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Old 06-21-2006, 11:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Why was no Automatic Restore to XP included?


DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"

I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
been a bad idea.

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Old 06-22-2006, 12:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"jonah" <jonah123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>
> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
> been a bad idea.
>
> Jonah
They did. It's called dual boot and the instructions were quite clear.

Along with the instructions to not put it on a machine where backing out to
XP would be important.


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Old 06-22-2006, 12:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:00:26 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
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>"jonah" <jonah123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:qamj92tuhnu3vfohehsnvu3qqhg3l69h1e@4ax.com.. .
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>> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>>
>> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
>> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
>> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
>> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
>> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
>> been a bad idea.
>>
>> Jonah
>
>They did. It's called dual boot and the instructions were quite clear.
>
>Along with the instructions to not put it on a machine where backing out to
>XP would be important.
>
Thats not what I mean, when upgrading from Win98SE to XP there was, as
I recall a backout to revert to Win98SE, I am wondering if it was
possible to have included a similar backout option in this beta and if
so why did MSFT not do so, was it for technical or other reasons.

It would have saved a lot of predictable trouble for those people who
cannot read instructions / warnings and incidently made it easier for
the responders in this NG to help people who did ill advised upgrades
to get back to XP.

I am not being critical its just a general interest question.

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Old 06-22-2006, 12:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I am glad they did not take the engineering time to do that.
This is a frikken BETA!!!! With 6 months left before any "non-techniical"
users should even see this, let alone install it.

I know what you are saying, but that functionality is goign to be
engineering/testing intensive.....


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> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:00:26 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>>"jonah" <jonah123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>>>
>>> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
>>> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
>>> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
>>> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
>>> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
>>> been a bad idea.
>>>
>>> Jonah
>>
>>They did. It's called dual boot and the instructions were quite clear.
>>
>>Along with the instructions to not put it on a machine where backing out
>>to
>>XP would be important.
>>
> Thats not what I mean, when upgrading from Win98SE to XP there was, as
> I recall a backout to revert to Win98SE, I am wondering if it was
> possible to have included a similar backout option in this beta and if
> so why did MSFT not do so, was it for technical or other reasons.
>
> It would have saved a lot of predictable trouble for those people who
> cannot read instructions / warnings and incidently made it easier for
> the responders in this NG to help people who did ill advised upgrades
> to get back to XP.
>
> I am not being critical its just a general interest question.
>
> Jonah
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Old 06-22-2006, 12:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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They should have not even let the install upgrade XP...they should have left
testing that functionality to the technical beta testers...
Then there would have been less confusion..though the warnings were all over
the place....


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> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:00:26 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
Quote:
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>>"jonah" <jonah123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:qamj92tuhnu3vfohehsnvu3qqhg3l69h1e@4ax.com. ..
Quote:
>>>
>>> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>>>
>>> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
>>> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
>>> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
>>> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
>>> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
>>> been a bad idea.
>>>
>>> Jonah
>>
>>They did. It's called dual boot and the instructions were quite clear.
>>
>>Along with the instructions to not put it on a machine where backing out
>>to
>>XP would be important.
>>
> Thats not what I mean, when upgrading from Win98SE to XP there was, as
> I recall a backout to revert to Win98SE, I am wondering if it was
> possible to have included a similar backout option in this beta and if
> so why did MSFT not do so, was it for technical or other reasons.
>
> It would have saved a lot of predictable trouble for those people who
> cannot read instructions / warnings and incidently made it easier for
> the responders in this NG to help people who did ill advised upgrades
> to get back to XP.
>
> I am not being critical its just a general interest question.
>
> Jonah
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Old 06-22-2006, 12:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:00:26 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
Quote:
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>>"jonah" <jonah123@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:qamj92tuhnu3vfohehsnvu3qqhg3l69h1e@4ax.com. ..
Quote:
>>>
>>> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>>>
>>> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
>>> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
>>> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
>>> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
>>> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
>>> been a bad idea.
>>>
>>> Jonah
>>
>>They did. It's called dual boot and the instructions were quite clear.
>>
>>Along with the instructions to not put it on a machine where backing out
>>to
>>XP would be important.
>>
> Thats not what I mean, when upgrading from Win98SE to XP there was, as
> I recall a backout to revert to Win98SE, I am wondering if it was
> possible to have included a similar backout option in this beta and if
> so why did MSFT not do so, was it for technical or other reasons.
>
> It would have saved a lot of predictable trouble for those people who
> cannot read instructions / warnings and incidently made it easier for
> the responders in this NG to help people who did ill advised upgrades
> to get back to XP.
>
> I am not being critical its just a general interest question.
>
> Jonah
98 = small
XP = big

I see your point, but the complexity would have been pretty high.



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Old 06-22-2006, 12:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I assume because the tool failed testing.

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> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>
> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
> been a bad idea.
>
> Jonah

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Old 06-22-2006, 12:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:00:26 -0400, "Tom Scales" <tjscales@gmail.com>
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>They did. It's called dual boot and the instructions were quite clear.

Indeed Tom.
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Old 06-22-2006, 01:25 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi,

People are used to Win9x upgrades where reversion to a previous OS was the
norm. In NT systems, the option to "uninstall" has never been a part of the
standard installation. Win2K, XP, and Vista are all NT systems, and
upgrading any of them are a one way street.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

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> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>
> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
> been a bad idea.
>
> Jonah
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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You can get back to your XP the same way you would get your XP back due to a
hardware failure, by using your backup.
People can not get back to their XP if the hard drive containing the O/S
fails, unless they have a backup, so if they are complaining that they can't
get back to XP after upgrading to Vista, it makes little difference. They
should always have a backup plan.

You can always reinstall XP and reinstall your apps. You will not lose any
of your personal files. Unless of course you over write them or reformat the
disk they are on (and don't have a backup).


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> DOWN CONOR - its not one of those "How do I get back to XP posts"
>
> I was just wondering if there was any specific technical or other
> reason why MSFT did not include a built in automatic backout in this
> Public Beta to revert to XP. The results of not doing so were entirely
> predictable and have caused a lot of grief to a lot of people, their
> own fault entirely, but still if it was possible it would not have
> been a bad idea.
>
> Jonah
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