Windows Mail: Are there command line parameters?

Thanks Steve.

Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it or
--really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!

My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re: prefilling
the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail puts up
with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that why I THINK
the dialog comes up.

I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by creating an
oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the registry
to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose an API for
encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like to
prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then the user
would just have to type in their password and the account would be set!

Please tell me this is possible.

Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......


--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Hi George,
>
> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are similar to
> that of OE.
>
> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and settings
> within a given user profile.
>
> steve
>
> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...

> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters (if any)?
> >
> > I am especailly interested in an import or "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks so much,
> >
> > george
> >
> > _________________________
> > George S. Lockwood
> > Lead Client Developer
> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >

>

Hi George,

Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know how
to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump it to
the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set as
default account in the registry here:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM

There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.

So that should work, but there may be bugs.

The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff is
supposed to come up pre-populated.

cheers,

steve

"GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...

> Thanks Steve.
>
> Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it or
> --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
>
> My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
> prefilling
> the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail puts up
> with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that why I
> THINK
> the dialog comes up.
>
> I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by creating an
> oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
> registry
> to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose an API
> for
> encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like to
> prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then the
> user
> would just have to type in their password and the account would be set!
>
> Please tell me this is possible.
>
> Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
>
>
> --
> Thanks so much,
>
> george
>
> _________________________
> George S. Lockwood
> Lead Client Developer
> peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>

>> Hi George,
>>
>> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are similar
>> to
>> that of OE.
>>
>> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
>> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
>> settings
>> within a given user profile.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...

>> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters (if
>> > any)?
>> >
>> > I am especailly interested in an import or "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks so much,
>> >
>> > george
>> >
>> > _________________________
>> > George S. Lockwood
>> > Lead Client Developer
>> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >

>>

Thanks, Steve.

Yes I'm doing exactly as you describe. But when you open winmail you get
the dialog with 2 blank text boxs prefilled "Username" & "Password".

The dialog DOES know the Account name --or maybe it is the Displayname-- as
its banner reads "Log into" + the account name.



An observation:

If one fills in the correct username and password, the account file
changes...but not just with an encrpted password!! The filename changes to
use a GUID and there are several new IMAP_ xml elements added!!

The filename change is just a nuisance I suppose but could these additions
be required?????

<<I doubt that: I think it the fact that it cannot deal with a malformed
password>>

george



--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Hi George,
>
> Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know how
> to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
> and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
> populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump it to
> the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set as
> default account in the registry here:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM
>
> There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.
>
> So that should work, but there may be bugs.
>
> The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff is
> supposed to come up pre-populated.
>
> cheers,
>
> steve
>
> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks Steve.
> >
> > Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it or
> > --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
> >
> > My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
> > prefilling
> > the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail puts up
> > with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that why I
> > THINK
> > the dialog comes up.
> >
> > I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by creating an
> > oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
> > registry
> > to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose an API
> > for
> > encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like to
> > prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then the
> > user
> > would just have to type in their password and the account would be set!
> >
> > Please tell me this is possible.
> >
> > Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks so much,
> >
> > george
> >
> > _________________________
> > George S. Lockwood
> > Lead Client Developer
> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >

> >> Hi George,
> >>
> >> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are similar
> >> to
> >> that of OE.
> >>
> >> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
> >> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
> >> settings
> >> within a given user profile.
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...
> >> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters (if
> >> > any)?
> >> >
> >> > I am especailly interested in an import or "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks so much,
> >> >
> >> > george
> >> >
> >> > _________________________
> >> > George S. Lockwood
> >> > Lead Client Developer
> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >> >
> >>

>

Hi George,

I told you how it is supposed to work, not how it does work. <G>

I haven't actually tested it. I do know that some fields in some of the xml
files are supposed to persist and they don't.

In your situation, once the user does specify username and password, does
that stick? Some are having issues with that not sticking, apparently due
to permissions issues.

steve

"GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:6BBC380E-B36A-4CB5-A403-844D6ED75FCF@microsoft.com...

> Thanks, Steve.
>
> Yes I'm doing exactly as you describe. But when you open winmail you get
> the dialog with 2 blank text boxs prefilled "Username" & "Password".
>
> The dialog DOES know the Account name --or maybe it is the Displayname--
> as
> its banner reads "Log into" + the account name.
>
>
>
> An observation:
>
> If one fills in the correct username and password, the account file
> changes...but not just with an encrpted password!! The filename changes
> to
> use a GUID and there are several new IMAP_ xml elements added!!
>
> The filename change is just a nuisance I suppose but could these additions
> be required?????
>
> <<I doubt that: I think it the fact that it cannot deal with a malformed
> password>>
>
> george
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks so much,
>
> george
>
> _________________________
> George S. Lockwood
> Lead Client Developer
> peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>

>> Hi George,
>>
>> Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know
>> how
>> to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
>> and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
>> populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump it
>> to
>> the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set as
>> default account in the registry here:
>>
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM
>>
>> There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.
>>
>> So that should work, but there may be bugs.
>>
>> The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff is
>> supposed to come up pre-populated.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks Steve.
>> >
>> > Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it or
>> > --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
>> >
>> > My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
>> > prefilling
>> > the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail puts
>> > up
>> > with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that why I
>> > THINK
>> > the dialog comes up.
>> >
>> > I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by creating
>> > an
>> > oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
>> > registry
>> > to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose an
>> > API
>> > for
>> > encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like to
>> > prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then the
>> > user
>> > would just have to type in their password and the account would be set!
>> >
>> > Please tell me this is possible.
>> >
>> > Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks so much,
>> >
>> > george
>> >
>> > _________________________
>> > George S. Lockwood
>> > Lead Client Developer
>> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi George,
>> >>
>> >> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are
>> >> similar
>> >> to
>> >> that of OE.
>> >>
>> >> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
>> >> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
>> >> settings
>> >> within a given user profile.
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters (if
>> >> > any)?
>> >> >
>> >> > I am especailly interested in an import or
>> >> > "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks so much,
>> >> >
>> >> > george
>> >> >
>> >> > _________________________
>> >> > George S. Lockwood
>> >> > Lead Client Developer
>> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >> >
>> >>

>>

Steve,

No problems after you enter the username and password in those bloody
boxes...as I said in this or the other thread about this problem, the
oeaccount file name gets changed to use a random GUID, AND there are about a
dozen IMAP xml elements that are added, but the account works from then on
out.

What I have not tried --no confidence in a solution here-- is to write all
those IMAP elements to the oeaccount file when I compose it in the first
place.

Very interested in hearing any news from your investigations!


--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company



"Steve Cochran" wrote:

> Hi George,
>
> I told you how it is supposed to work, not how it does work. <G>
>
> I haven't actually tested it. I do know that some fields in some of the xml
> files are supposed to persist and they don't.
>
> In your situation, once the user does specify username and password, does
> that stick? Some are having issues with that not sticking, apparently due
> to permissions issues.
>
> steve
>
> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> news:6BBC380E-B36A-4CB5-A403-844D6ED75FCF@microsoft.com...

> > Thanks, Steve.
> >
> > Yes I'm doing exactly as you describe. But when you open winmail you get
> > the dialog with 2 blank text boxs prefilled "Username" & "Password".
> >
> > The dialog DOES know the Account name --or maybe it is the Displayname--
> > as
> > its banner reads "Log into" + the account name.
> >
> >
> >
> > An observation:
> >
> > If one fills in the correct username and password, the account file
> > changes...but not just with an encrpted password!! The filename changes
> > to
> > use a GUID and there are several new IMAP_ xml elements added!!
> >
> > The filename change is just a nuisance I suppose but could these additions
> > be required?????
> >
> > <<I doubt that: I think it the fact that it cannot deal with a malformed
> > password>>
> >
> > george
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks so much,
> >
> > george
> >
> > _________________________
> > George S. Lockwood
> > Lead Client Developer
> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >

> >> Hi George,
> >>
> >> Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know
> >> how
> >> to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
> >> and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
> >> populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump it
> >> to
> >> the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set as
> >> default account in the registry here:
> >>
> >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM
> >>
> >> There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.
> >>
> >> So that should work, but there may be bugs.
> >>
> >> The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff is
> >> supposed to come up pre-populated.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks Steve.
> >> >
> >> > Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it or
> >> > --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
> >> >
> >> > My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
> >> > prefilling
> >> > the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail puts
> >> > up
> >> > with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that why I
> >> > THINK
> >> > the dialog comes up.
> >> >
> >> > I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by creating
> >> > an
> >> > oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
> >> > registry
> >> > to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose an
> >> > API
> >> > for
> >> > encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like to
> >> > prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then the
> >> > user
> >> > would just have to type in their password and the account would be set!
> >> >
> >> > Please tell me this is possible.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks so much,
> >> >
> >> > george
> >> >
> >> > _________________________
> >> > George S. Lockwood
> >> > Lead Client Developer
> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi George,
> >> >>
> >> >> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are
> >> >> similar
> >> >> to
> >> >> that of OE.
> >> >>
> >> >> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
> >> >> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
> >> >> settings
> >> >> within a given user profile.
> >> >>
> >> >> steve
> >> >>
> >> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters (if
> >> >> > any)?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am especailly interested in an import or
> >> >> > "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks so much,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > george
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _________________________
> >> >> > George S. Lockwood
> >> >> > Lead Client Developer
> >> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>

>

Wait. Are you talking IMAP or POP3? I know nothing about IMAP.

steve

"GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:C22AD13C-C93A-4DDD-9195-82FCA4CAA2A7@microsoft.com...

> Steve,
>
> No problems after you enter the username and password in those bloody
> boxes...as I said in this or the other thread about this problem, the
> oeaccount file name gets changed to use a random GUID, AND there are about
> a
> dozen IMAP xml elements that are added, but the account works from then on
> out.
>
> What I have not tried --no confidence in a solution here-- is to write all
> those IMAP elements to the oeaccount file when I compose it in the first
> place.
>
> Very interested in hearing any news from your investigations!
>
>
> --
> Thanks so much,
>
> george
>
> _________________________
> George S. Lockwood
> Lead Client Developer
> peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>

>> Hi George,
>>
>> I told you how it is supposed to work, not how it does work. <G>
>>
>> I haven't actually tested it. I do know that some fields in some of the
>> xml
>> files are supposed to persist and they don't.
>>
>> In your situation, once the user does specify username and password, does
>> that stick? Some are having issues with that not sticking, apparently
>> due
>> to permissions issues.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:6BBC380E-B36A-4CB5-A403-844D6ED75FCF@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks, Steve.
>> >
>> > Yes I'm doing exactly as you describe. But when you open winmail you
>> > get
>> > the dialog with 2 blank text boxs prefilled "Username" & "Password".
>> >
>> > The dialog DOES know the Account name --or maybe it is the
>> > Displayname--
>> > as
>> > its banner reads "Log into" + the account name.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > An observation:
>> >
>> > If one fills in the correct username and password, the account file
>> > changes...but not just with an encrpted password!! The filename
>> > changes
>> > to
>> > use a GUID and there are several new IMAP_ xml elements added!!
>> >
>> > The filename change is just a nuisance I suppose but could these
>> > additions
>> > be required?????
>> >
>> > <<I doubt that: I think it the fact that it cannot deal with a
>> > malformed
>> > password>>
>> >
>> > george
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks so much,
>> >
>> > george
>> >
>> > _________________________
>> > George S. Lockwood
>> > Lead Client Developer
>> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi George,
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know
>> >> how
>> >> to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
>> >> and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
>> >> populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump
>> >> it
>> >> to
>> >> the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set
>> >> as
>> >> default account in the registry here:
>> >>
>> >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM
>> >>
>> >> There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.
>> >>
>> >> So that should work, but there may be bugs.
>> >>
>> >> The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff
>> >> is
>> >> supposed to come up pre-populated.
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks Steve.
>> >> >
>> >> > Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it
>> >> > or
>> >> > --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
>> >> > prefilling
>> >> > the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail
>> >> > puts
>> >> > up
>> >> > with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that
>> >> > why I
>> >> > THINK
>> >> > the dialog comes up.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by
>> >> > creating
>> >> > an
>> >> > oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
>> >> > registry
>> >> > to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose
>> >> > an
>> >> > API
>> >> > for
>> >> > encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like
>> >> > to
>> >> > prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then
>> >> > the
>> >> > user
>> >> > would just have to type in their password and the account would be
>> >> > set!
>> >> >
>> >> > Please tell me this is possible.
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks so much,
>> >> >
>> >> > george
>> >> >
>> >> > _________________________
>> >> > George S. Lockwood
>> >> > Lead Client Developer
>> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi George,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are
>> >> >> similar
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> that of OE.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
>> >> >> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
>> >> >> settings
>> >> >> within a given user profile.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> steve
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters
>> >> >> > (if
>> >> >> > any)?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am especailly interested in an import or
>> >> >> > "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks so much,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > george
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _________________________
>> >> >> > George S. Lockwood
>> >> >> > Lead Client Developer
>> >> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>

>>

Check various oeaccount files and you may see different results. Some long,
some short, some IMAP included. Never have looked into why the account
settings will be different (and it's just not http) but it's been that way
since OE5.0

So, when thinking about writing the data to the xml files, you might want to
look into other settings as well.



"GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:C22AD13C-C93A-4DDD-9195-82FCA4CAA2A7@microsoft.com...

> Steve,
>
> No problems after you enter the username and password in those bloody
> boxes...as I said in this or the other thread about this problem, the
> oeaccount file name gets changed to use a random GUID, AND there are about
> a
> dozen IMAP xml elements that are added, but the account works from then on
> out.
>
> What I have not tried --no confidence in a solution here-- is to write all
> those IMAP elements to the oeaccount file when I compose it in the first
> place.
>
> Very interested in hearing any news from your investigations!
>
>
> --
> Thanks so much,
>
> george
>
> _________________________
> George S. Lockwood
> Lead Client Developer
> peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>
>
>
> "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>

>> Hi George,
>>
>> I told you how it is supposed to work, not how it does work. <G>
>>
>> I haven't actually tested it. I do know that some fields in some of the
>> xml
>> files are supposed to persist and they don't.
>>
>> In your situation, once the user does specify username and password, does
>> that stick? Some are having issues with that not sticking, apparently
>> due
>> to permissions issues.
>>
>> steve
>>
>> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> news:6BBC380E-B36A-4CB5-A403-844D6ED75FCF@microsoft.com...

>> > Thanks, Steve.
>> >
>> > Yes I'm doing exactly as you describe. But when you open winmail you
>> > get
>> > the dialog with 2 blank text boxs prefilled "Username" & "Password".
>> >
>> > The dialog DOES know the Account name --or maybe it is the
>> > Displayname--
>> > as
>> > its banner reads "Log into" + the account name.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > An observation:
>> >
>> > If one fills in the correct username and password, the account file
>> > changes...but not just with an encrpted password!! The filename
>> > changes
>> > to
>> > use a GUID and there are several new IMAP_ xml elements added!!
>> >
>> > The filename change is just a nuisance I suppose but could these
>> > additions
>> > be required?????
>> >
>> > <<I doubt that: I think it the fact that it cannot deal with a
>> > malformed
>> > password>>
>> >
>> > george
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks so much,
>> >
>> > george
>> >
>> > _________________________
>> > George S. Lockwood
>> > Lead Client Developer
>> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi George,
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know
>> >> how
>> >> to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
>> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
>> >> and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
>> >> populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump
>> >> it
>> >> to
>> >> the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set
>> >> as
>> >> default account in the registry here:
>> >>
>> >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM
>> >>
>> >> There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.
>> >>
>> >> So that should work, but there may be bugs.
>> >>
>> >> The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff
>> >> is
>> >> supposed to come up pre-populated.
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >>
>> >> steve
>> >>
>> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
>> >> news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks Steve.
>> >> >
>> >> > Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it
>> >> > or
>> >> > --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
>> >> > prefilling
>> >> > the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail
>> >> > puts
>> >> > up
>> >> > with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that
>> >> > why I
>> >> > THINK
>> >> > the dialog comes up.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by
>> >> > creating
>> >> > an
>> >> > oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
>> >> > registry
>> >> > to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose
>> >> > an
>> >> > API
>> >> > for
>> >> > encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like
>> >> > to
>> >> > prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then
>> >> > the
>> >> > user
>> >> > would just have to type in their password and the account would be
>> >> > set!
>> >> >
>> >> > Please tell me this is possible.
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks so much,
>> >> >
>> >> > george
>> >> >
>> >> > _________________________
>> >> > George S. Lockwood
>> >> > Lead Client Developer
>> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi George,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are
>> >> >> similar
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> that of OE.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
>> >> >> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
>> >> >> settings
>> >> >> within a given user profile.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> steve
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters
>> >> >> > (if
>> >> >> > any)?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am especailly interested in an import or
>> >> >> > "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Thanks so much,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > george
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _________________________
>> >> >> > George S. Lockwood
>> >> >> > Lead Client Developer
>> >> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>

>>

Hello Steve, DGuess

Steve,
To summarize, I:

1.Compose account files with pop and smpt elements.

2.Run WinMail
that dialog comes up and I type in the correct (with domain) email address
and text password.

3.The account begins to work and subsequent winmail launches are successful
(no more dialogs).


A look at the oeaccount file shows 3 things that Winmail has done:

1. New GUID'ized file name. (surprise)

2. byte array Password 324 length. (expected)

3. Added IMAP elements (surprise)


DGuess,

thank you for your response but I'm afraid I don't understand it? What
solution are you suggesting to try?


thanks to both!


--
Thanks so much,

george

_________________________
George S. Lockwood
Lead Client Developer
peoplePC, an EarthLink company



"DGuess" wrote:

> Check various oeaccount files and you may see different results. Some long,
> some short, some IMAP included. Never have looked into why the account
> settings will be different (and it's just not http) but it's been that way
> since OE5.0
>
> So, when thinking about writing the data to the xml files, you might want to
> look into other settings as well.
>
>
>
> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> news:C22AD13C-C93A-4DDD-9195-82FCA4CAA2A7@microsoft.com...

> > Steve,
> >
> > No problems after you enter the username and password in those bloody
> > boxes...as I said in this or the other thread about this problem, the
> > oeaccount file name gets changed to use a random GUID, AND there are about
> > a
> > dozen IMAP xml elements that are added, but the account works from then on
> > out.
> >
> > What I have not tried --no confidence in a solution here-- is to write all
> > those IMAP elements to the oeaccount file when I compose it in the first
> > place.
> >
> > Very interested in hearing any news from your investigations!
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks so much,
> >
> > george
> >
> > _________________________
> > George S. Lockwood
> > Lead Client Developer
> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >
> >
> >
> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >

> >> Hi George,
> >>
> >> I told you how it is supposed to work, not how it does work. <G>
> >>
> >> I haven't actually tested it. I do know that some fields in some of the
> >> xml
> >> files are supposed to persist and they don't.
> >>
> >> In your situation, once the user does specify username and password, does
> >> that stick? Some are having issues with that not sticking, apparently
> >> due
> >> to permissions issues.
> >>
> >> steve
> >>
> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> >> news:6BBC380E-B36A-4CB5-A403-844D6ED75FCF@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks, Steve.
> >> >
> >> > Yes I'm doing exactly as you describe. But when you open winmail you
> >> > get
> >> > the dialog with 2 blank text boxs prefilled "Username" & "Password".
> >> >
> >> > The dialog DOES know the Account name --or maybe it is the
> >> > Displayname--
> >> > as
> >> > its banner reads "Log into" + the account name.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > An observation:
> >> >
> >> > If one fills in the correct username and password, the account file
> >> > changes...but not just with an encrpted password!! The filename
> >> > changes
> >> > to
> >> > use a GUID and there are several new IMAP_ xml elements added!!
> >> >
> >> > The filename change is just a nuisance I suppose but could these
> >> > additions
> >> > be required?????
> >> >
> >> > <<I doubt that: I think it the fact that it cannot deal with a
> >> > malformed
> >> > password>>
> >> >
> >> > george
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Thanks so much,
> >> >
> >> > george
> >> >
> >> > _________________________
> >> > George S. Lockwood
> >> > Lead Client Developer
> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi George,
> >> >>
> >> >> Yeah, we had this issue come up before. They aren't gonna let us know
> >> >> how
> >> >> to fill in the password for the user, but you saw this didn't you:
> >> >> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...ount_entry.asp
> >> >> and specifically the xml file specifications? You should be able to
> >> >> populate the proper fields in the xml file for the user and then dump
> >> >> it
> >> >> to
> >> >> the message store under the Local Folders directory and then its set
> >> >> as
> >> >> default account in the registry here:
> >> >>
> >> >> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\IAM
> >> >>
> >> >> There is a Default Mail Account value under that key. Set that value.
> >> >>
> >> >> So that should work, but there may be bugs.
> >> >>
> >> >> The user will still be prompted for the password, but the other stuff
> >> >> is
> >> >> supposed to come up pre-populated.
> >> >>
> >> >> cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> steve
> >> >>
> >> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
> >> >> news:4FC47CB2-E7F8-4F9A-8F4A-A3E6CBE29ECD@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Thanks Steve.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Actually I saw that wmi posting but didn't know what to do with it
> >> >> > or
> >> >> > --really-- if it is directed to my actual issue. But thanks!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My real issue is written up in another posting to this forum re:
> >> >> > prefilling
> >> >> > the account name (or email address) in the Security dialog Winmail
> >> >> > puts
> >> >> > up
> >> >> > with the oeaccount file has an incorrect password. At least that
> >> >> > why I
> >> >> > THINK
> >> >> > the dialog comes up.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am simply trying to make the new user experience better by
> >> >> > creating
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > oeaccount file, filled with all the xml it would need, setting the
> >> >> > registry
> >> >> > to point to it as the default mail account. Since MS won't expose
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > API
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > encrypting a text into a compatible password, I would at least like
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > prefill that text field with the account name or email name. Then
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > user
> >> >> > would just have to type in their password and the account would be
> >> >> > set!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Please tell me this is possible.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Maybe I'm leaving out the critical xml element for this.......
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Thanks so much,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > george
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _________________________
> >> >> > George S. Lockwood
> >> >> > Lead Client Developer
> >> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Steve Cochran" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi George,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Nothing like that unfortunately. The command line parameters are
> >> >> >> similar
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> that of OE.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I did add a utility to bring back the Identities feature:
> >> >> >> www.oehelp.com/WMIDs/ That allows for different message stores and
> >> >> >> settings
> >> >> >> within a given user profile.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> steve
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "GSLockwood (IUnknown)" <IUnknown@newsgroups.nospam> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:4FD462AF-5D5A-48DD-A03E-150B2BB55AAE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Is there a list of all the Windows Mail: command line parameters
> >> >> >> > (if
> >> >> >> > any)?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am especailly interested in an import or
> >> >> >> > "use-this-oeaccount-file"...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Thanks so much,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > george
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > _________________________
> >> >> >> > George S. Lockwood
> >> >> >> > Lead Client Developer
> >> >> >> > peoplePC, an EarthLink company
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>

>
>