Windows Desktop Search

On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:54:59 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
<123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:

>Windows Desktop Search
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...h/default.mspx
>
>FAQ for Windows Desktop Search
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...prise/faq.mspx
>
>Toolbar Help: Getting Started
>http://search.msn.com/docs/toolbar.aspx?FORM=TBTB

Thanks, Wesley, but absolutely none of these help me to actually
access Windows Desktop Search once I've installed it.

There is NO Search Bar of ANY KIND appearing ANYWHERE. In addition,
there is NO entry for Windows Desktop Search in my Start Menu.

I do NOT want to use MSN search for ANYTHING, at ANYTIME. I despise
MSN. I despise ANYTHING having to do with MSN, and I dispise Windows
Messenger, as well as MSN Messenger. I have COMPLETELY uninstalled
ANYTHING having to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger, and
have no intention of reinstalling either of them, until they allow
direct IP connections apart from their servers, so that my brother and
I can communicate via our local wireless network. He runs only OS X,
and I run only XP. He refuses to use any client except iChat via
Bonjour.

Please show me how to access Windows Desktop Search once it is
installed (it currently is installed).


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Donald L McDaniel
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I do not want to have anything to do with Windows Desktop Search myself.

Help! We cannot find Windows Desktop Search. LOL

Is there some sort of a a readme.txt that comes with Windows Desktop Search?

anything here help?

Windows Desktop Search and MSN Search Toolbar Help
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...rces/help.mspx

Windows Desktop Search looks like a POS to me.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:vh0tb2d7mk6qu3k2oc06t8adin6nnp85gu@4ax.com,
Donald McDaniel <orthocross@invalid.invalid> hunted and pecked:

> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:54:59 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
> <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:
>

>> Windows Desktop Search
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...h/default.mspx
>>
>> FAQ for Windows Desktop Search
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...prise/faq.mspx
>>
>> Toolbar Help: Getting Started
>> http://search.msn.com/docs/toolbar.aspx?FORM=TBTB

>
>
> Thanks, Wesley, but absolutely none of these help me to actually
> access Windows Desktop Search once I've installed it.
>
> There is NO Search Bar of ANY KIND appearing ANYWHERE. In addition,
> there is NO entry for Windows Desktop Search in my Start Menu.
>
> I do NOT want to use MSN search for ANYTHING, at ANYTIME. I despise
> MSN. I despise ANYTHING having to do with MSN, and I dispise Windows
> Messenger, as well as MSN Messenger. I have COMPLETELY uninstalled
> ANYTHING having to do with MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger, and
> have no intention of reinstalling either of them, until they allow
> direct IP connections apart from their servers, so that my brother and
> I can communicate via our local wireless network. He runs only OS X,
> and I run only XP. He refuses to use any client except iChat via
> Bonjour.
>
> Please show me how to access Windows Desktop Search once it is
> installed (it currently is installed).
>
>
> ==
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please Reply to the Original Thread.
> ================================================== ======

On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:43:12 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
<123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:

>I do not want to have anything to do with Windows Desktop Search myself.
>
>Help! We cannot find Windows Desktop Search. LOL
>
>Is there some sort of a a readme.txt that comes with Windows Desktop Search?
>
>anything here help?
>
>Windows Desktop Search and MSN Search Toolbar Help
>http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...rces/help.mspx
>
>Windows Desktop Search looks like a POS to me.

Thanks, Wesley.

Something tells me you won't be "MS-MVP of the Year" anytime soon.
I certainly hope so, at least.

==

Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
================================================== ======

Try this.

Right click the Taskbar and select Toolbars, Windows Desk Searchbar

Nothing on the Start Menu?

Windows key + F ??

windowssearch.exe = Windows Desktop Search Tray located some where in
%programfiles%

Possibly
C:\Program Files\MSN Toolbar
Suite\DS\02.02.0000.1007\en-us\bin\WindowsSearch.exe
or
C:\Programmer\MSN Toolbar
Suite\DS\02.02.0000.1007\en-us\bin\WindowsSearch.exe

Also WindowsSearchIndexer.exe

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:vjevb2571bsbm5i1f6o7m70lg4uqigtrf1@4ax.com,
Donald McDaniel <orthocross@invalid.invalid> hunted and pecked:

> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:43:12 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
> <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:
>

>> I do not want to have anything to do with Windows Desktop Search myself.
>>
>> Help! We cannot find Windows Desktop Search. LOL
>>
>> Is there some sort of a a readme.txt that comes with Windows Desktop
>> Search?
>>
>> anything here help?
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search and MSN Search Toolbar Help
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...rces/help.mspx
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search looks like a POS to me.

>
>
> Thanks, Wesley.
>
> Something tells me you won't be "MS-MVP of the Year" anytime soon.
> I certainly hope so, at least.
>
> ==
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please Reply to the Original Thread.
> ================================================== ======

vjevb2571bsbm5i1f6o7m70lg4uqigtrf1@4ax.com,
Donald McDaniel <orthocross@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:43:12 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
> <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:
>

>> I do not want to have anything to do with Windows Desktop
>> Search myself.
>>
>> Help! We cannot find Windows Desktop Search. LOL
>>
>> Is there some sort of a a readme.txt that comes with
>> Windows Desktop Search?
>>
>> anything here help?
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search and MSN Search Toolbar Help
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...rces/help.mspx
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search looks like a POS to me.

>
>
> Thanks, Wesley.
>
> Something tells me you won't be "MS-MVP of the Year" anytime
> soon. I certainly hope so, at least.
>
> ==
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please Reply to the Original Thread.
> ================================================== ======

Actually, if there were such an award, Wes would be a definite
contender.

As for your question, go to Add/Remove Programs.
Click on Windows Desktop Search.
Click on "Click here for support information".
In the box that pops up, click on the "Support Information"
link.
You should end up here:

Description of Windows Desktop Search 3.0 Beta Engine Preview
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917013

The version you have installed on your system is available
here:

Windows Desktop Search 3.0 Beta Engine Preview (KB917013)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Of note in this article are two items, "Beta" and "does not
include full desktop UI". UI stands for User Interface. What
that means is that it's not a standalone program. This version
is offered when you first start Outlook 2007 Beta. That's how
it ended up on my test system.

If you want a standalone version of Windows Desktop search, you
might want to uninstall the version on your computer and
install an earlier version. Take a look at this article for
more info:

Windows Desktop Search 2.6.5 (KB911993)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Good luck

Nepatsfan

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:17 -0400, "Nepatsfan"
<nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote:

>vjevb2571bsbm5i1f6o7m70lg4uqigtrf1@4ax.com,
>Donald McDaniel <orthocross@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:43:12 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
>> <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:
>>

>>> I do not want to have anything to do with Windows Desktop
>>> Search myself.
>>>
>>> Help! We cannot find Windows Desktop Search. LOL
>>>
>>> Is there some sort of a a readme.txt that comes with
>>> Windows Desktop Search?
>>>
>>> anything here help?
>>>
>>> Windows Desktop Search and MSN Search Toolbar Help
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...rces/help.mspx
>>>
>>> Windows Desktop Search looks like a POS to me.

>>
>>
>> Thanks, Wesley.
>>
>> Something tells me you won't be "MS-MVP of the Year" anytime
>> soon. I certainly hope so, at least.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Donald L McDaniel
>> Please Reply to the Original Thread.
>> ================================================== ======

>
>Actually, if there were such an award, Wes would be a definite
>contender.
>
>As for your question, go to Add/Remove Programs.
>Click on Windows Desktop Search.
>Click on "Click here for support information".
>In the box that pops up, click on the "Support Information"
>link.
>You should end up here:
>
>Description of Windows Desktop Search 3.0 Beta Engine Preview
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917013
>
>The version you have installed on your system is available
>here:
>
>Windows Desktop Search 3.0 Beta Engine Preview (KB917013)
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
>Of note in this article are two items, "Beta" and "does not
>include full desktop UI". UI stands for User Interface. What
>that means is that it's not a standalone program. This version
>is offered when you first start Outlook 2007 Beta. That's how
>it ended up on my test system.
>
>If you want a standalone version of Windows Desktop search, you
>might want to uninstall the version on your computer and
>install an earlier version. Take a look at this article for
>more info:
>
>Windows Desktop Search 2.6.5 (KB911993)
>http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
>Good luck
>
>Nepatsfan
>

Thank you, sir. At least I now know that the Search Engine does not
include a full desktop GUI at this current time.

I do have Office 2007 Beta installed. I was not offered the choice to
install even the current search engine.

Even with the Windows Indexing Beta Engine installed, there is no
control within Outlook to access it.

Anyway, I perceive that it is mostly for Vista, rather than XP.
So I will uninstall it, since it is doing me no good. I guess if I
want to use it, I will either have to reinstall Vista Beta 2 (but I
only have the publicly-available beta, which is pretty raunchy), or
install MSN Messenger, which I do NOT want to do.

I guess if I want to do a swift search of my computer, I will have to
boot into OS X. SpotLight works great. Too bad Microsoft doesn't
have a similar control for our Desktops built in to XP, as SpotLight
is.

Why does Apple have to develop all the "good stuff" first? Why can't
Microsoft? They have the necessary tools and resources to be the very
best OS on the Market. But XP is still stuck mostly in the 90s (but
on the other hand, OS X's desktop is still stuck in 1983).

Anyway, thanks...


==

Donald L McDaniel
Please Reply to the Original Thread.
================================================== ======

js22c25fa6ha47lgjr35hs9g4a4lhpr7bn@4ax.com,
Donald McDaniel <orthocross@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:18:17 -0400, "Nepatsfan"
> <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote:
>

>> vjevb2571bsbm5i1f6o7m70lg4uqigtrf1@4ax.com,
>> Donald McDaniel <orthocross@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:43:12 -0600, "Wesley Vogel"
>>> <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not want to have anything to do with Windows Desktop
>>>> Search myself.
>>>>
>>>> Help! We cannot find Windows Desktop Search. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Is there some sort of a a readme.txt that comes with
>>>> Windows Desktop Search?
>>>>
>>>> anything here help?
>>>>
>>>> Windows Desktop Search and MSN Search Toolbar Help
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/des...rces/help.mspx
>>>>
>>>> Windows Desktop Search looks like a POS to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Wesley.
>>>
>>> Something tells me you won't be "MS-MVP of the Year"
>>> anytime soon. I certainly hope so, at least.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Donald L McDaniel
>>> Please Reply to the Original Thread.
>>> ================================================== ======

>>
>> Actually, if there were such an award, Wes would be a
>> definite contender.
>>
>> As for your question, go to Add/Remove Programs.
>> Click on Windows Desktop Search.
>> Click on "Click here for support information".
>> In the box that pops up, click on the "Support Information"
>> link.
>> You should end up here:
>>
>> Description of Windows Desktop Search 3.0 Beta Engine
>> Preview http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=917013
>>
>> The version you have installed on your system is available
>> here:
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search 3.0 Beta Engine Preview (KB917013)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>> Of note in this article are two items, "Beta" and "does not
>> include full desktop UI". UI stands for User Interface. What
>> that means is that it's not a standalone program. This
>> version is offered when you first start Outlook 2007 Beta.
>> That's how it ended up on my test system.
>>
>> If you want a standalone version of Windows Desktop search,
>> you might want to uninstall the version on your computer and
>> install an earlier version. Take a look at this article for
>> more info:
>>
>> Windows Desktop Search 2.6.5 (KB911993)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Nepatsfan
>>

>
> Thank you, sir. At least I now know that the Search Engine
> does not include a full desktop GUI at this current time.
>
> I do have Office 2007 Beta installed. I was not offered the
> choice to install even the current search engine.
>
> Even with the Windows Indexing Beta Engine installed, there
> is no control within Outlook to access it.
>
> Anyway, I perceive that it is mostly for Vista, rather than
> XP.
> So I will uninstall it, since it is doing me no good. I
> guess if I want to use it, I will either have to reinstall
> Vista Beta 2 (but I only have the publicly-available beta,
> which is pretty raunchy), or install MSN Messenger, which I
> do NOT want to do.
>
> I guess if I want to do a swift search of my computer, I
> will have to boot into OS X. SpotLight works great. Too
> bad Microsoft doesn't have a similar control for our
> Desktops built in to XP, as SpotLight is.
>
> Why does Apple have to develop all the "good stuff" first?
> Why can't Microsoft? They have the necessary tools and
> resources to be the very best OS on the Market. But XP is
> still stuck mostly in the 90s (but on the other hand, OS X's
> desktop is still stuck in 1983).
>
> Anyway, thanks...
>
>
> ==
>
> Donald L McDaniel
> Please Reply to the Original Thread.
> ================================================== ======

So after you uninstall the version that's currently installed
on your computer, you might want to try the version that's
offered here by clicking on "Download Desktop Search without
the Toolbar".

Windows Desktop Search
http://desktop.msn.com/

You should end up here:

Windows Desktop Search 2.6.5
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Scroll to the bottom and download this file,
WindowsDesktopSearch-kb911993-V2-x86-ENU.exe

This version will put an entry on your Start menu. You can also
have it accessible through your Taskbar.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

I am using Windows XP SP2 and Office 2007 Beta 2 (RC1) - all Up to date.

When I started Desktop Search I added a number of other Directories to be
indexed including some on other Partitions (G Drive etc). Search successfully
index 30,000+ Documents and works fine.

If I reboot the System - it appears to lose the Index - noting only 2500
Documents indexed - and the List of Indexed Locations returns to the Default
of Outlook and not those that I added.

Any suggestions as only workaround is to re-index every time I start the
machine.

Is this a Office 2007 Beta Issue or Desktop Search