Why can't Vista see other computers

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>

>>I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so
>>I'll start a new topic.
>>
>>I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP
>>machines
>>and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the
>>info I'm sure you'll need below
>>but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
>>When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
>>ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have
>>no
>>idea why it says disabled (see pic)
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
>>is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and
>>the one in Windows has been disabled.
>>
>>#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
>>IPCONFIG INFO:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
>>Network Connection
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
>>8:56:05 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
>>8:56:05 PM
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\HPPAVILION
>>Server Comment My Laptop
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)
>>
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 5
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\HPPAVILION
>>Full Computer name HPPavilion
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
>>Logon domain HPPAVILION
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>Status for domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
>> Master browser is running build 2600
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
>> \\HPPAVILION
>> There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>> There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>>
>>#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
>>IPCONFIG info:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>
>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
>> 88E8001/8003/8010
>>PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
>>8:56:40 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
>>8:56:40 PM
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\OFFICEPC
>>Server Comment Office PC
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)
>>
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 10
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\OFFICEPC
>>Full Computer name officepc
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
>>Logon domain OFFICEPC
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>Status for domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
>>Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
>>of browser master: 53
>> \\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
>> \\HPPAVILION
>> There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>> There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>>
>>#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
>>IPCONFIG INFO:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>
>>Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :
>>
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
>>PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09
>> PM
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\VISTA
>>Server Comment
>>Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 10
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\VISTA
>>Full Computer name Vista
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>>
>>Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Logon domain VISTA
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>(file was blank) no info given
>>
>>So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let
>>me
>>know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
>>since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
>>interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
>>on CST.
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Wy

>
> Wy,
>
> OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and
> both
> Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.
>
> Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html
>
> And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN,
> and
> see what error you get.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.

> Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of minutes
> ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.
>
> Control Panel ( Classic View) ==>Network & Sharing Center==>
>
> Set Network Discovery ON.
> Set File Sharing ON
> Set Password Protected sharing ON
>
> Place cursor on Network. Double click.
> After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.
>
> Keep double clicking on the computers.
>
> If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing on
> the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
> window.
>
> You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP to
> reciprocate.
>
> In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for your
> selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to elevate
> yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are not
> an administrator yet.
>
> Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It will
> give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
> Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
> Close the GUI.
>
> Enjoy your networking.
>
> Forget about ipconfig.
>
> Forget about NetBios.
>
> Forget about NetBT.
>
> If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a movie
> the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
> "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eA9GfZ5UIHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>

> "In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
> your
> selves as administrator"

>but I have
> accounts which I don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
> machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?

>I have a similar problem. can see my xp computers from windows vista
> machine, but can't access them (i click on the computers and get a message
> to
> enterusername and password--i do and it says, incorrectly, that they are
> wrong).
>
> but what do you mean by this:
>
> "In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
> your
> selves as administrator"
>
> if i can see the shared folders on the xp machine from another exp machine
> the network shares must be set up, no?
> and why all users. several of my user accounts (the ones i am trying to
> use
> on vista) are identical on vista and xp (same username/password). but i
> have
> accounts which i don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
> machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
> --
> Regards,
> MattK
>
>
> "alexB" wrote:
>

>> Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of
>> minutes
>> ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.
>>
>> Control Panel ( Classic View) ==>Network & Sharing Center==>
>>
>> Set Network Discovery ON.
>> Set File Sharing ON
>> Set Password Protected sharing ON
>>
>> Place cursor on Network. Double click.
>> After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.
>>
>> Keep double clicking on the computers.
>>
>> If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing
>> on
>> the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
>> window.
>>
>> You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP
>> to
>> reciprocate.
>>
>> In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
>> your
>> selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to
>> elevate
>> yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are
>> not
>> an administrator yet.
>>
>> Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It
>> will
>> give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
>> Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
>> Close the GUI.
>>
>> Enjoy your networking.
>>
>> Forget about ipconfig.
>>
>> Forget about NetBios.
>>
>> Forget about NetBT.
>>
>> If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a
>> movie
>> the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
>> "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:eA9GfZ5UIHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>

>>I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so
>>I'll start a new topic.
>>
>>I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP
>>machines
>>and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the
>>info I'm sure you'll need below
>>but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
>>When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
>>ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have
>>no
>>idea why it says disabled (see pic)
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
>>is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and
>>the one in Windows has been disabled.
>>
>>#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
>>IPCONFIG INFO:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
>>Network Connection
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
>>8:56:05 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
>>8:56:05 PM
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\HPPAVILION
>>Server Comment My Laptop
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)
>>
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 5
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\HPPAVILION
>>Full Computer name HPPavilion
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
>>Logon domain HPPAVILION
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>Status for domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
>> Master browser is running build 2600
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
>> \\HPPAVILION
>> There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>> There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>>
>>#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
>>IPCONFIG info:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>
>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
>> 88E8001/8003/8010
>>PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
>>8:56:40 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
>>8:56:40 PM
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\OFFICEPC
>>Server Comment Office PC
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)
>>
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 10
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\OFFICEPC
>>Full Computer name officepc
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
>>Logon domain OFFICEPC
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>Status for domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
>>Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
>>of browser master: 53
>> \\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
>> \\HPPAVILION
>> There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>> There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>>
>>#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
>>IPCONFIG INFO:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>
>>Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :
>>
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
>>PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09
>> PM
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\VISTA
>>Server Comment
>>Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 10
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\VISTA
>>Full Computer name Vista
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>>
>>Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Logon domain VISTA
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>(file was blank) no info given
>>
>>So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let
>>me
>>know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
>>since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
>>interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
>>on CST.
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Wy

>
> Wy,
>
> OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and
> both
> Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.
>
> Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html
>
> And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN,
> and
> see what error you get.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.

> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:37 -0600, "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>

>>I may have hijacked another post with my problem and I do apologize so
>>I'll start a new topic.
>>
>>I'm having trouble getting my Vista Ultimate desktop to see the XP
>>machines
>>and vice versa. The XPs see each other fine. I'll copy and paste all the
>>info I'm sure you'll need below
>>but let me say right now that the browstat wouldn't run on the Vista PC.
>>When I opened to text file it was empty. Also, you'll notice in the
>>ipconfig that it says NetBios over TCPIP is disable but it's not. I have
>>no
>>idea why it says disabled (see pic)
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1..._IPsetting.jpg. This
>>is gonna be lengthy so please forgive me. No firewalls are installed and
>>the one in Windows has been disabled.
>>
>>#1 - XP Home (Wireless laptop)
>>IPCONFIG INFO:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HPPavilion
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection :
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
>>Network Connection
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-02-46-7E-F0
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.16
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
>>8:56:05 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
>>8:56:05 PM
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\HPPAVILION
>>Server Comment My Laptop
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467ef0)
>>
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 5
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\HPPAVILION
>>Full Computer name HPPavilion
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01} (001302467EF0)
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
>>Logon domain HPPAVILION
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>Status for domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
>> Master browser is running build 2600
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
>> \\HPPAVILION
>> There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>> There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C78B04BA-2931-4523-9388-45894790CA01}
>>
>>#2 - XP MCE (Ethernet desktop)
>>IPCONFIG info:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : officepc
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>
>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon
>> 88E8001/8003/8010
>>PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-69-FE-43
>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.18
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008
>>8:56:40 PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008
>>8:56:40 PM
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\OFFICEPC
>>Server Comment Office PC
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000fea69fe43)
>>
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 10
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\OFFICEPC
>>Full Computer name officepc
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>> NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540} (000FEA69FE43)
>>
>>Software version Windows 2002
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Workstation Domain DNS Name (null)
>>Logon domain OFFICEPC
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>Status for domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: HPPAVILION
>>Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
>>of browser master: 53
>> \\\\HPPAVILION . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master HPPAVILION
>> \\HPPAVILION
>> There are 2 servers in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>> There are 1 domains in domain WGHOME on transport
>>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B3554BB2-272F-43DB-8344-EF58BD5B7540}
>>
>>#3 - VISTA ULTIMATE (Wireless desktop)
>>IPCONFIG INFO:
>>Windows IP Configuration
>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Vista
>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>>
>>Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection :
>>
>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.il.comcast.net.
>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter #2
>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-18-F8-AE-B9-3C
>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20(Preferred)
>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:56:09
>>PM
>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 10, 2008 8:56:09
>> PM
>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.72.130
>> 68.87.77.130
>> NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>
>>NET CONFIG INFO:
>>Server Name \\VISTA
>>Server Comment
>>Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
>>Server is active on
>> NetbiosSmb (VISTA)
>>Server hidden No
>>Maximum Logged On Users 10
>>Maximum open files per session 16384
>>
>>Idle session time (min) 15
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>Computer name \\VISTA
>>Full Computer name Vista
>>User name Wyman
>>
>>Workstation active on
>> NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
>>
>>Software version Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
>>
>>Workstation domain WGHOME
>>Logon domain VISTA
>>
>>COM Open Timeout (sec) 0
>>COM Send Count (byte) 16
>>COM Send Timeout (msec) 250
>>The command completed successfully.
>>
>>BROWSTAT:
>>(file was blank) no info given
>>
>>So hopefully this is all the info you need but if you need more just let
>>me
>>know. I've also inserted links to some screen prints. Please note I've
>>since changed the name of the workgroup to WGHOME. Also, if you are
>>interested in connecting to my machine via LogMeIn, I'm open to that. I'm
>>on CST.
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...tworkmap-1.jpg
>>http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...eychgo/NSC.jpg
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Wy

>
> Wy,
>
> OK, what you have to work on is the NetBT issue on Vista. IPConfig, and
> both
> Net Config, logs show that NetBT is not active.
>
> Try CDiag, run on all 3 computers.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-cdiag-without-assistance.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ssistance.html
>
> And run "browstat status" on Vista, in a command window started AS ADMIN,
> and
> see what error you get.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-window-in-windows-vista.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2007/0...ows-vista.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.

> I want to disclaim myself that I am not a sure expert on anything. I am a
> heavy user though, and I do not mean alcohol or drugs.
>
> There is a GOOD chance that Vista does not take you seriously at all. The
> fact that you paid 3 grand for this machine does have some relevance but you
> have to establish it. You have to establish yourselves a one.
>
> This is what you do (if you haven't already done it). You open Command
> Prompt as "run as administrator" which gives you temporarily the rights of
> the Administrator (and the administrator is an OBJECT in your machine). Then
> you type lusrmgr.msc and do Carriage Return. You will see a GUI where you
> will see in the Left Pane the Group thumbnail. Double click on it and in
> the Right pane you will see a bunch of Groups. You should add yourselves to
> the first Group: "ADMINISTRATORS." Note that there is already one member in
> that group: Administrator--again it is an object not you. After you added
> this name you may close the GUI or you may try to examine other groups.
>
> There is a group there: Network Configuration Operators. You may try to add
> yourselves to it as well.
>
> I am working sort of backwards in here.
>
> Answering your question:
>

> > "In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
> > your
> > selves as administrator"

>
> It's been about 6 months since I touched that part of XP. It is entirely
> from memory. It is a fairly irresponsible statement. If there is a way to
> establish sharing for "everyone" and you do not mind in terms of security,
> you may as well do it.
>
> Otherwise, set shared permissions for select group of users or for the
> administrator which in XP I think is the person who signs himself in.
>
> And the last thing:
>

> >but I have
> > accounts which I don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
> > machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?

>
> Probably not. I should say, not at all, although I may be wrong.
>
> With the passwords you should make sure that all the accounts are aligned,
> go over them another time, make sure user names are spelled the same, that
> you have the full right to access the Network. What else? Nothing comes to
> mind at this point.
>
> It is doable.
>
> "MattK" <thekaplans[insert@sign]att.net> wrote in message
> news:32D0A573-CE06-464D-BDB8-98BF9C2A8ADC@microsoft.com...

> >I have a similar problem. can see my xp computers from windows vista
> > machine, but can't access them (i click on the computers and get a message
> > to
> > enterusername and password--i do and it says, incorrectly, that they are
> > wrong).
> >
> > but what do you mean by this:
> >
> > "In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
> > your
> > selves as administrator"
> >
> > if i can see the shared folders on the xp machine from another exp machine
> > the network shares must be set up, no?
> > and why all users. several of my user accounts (the ones i am trying to
> > use
> > on vista) are identical on vista and xp (same username/password). but i
> > have
> > accounts which i don't use on the xp machines that are not on the vista
> > machine. that shouldn't make a difference, should it?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > MattK
> >
> >
> > "alexB" wrote:
> >

> >> Sorry for reposting. I did not realize when I posted it a couple of
> >> minutes
> >> ago that I did it in html. Now is the plain text.
> >>
> >> Control Panel ( Classic View) ==>Network & Sharing Center==>
> >>
> >> Set Network Discovery ON.
> >> Set File Sharing ON
> >> Set Password Protected sharing ON
> >>
> >> Place cursor on Network. Double click.
> >> After a short while you should see all the computer on your network.
> >>
> >> Keep double clicking on the computers.
> >>
> >> If you need to do Printer sharing, make sure you enabled Printer sharing
> >> on
> >> the previous pane but first you must see the printer's image in the last
> >> window.
> >>
> >> You will not be able to do any of these unless you first forced your XP
> >> to
> >> reciprocate.
> >>
> >> In XP you will have to set up network shares for ALL users or only for
> >> your
> >> selves as administrator. It is also possible that you will need to
> >> elevate
> >> yourselves in Vista to the level of an administrator. Remember, you are
> >> not
> >> an administrator yet.
> >>
> >> Open Command Prompt and run it "as administrator" Type lusrmgr.msc. It
> >> will
> >> give you a GUI: Local Users and Groups. Click on Groups thumbnail. In the
> >> Left pane find the group "Administrators" Add yourselves to this group.
> >> Close the GUI.
> >>
> >> Enjoy your networking.
> >>
> >> Forget about ipconfig.
> >>
> >> Forget about NetBios.
> >>
> >> Forget about NetBT.
> >>
> >> If you are related to Jane Wyman I should say that I enjoyed her in a
> >> movie
> >> the other night: Let's do it over again. Do it over again with your LAN.
> >> "Wyman" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:eA9GfZ5UIHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>

>
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