something that lets them change their
> default search to Google.
>
> Dustin Harper
>
>
> "abcd" <abcd@abcd.com> wrote in message
> news:%23ACXCiBjGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > But most of the people know Google. Even my 4 yrs old daughter quickly
> > clicks google icon and types "d o r a" and clicks the available first link
> > to start her play....
> >
> >
> > Josh wrote:
> >> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they
> >> will make in the increase in the search market with the built in
> >> search box that will have live as the default on many systems....
> >>
> >>
> >> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
> >>> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing
> >>> and hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by
> >>> Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh,
> >>> Windows will not continue to flourish."
> >>>
> >>> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser,
> >>> Internet Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
> >>>
> >>> ======================
> >>>
> >>> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using
> >>> either IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
> >>> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the
> >>> new PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
> >>> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's
> >>> is STILL buggy / prone to infection.
> >>>
> >>> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case
> >>> of vanity and a waste of money.
> >
> >
>
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-10-2006, 03:56 PM
Am I nuts or all these people are nuts ?
I am one of those that <quote>check their email, play Solitare,
and check stocks or news</quote> **but** always use Google search
engine since they come to www. With IE6, I had the Google toolbar.
With IE7, I don't need it, because it is the **default** in both
search and address bars.
What's up with you, guys ?
Regards.

"abcd" <abcd@abcd.com> escreveu na mensagem
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> But most of the people know Google. Even my 4 yrs old daughter quickly
> clicks google icon and types "d o r a" and clicks the available first link
> to start her play....
>
>
> Josh wrote:
>> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they
>> will make in the increase in the search market with the built in
>> search box that will have live as the default on many systems....
>>
>>
>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
>>> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
>>>
>>>
>>> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing
>>> and hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by
>>> Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh,
>>> Windows will not continue to flourish."
>>>
>>> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser,
>>> Internet Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
>>>
>>> ======================
>>>
>>> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using
>>> either IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
>>> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the
>>> new PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
>>> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's
>>> is STILL buggy / prone to infection.
>>>
>>> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case
>>> of vanity and a waste of money.
>
>
>


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kpwood
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-10-2006, 06:53 PM
It's only the default if you or someone else on your computer set it that
way. By default, IE7 loads with Microsoft's search engine. Why would
Microsoft load someone else's search engine by default?
--
Keith Wood
CompTIA A+, Network+


"Greenfruit" wrote:
> Am I nuts or all these people are nuts ?
> I am one of those that <quote>check their email, play Solitare,
> and check stocks or news</quote> **but** always use Google search
> engine since they come to www. With IE6, I had the Google toolbar.
> With IE7, I don't need it, because it is the **default** in both
> search and address bars.
> What's up with you, guys ?
> Regards.
>
> "abcd" <abcd@abcd.com> escreveu na mensagem
> news:%23ACXCiBjGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> > But most of the people know Google. Even my 4 yrs old daughter quickly
> > clicks google icon and types "d o r a" and clicks the available first link
> > to start her play....
> >
> >
> > Josh wrote:
> >> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they
> >> will make in the increase in the search market with the built in
> >> search box that will have live as the default on many systems....
> >>
> >>
> >> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> >> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>>
> >>> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
> >>> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing
> >>> and hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by
> >>> Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh,
> >>> Windows will not continue to flourish."
> >>>
> >>> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser,
> >>> Internet Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
> >>>
> >>> ======================
> >>>
> >>> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using
> >>> either IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
> >>> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the
> >>> new PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
> >>> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's
> >>> is STILL buggy / prone to infection.
> >>>
> >>> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case
> >>> of vanity and a waste of money.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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Greenfruit
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Re: Where's the money in IE 7 ?
Posted: 06-10-2006, 09:49 PM
Good question to ask MS. Because, I'm the only person working
on my pc and I don't default it. It was IE7 itself, when I installed it,
that reading my IE6 defaults put them without asking me for it.
Was it an abuse of MS regarding myself ? I think not.

Regards.

"kpwood" <kpwood@discussions.microsoft.com> escreveu na mensagem
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> It's only the default if you or someone else on your computer set it that
> way. By default, IE7 loads with Microsoft's search engine. Why would
> Microsoft load someone else's search engine by default?
> --
> Keith Wood
> CompTIA A+, Network+
>
>
> "Greenfruit" wrote:
>
>> Am I nuts or all these people are nuts ?
>> I am one of those that <quote>check their email, play Solitare,
>> and check stocks or news</quote> **but** always use Google search
>> engine since they come to www. With IE6, I had the Google toolbar.
>> With IE7, I don't need it, because it is the **default** in both
>> search and address bars.
>> What's up with you, guys ?
>> Regards.
>>
>> "abcd" <abcd@abcd.com> escreveu na mensagem
>> news:%23ACXCiBjGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> > But most of the people know Google. Even my 4 yrs old daughter quickly
>> > clicks google icon and types "d o r a" and clicks the available first
>> > link
>> > to start her play....
>> >
>> >
>> > Josh wrote:
>> >> My opinion is that part of the money in IE7 is from the revenue they
>> >> will make in the increase in the search market with the built in
>> >> search box that will have live as the default on many systems....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:OY6dxYOhGHA.3956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve Ballmer quoted in today's Fortune magazine:
>> >>> http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2783614.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ' "There's a lot of innovation still coming in Internet browsing
>> >>> and hardware," Ballmer told investors at a conference organized by
>> >>> Sanford C. Bernstein and Co. LLC. "If we don't keep Windows fresh,
>> >>> Windows will not continue to flourish."
>> >>>
>> >>> Microsoft is currently working on new versions of its browser,
>> >>> Internet Explorer 7, and operating system, Windows Vista. '
>> >>>
>> >>> ======================
>> >>>
>> >>> Where's "the money" in developing a new version of IE vs using
>> >>> either IE6 or even , god forbid - Firefox.
>> >>> If tomorrow the OEM's wanted to use IE6 or bundle Firefox into the
>> >>> new PC's, how does that "hurt" Microsoft ?
>> >>> How does having a IE 7 help MSFT " flourish "? After 6 tries their's
>> >>> is STILL buggy / prone to infection.
>> >>>
>> >>> Looking at it from an investor's point of view , I see it as a case
>> >>> of vanity and a waste of money.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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