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Old 04-22-2007, 12:05 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Jon wrote:
Quote:
> I was advised to remove Windows defender so that my firewall would work. I
> did this and my firewall still did not work. I am now trying to reinstall
> windows defender but I get a message telling me I do not need to as it comes
> with Vista. I am now stuck as I do not have it and can not get it back on my
> system.
>
> "Jesper" wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
>>> Can windows defender be removed?
>> No. You can disable it but you cannot remove it, at least I am not aware of
>> a supported way to do that.
How did you manage to remove Defender, I thought it wasn't possible?
Which firewall is it so we know to avoid it?

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Old 04-28-2007, 07:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Right this is going round in circles - I am in the same boat as Debbie.

Defender claims to be off.

I only have AVG installed in addition to the basic Vista defender.

It worked fine till about 3 weeks ago then Defender just started giving
warning.

I am using Vista Ultimate and have not yet configured anything else.

What do I need to do to fix it so that Defender stays ON?

Whay is everyone having separate discussions around this and no-one
answering the question?

Is it really something that has stumped Microsoft or are people keeping
their mouths shut to wind everyone else up?

Help me please for crying out loud ....

"Jesper" wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
> > Hi there - its debbie again. all the settings in windows defender are set.
> it
Quote:
> > won't stay OPEN, as in running all the time. the real time check box is
> > checked too. I need to allow it to open through the UAC i think but i don't
> > know how.
>
> Debbie, do you have any other security programs installed? You mentioned
> that Vista was preinstalled on your laptop. Is it possible that some other
> security suite was also installed that disables Defender and prevents it from
> running?
>
> Several of the major anti-malware companies do their best to prevent any
> Microsoft security software from running (and discredit what they can't
> stop). If people realize they do not need expensive third-party security
> suites it obviously cuts into their bottom lines. That is why many people on
> this newsgroup recommend AVG anti-virus, which does not interfere with the
> built-in security in Windows.
>
> ---
> Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20
>
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Never ever format your windows for this small issues. I'm very sure you can
Restore your Vista. Goto Start -- All programs -- Accesories -- System Tools-
Restore.

You shoud restore it to the date previous to un-installig the Defender.

Cheer


"Otto Normalverbraucher" wrote:
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> Jon wrote:
Quote:
> > I was advised to remove Windows defender so that my firewall would work. I
> > did this and my firewall still did not work. I am now trying to reinstall
> > windows defender but I get a message telling me I do not need to as it comes
> > with Vista. I am now stuck as I do not have it and can not get it back on my
> > system.
> >
> > "Jesper" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> >>> Can windows defender be removed?
> >> No. You can disable it but you cannot remove it, at least I am not aware of
> >> a supported way to do that.
>
> How did you manage to remove Defender, I thought it wasn't possible?
> Which firewall is it so we know to avoid it?
>
>
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Old 04-29-2007, 01:28 AM   #24 (permalink)
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People aren't answering because they don't know they answer. I don't either.

Run this command from an elevated command prompt please:
sc qc windefend

It should say "START_TYPE : 2 AUTO_START". If it doesn't copy the output and
paste it into a response. Then run these commands:
sc config windefend start=auto
sc start windefend

Nobody knows why it is getting turned off. There is protection in place
against turning it off, so something is clearly causing this problem, but as
we don't know what you have installed, we can't really tell.

---
Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20


"dkintheuk" wrote:
Quote:
> Right this is going round in circles - I am in the same boat as Debbie.
>
> Defender claims to be off.
>
> I only have AVG installed in addition to the basic Vista defender.
>
> It worked fine till about 3 weeks ago then Defender just started giving
> warning.
>
> I am using Vista Ultimate and have not yet configured anything else.
>
> What do I need to do to fix it so that Defender stays ON?
>
> Whay is everyone having separate discussions around this and no-one
> answering the question?
>
> Is it really something that has stumped Microsoft or are people keeping
> their mouths shut to wind everyone else up?
>
> Help me please for crying out loud ....
>
> "Jesper" wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Hi there - its debbie again. all the settings in windows defender are set.
> > it
Quote:
> > > won't stay OPEN, as in running all the time. the real time check box is
> > > checked too. I need to allow it to open through the UAC i think but i don't
> > > know how.
> >
> > Debbie, do you have any other security programs installed? You mentioned
> > that Vista was preinstalled on your laptop. Is it possible that some other
> > security suite was also installed that disables Defender and prevents it from
> > running?
> >
> > Several of the major anti-malware companies do their best to prevent any
> > Microsoft security software from running (and discredit what they can't
> > stop). If people realize they do not need expensive third-party security
> > suites it obviously cuts into their bottom lines. That is why many people on
> > this newsgroup recommend AVG anti-virus, which does not interfere with the
> > built-in security in Windows.
> >
> > ---
> > Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20
> >
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:58 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Jesper,

Thanks so much for your clear reply.

Ran the commands as described and got that the Start Type is
AUTO_START,
I got an Access Denied message for the second command.
I finally got a StartService FAILED 1056 - Already running message.

So I can see that it isn't really off according to Windows but it is
not active according to some other part of the OS...

Anything else I can do to check?

Thanks,

Rob.

On 29 Apr, 02:28, Jesper <Jes...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:
> People aren't answering because they don't know they answer. I don't either.
>
> Run this command from an elevated command prompt please:
> sc qc windefend
>
> It should say "START_TYPE : 2 AUTO_START". If it doesn't copy the output and
> paste it into a response. Then run these commands:
> sc config windefend start=auto
> sc start windefend
>
> Nobody knows why it is getting turned off. There is protection in place
> against turning it off, so something is clearly causing this problem, but as
> we don't know what you have installed, we can't really tell.
>
> ---
> Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20
>
>
>
> "dkintheuk" wrote:
Quote:
> > Right this is going round in circles - I am in the same boat as Debbie.
>
Quote:
> > Defender claims to be off.
>
Quote:
> > I only have AVG installed in addition to the basic Vista defender.
>
Quote:
> > It worked fine till about 3 weeks ago then Defender just started giving
> > warning.
>
Quote:
> > I am using Vista Ultimate and have not yet configured anything else.
>
Quote:
> > What do I need to do to fix it so that Defender stays ON?
>
Quote:
> > Whay is everyone having separate discussions around this and no-one
> > answering the question?
>
Quote:
> > Is it really something that has stumped Microsoft or are people keeping
> > their mouths shut to wind everyone else up?
>
Quote:
> > Help me please for crying out loud ....
>
Quote:
> > "Jesper" wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Hi there - its debbie again. all the settings in windows defender are set.
> > > it
> > > > won't stay OPEN, as in running all the time. the real time check box is
> > > > checked too. I need to allow it to open through the UAC i think but i don't
> > > > know how.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Debbie, do you have any other security programs installed? You mentioned
> > > that Vista was preinstalled on your laptop. Is it possible that some other
> > > security suite was also installed that disables Defender and prevents it from
> > > running?
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Several of the major anti-malware companies do their best to prevent any
> > > Microsoft security software from running (and discredit what they can't
> > > stop). If people realize they do not need expensive third-party security
> > > suites it obviously cuts into their bottom lines. That is why many people on
> > > this newsgroup recommend AVG anti-virus, which does not interfere with the
> > > built-in security in Windows.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > ---
> > > Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
> > >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...tectyourwi-20- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Old 04-29-2007, 05:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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If the SC command says it is running it is. It must be Security Center that
has somehow lost track of Defender. Without having the system in front of me
though I really can't tell why that would be.

You may want to call Microsoft's security support and see if they can help
you figure out what is going on. It is free and you can find the number at
http://support.microsoft.com/default...p/securityhome.
---
Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20


"dkintheuk" wrote:
Quote:
> Jesper,
>
> Thanks so much for your clear reply.
>
> Ran the commands as described and got that the Start Type is
> AUTO_START,
> I got an Access Denied message for the second command.
> I finally got a StartService FAILED 1056 - Already running message.
>
> So I can see that it isn't really off according to Windows but it is
> not active according to some other part of the OS...
>
> Anything else I can do to check?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob.
>
> On 29 Apr, 02:28, Jesper <Jes...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:
> > People aren't answering because they don't know they answer. I don't either.
> >
> > Run this command from an elevated command prompt please:
> > sc qc windefend
> >
> > It should say "START_TYPE : 2 AUTO_START". If it doesn't copy the output and
> > paste it into a response. Then run these commands:
> > sc config windefend start=auto
> > sc start windefend
> >
> > Nobody knows why it is getting turned off. There is protection in place
> > against turning it off, so something is clearly causing this problem, but as
> > we don't know what you have installed, we can't really tell.
> >
> > ---
> > Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...otectyourwi-20
> >
> >
> >
> > "dkintheuk" wrote:
Quote:
> > > Right this is going round in circles - I am in the same boat as Debbie.
> >
Quote:
> > > Defender claims to be off.
> >
Quote:
> > > I only have AVG installed in addition to the basic Vista defender.
> >
Quote:
> > > It worked fine till about 3 weeks ago then Defender just started giving
> > > warning.
> >
Quote:
> > > I am using Vista Ultimate and have not yet configured anything else.
> >
Quote:
> > > What do I need to do to fix it so that Defender stays ON?
> >
Quote:
> > > Whay is everyone having separate discussions around this and no-one
> > > answering the question?
> >
Quote:
> > > Is it really something that has stumped Microsoft or are people keeping
> > > their mouths shut to wind everyone else up?
> >
Quote:
> > > Help me please for crying out loud ....
> >
Quote:
> > > "Jesper" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> > > > > Hi there - its debbie again. all the settings in windows defender are set.
> > > > it
> > > > > won't stay OPEN, as in running all the time. the real time check box is
> > > > > checked too. I need to allow it to open through the UAC i think but i don't
> > > > > know how.
> >
Quote:
> > > > Debbie, do you have any other security programs installed? You mentioned
> > > > that Vista was preinstalled on your laptop. Is it possible that some other
> > > > security suite was also installed that disables Defender and prevents it from
> > > > running?
> >
Quote:
> > > > Several of the major anti-malware companies do their best to prevent any
> > > > Microsoft security software from running (and discredit what they can't
> > > > stop). If people realize they do not need expensive third-party security
> > > > suites it obviously cuts into their bottom lines. That is why many people on
> > > > this newsgroup recommend AVG anti-virus, which does not interfere with the
> > > > built-in security in Windows.
> >
Quote:
> > > > ---
> > > > Your question may already be answered in Windows Vista Security:
> > > >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/047...tectyourwi-20- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
>
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Old 05-03-2007, 07:12 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Hi Charlene,

unfortunately, i have only 2 buttons : allow or cancel.
but i do not have always allow. :-(

so how can i solve it ?

thanks,
Al.

Charlene Shepard [MSFT] wrote:
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> Hi Al, the next time that you get the message, on the Action menu in the
> message dialog box you should be able to allow the software by selecting
> Always Allow. For more information, see Add or remove items from the
> Windows Defender allowed list
> <http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/5d42c151-d187-4eb5-a4a3-8cf163e1b78d1033.mspx>.
>
> Charlene
>
> --
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> Windows User Assistance Team
> Microsoft Corporation
>
>
> "Alain R." <noemail@nospam.com <mailto:noemail@nospam.com>> wrote in
> message news:udNMKnlgHHA.4380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Quote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry to write this message again, but the first one seems as it was not
> > sent.
> >
> > I installed apache 2.2.4 on my vista ultimate and each time i start my
> > computer, windows defender display ApacheMonitor among "blocked startup
> > programs".
> >
> > How can i do to make ApacheMonitor not be blocked by windows defender ?
> >
> > thanks a lot,
> >
> > Al.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:08 AM   #28 (permalink)
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When I try to update definitions I receive error code 0x80240029: The
program can't check for definitions updates. Any suggestion?

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Old 05-08-2007, 02:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Take a look at this knowledgebase article
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/934562/en-us

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> When I try to update definitions I receive error code 0x80240029: The
> program can't check for definitions updates. Any suggestion?
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Old 05-27-2007, 11:37 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Hi, I have noticed that my Windows Defender has an error message. It is
telling me that the program cannot check for definition updates and has an
Error Code: 0x80240029. I cnnot find any fixes, neither can I uninstall
Windows Defender, when I go into my computer and uninstall/install windows
defender it does not appear to be there. I am running vista, can anyone help
me please?
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