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Old 10-07-2007, 08:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail account if
you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to get
the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).

Carl

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Old 10-07-2007, 09:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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CSM

The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities. Make
sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.

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> Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
> Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail account
> if
> you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
> Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to
> get
> the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
>
> Carl
>
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.

As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
that rather than the Windows Mail?

I can't believe they took away the password feature!

Carl


"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
Quote:
> CSM
>
> The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
> account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities. Make
> sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C72B9E9C-B96D-4B1A-B239-BDC925FF86B8@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> > Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with Vista?
> > Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail account
> > if
> > you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
> > Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to
> > get
> > the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
> >
> > Carl
> >
>
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
prompt.

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steve.riley@microsoft.com
http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com


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Quote:
> So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
> logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
>
> As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
> that rather than the Windows Mail?
>
> I can't believe they took away the password feature!
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> CSM
>>
>> The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
>> account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities.
>> Make
>> sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ronnie Vernon
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C72B9E9C-B96D-4B1A-B239-BDC925FF86B8@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>> > Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with
>> > Vista?
>> > Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
>> > account
>> > if
>> > you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
>> > Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to
>> > get
>> > the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>>
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Old 10-08-2007, 02:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I do use the user account login features, and I still think that you should
at least have the option for having a password for the email login. Just
having the user login is not enough. If you are logged into your user
account as you might be continually during the day, it is important that
there is an extra layer of security to emails, as they often contain
confidential information. Please review and add it back as an option. If
people want it, they can use it, if people are happy with not setting it,
then they can leave it open.

Is there a way I can load Outlook Express to replace the Windows Mail so
that I can get back this important feature?

Carl


"Steve Riley [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:
> Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
> applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
> files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
> access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
> administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
> equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
> prompt.
>
> --
> Steve Riley
> steve.riley@microsoft.com
> http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
> http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
>
>
> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:73800EFB-1A7D-43E8-80E0-5A54774081CB@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> > So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
> > logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
> >
> > As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and use
> > that rather than the Windows Mail?
> >
> > I can't believe they took away the password feature!
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> >> CSM
> >>
> >> The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
> >> account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old indentities.
> >> Make
> >> sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows Shell/User
> >>
> >>
> >> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:C72B9E9C-B96D-4B1A-B239-BDC925FF86B8@microsoft.com...
> >> > Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with
> >> > Vista?
> >> > Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
> >> > account
> >> > if
> >> > you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer has
> >> > Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password to
> >> > get
> >> > the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >>
>
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Old 10-08-2007, 03:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Csm

You already have enough layers, don't you?

You have your user account login password to get into the system and you
also have the email account password. If you want to require a password in
Windows Mail, just leave the password blank in the your email account
configuration. This will force a prompt each time you want to check your
email. The only way anyone could possibly access your email files would be
if you logged on and then walked away from the computer and someone else sat
down to use the computer. If you have to leave while the computer is running
just press WINKEY+L to lock the system.

To answer your other question, you cannot use Outlook Express on Vista.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


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Quote:
>I do use the user account login features, and I still think that you should
> at least have the option for having a password for the email login.
> Just
> having the user login is not enough. If you are logged into your user
> account as you might be continually during the day, it is important that
> there is an extra layer of security to emails, as they often contain
> confidential information. Please review and add it back as an option.
> If
> people want it, they can use it, if people are happy with not setting it,
> then they can leave it open.
>
> Is there a way I can load Outlook Express to replace the Windows Mail so
> that I can get back this important feature?
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Steve Riley [MSFT]" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
>> applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
>> files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
>> access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
>> administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
>> equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
>> prompt.
>>
>> --
>> Steve Riley
>> steve.riley@microsoft.com
>> http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
>> http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
>>
>>
>> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:73800EFB-1A7D-43E8-80E0-5A54774081CB@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>> > So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
>> > logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
>> >
>> > As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and
>> > use
>> > that rather than the Windows Mail?
>> >
>> > I can't believe they took away the password feature!
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> CSM
>> >>
>> >> The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
>> >> account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old
>> >> indentities.
>> >> Make
>> >> sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Ronnie Vernon
>> >> Microsoft MVP
>> >> Windows Shell/User
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:C72B9E9C-B96D-4B1A-B239-BDC925FF86B8@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with
>> >> > Vista?
>> >> > Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
>> >> > account
>> >> > if
>> >> > you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer
>> >> > has
>> >> > Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password
>> >> > to
>> >> > get
>> >> > the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
>> >> >
>> >> > Carl
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
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Old 10-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It isn't the password for checking email (ie for the download) that is my
concern, it is the one for entering the OE application. I guess I can
lock the whole account like you noted, but I still think that any email
application should have password to enter it.

Carl

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
Quote:
> Csm
>
> You already have enough layers, don't you?
>
> You have your user account login password to get into the system and you
> also have the email account password. If you want to require a password in
> Windows Mail, just leave the password blank in the your email account
> configuration. This will force a prompt each time you want to check your
> email. The only way anyone could possibly access your email files would be
> if you logged on and then walked away from the computer and someone else sat
> down to use the computer. If you have to leave while the computer is running
> just press WINKEY+L to lock the system.
>
> To answer your other question, you cannot use Outlook Express on Vista.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
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checking windows mail ...now getting pop up that asks for my user name and
password for admin account..then series of error messages related to internet
carrier. Please help! Happened after Omni pass was unistalled/reinstalled.
double icons disappeared for standard and admin accounts. Also, two seperate
accounts for user and admin set up with different passwords. Formerly, had
same password for both.

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
Quote:
> Csm
>
> You already have enough layers, don't you?
>
> You have your user account login password to get into the system and you
> also have the email account password. If you want to require a password in
> Windows Mail, just leave the password blank in the your email account
> configuration. This will force a prompt each time you want to check your
> email. The only way anyone could possibly access your email files would be
> if you logged on and then walked away from the computer and someone else sat
> down to use the computer. If you have to leave while the computer is running
> just press WINKEY+L to lock the system.
>
> To answer your other question, you cannot use Outlook Express on Vista.
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news28F05F5-91A7-4FEE-B791-A1DB97B8AC9D@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >I do use the user account login features, and I still think that you should
> > at least have the option for having a password for the email login.
> > Just
> > having the user login is not enough. If you are logged into your user
> > account as you might be continually during the day, it is important that
> > there is an extra layer of security to emails, as they often contain
> > confidential information. Please review and add it back as an option.
> > If
> > people want it, they can use it, if people are happy with not setting it,
> > then they can leave it open.
> >
> > Is there a way I can load Outlook Express to replace the Windows Mail so
> > that I can get back this important feature?
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Steve Riley [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> >> Don't think of it as removing a feature. Rather, we are reworking
> >> applications so that all identity is tied to your user logon. Your email
> >> files and contact information are stored in a folder that only you have
> >> access to. Other user accounts on the system (with the exception of the
> >> administrator) don't have access to those folders. So you are getting
> >> equivalent protection, just without the unnecessary additional password
> >> prompt.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Steve Riley
> >> steve.riley@microsoft.com
> >> http://blogs.technet.com/steriley
> >> http://www.protectyourwindowsnetwork.com
> >>
> >>
> >> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:73800EFB-1A7D-43E8-80E0-5A54774081CB@microsoft.com...
> >> > So is there no way to set password on the email account itself? If I'm
> >> > logged in to Vista, I still want to have my email protected.
> >> >
> >> > As alternate solution, is there a way I can load Outlook Express and
> >> > use
> >> > that rather than the Windows Mail?
> >> >
> >> > I can't believe they took away the password feature!
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> CSM
> >> >>
> >> >> The identities structure has been removed from Windows Mail. Your user
> >> >> account when you log onto Vista takes the place of the old
> >> >> indentities.
> >> >> Make
> >> >> sure you have a good, strong password on your user account.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Ronnie Vernon
> >> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> >> Windows Shell/User
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "csm" <csm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:C72B9E9C-B96D-4B1A-B239-BDC925FF86B8@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Is there a way to set a password for Windows Mail that comes with
> >> >> > Vista?
> >> >> > Outlook Express had this feature so you could not log into a mail
> >> >> > account
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > you set a password on that Identity. I see Windows Mail no longer
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > Identities, but do they have a Password feature? (not the password
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > the POP mail, but a password to open the Mail application).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Carl
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi Carl

What exactly is it that these guys don't understand. Do they actuall
work for Microsoft

Its plain and simple, we want a way to lock the email applicatio
itself, meaning that if somebody tried to open Windows Mail after it
closed, then it will prompt for a password - PLAIN AND SIMPLE

Why? Because you may want other users to use your profile, rather tha
switching profiles but have the added security that they can't go int
your email application and view emails, past and present

Its most ridiculous that they removed this feature, these guys don'
live in the real world

I look forward to the day they put this feature back on and star
realising that this is what people WANT!!

Regards and feeling your frustration too

Dann

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Old 06-24-2008, 01:39 AM   #10 (permalink)
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:13:32 -0500, dannygallo
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
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>
>Hi Carl,
You are replying to a post from LAST OCTOBER.

That doesn't mark you as being one of the brightest bulbs in the
string.
Quote:
>What exactly is it that these guys don't understand. Do they actually
>work for Microsoft?
>
>Its plain and simple, we want a way to lock the email application
>itself, meaning that if somebody tried to open Windows Mail after its
>closed, then it will prompt for a password - PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
>
>Why? Because you may want other users to use your profile, rather than
>switching profiles but have the added security that they can't go into
>your email application and view emails, past and present.
>
>Its most ridiculous that they removed this feature, these guys don't
>live in the real world.
>
>I look forward to the day they put this feature back on and start
>realising that this is what people WANT!!!
>
>Regards and feeling your frustration too.
>
>Danny
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