windows sucks...

"Mike" <meatheadIV@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlzVJP5FIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>
> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>
> which were long path names;
>
> and now I want to move them to:
>
> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>
> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>
> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>
> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I don't
> want to shorten their paths and names...
>
> Anyway I can do it?
>
> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!

There are three ways:
- Put your information where it belongs: Into your files, not into
your folder/file names.
- Map a share that points into the middle of the excessively long path.
- Create a substituted drive letter that points into the middle of the
excessively long path.

FYI, Would like to note that in my experience...
While mapping some path to some drive letter will appear like a shortcut
on the outside; Windows will still use the full path on the inside, and
calculate the path length with this full name.

If your path is 50 characters long, and your filename is 210 long or
whatever combination thereof, Windows might let you save the file, but it
might also start to throw all sorts of errors at you.
Such as being unable to log off, unable to move/copy/paste/rename/delete
said file(s), 'Can not find' errors, etc.

I have seen these errors on user accounts in my organisation; Users would
just hit Enter when Microsoft Word 2003 suggested a filename, resulting
in..
Filenames which touched or even exceeded the full path length limit in
Windows 2000 Pro and Windows XP Pro.
As these user's home folders are redirected to a server with a shorter
path, I could see how logically it would be allowed to be saved.

The only resolution I have found for my situation was, to browse to the
offending file(s) from the fileserver itself, and rename the files from
there to a very short name under 20 characters, then all would be fine.
How a user would do this on a standalone machine, I can not imagine.






"Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in
news:O7O5Yt5FIHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

>
> "Mike" <meatheadIV@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OlzVJP5FIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>>
>> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>>
>> which were long path names;
>>
>> and now I want to move them to:
>>
>> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
>> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>>
>> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>>
>> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>>
>> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I
>> don't want to shorten their paths and names...
>>
>> Anyway I can do it?
>>
>> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!

>
> There are three ways:
> - Put your information where it belongs: Into your files, not into
> your folder/file names.
> - Map a share that points into the middle of the excessively long
> path. - Create a substituted drive letter that points into the middle
> of the
> excessively long path.
>
>

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*Reply to newsgroup please.
*Your mileage may vary.
*Spelling/Grammar errors free of charge.

Assume that you have a long path of the following form:

d:\aaaaaaaaa\bbbbbbbbb\ . .\mmmmmmmmmm\ . . \yyyyyyyyyyyyyy\zzzzzzzzzzz

Now assume that you set up a substitution like so:

subst Q: d:\d:\aaaaaaaaa\bbbbbbbbb\ . . . \mmmmmmmmmm

Windows will now be able to access files and folders on drive
Q: of a combined length of up to 260 characters. I recommend
you give it a try - it works very nicely. The same applies if you
create a share instead of a substituted drive letter.


"Ace" <ace_rules_bbs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns99D561EB015B5FearIsTheMindKiller@207.46.24 8.16...

> FYI, Would like to note that in my experience...
> While mapping some path to some drive letter will appear like a shortcut
> on the outside; Windows will still use the full path on the inside, and
> calculate the path length with this full name.
>
> If your path is 50 characters long, and your filename is 210 long or
> whatever combination thereof, Windows might let you save the file, but it
> might also start to throw all sorts of errors at you.
> Such as being unable to log off, unable to move/copy/paste/rename/delete
> said file(s), 'Can not find' errors, etc.
>
> I have seen these errors on user accounts in my organisation; Users would
> just hit Enter when Microsoft Word 2003 suggested a filename, resulting
> in..
> Filenames which touched or even exceeded the full path length limit in
> Windows 2000 Pro and Windows XP Pro.
> As these user's home folders are redirected to a server with a shorter
> path, I could see how logically it would be allowed to be saved.
>
> The only resolution I have found for my situation was, to browse to the
> offending file(s) from the fileserver itself, and rename the files from
> there to a very short name under 20 characters, then all would be fine.
> How a user would do this on a standalone machine, I can not imagine.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in
> news:O7O5Yt5FIHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>

>>
>> "Mike" <meatheadIV@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OlzVJP5FIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>>>
>>> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>>>
>>> which were long path names;
>>>
>>> and now I want to move them to:
>>>
>>> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
>>> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>>>
>>> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>>>
>>> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>>>
>>> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I
>>> don't want to shorten their paths and names...
>>>
>>> Anyway I can do it?
>>>
>>> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!

>>
>> There are three ways:
>> - Put your information where it belongs: Into your files, not into
>> your folder/file names.
>> - Map a share that points into the middle of the excessively long
>> path. - Create a substituted drive letter that points into the middle
>> of the
>> excessively long path.
>>
>>

>
>
>
> --
> *Reply to newsgroup please.
> *Your mileage may vary.
> *Spelling/Grammar errors free of charge.

Mike wrote:

> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>
> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>
> which were long path names;
>
> and now I want to move them to:
>
> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>
> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>
> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I
> don't want to shorten their paths and names...
>
> Anyway I can do it?
>
> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!

All these negative vibes, man...

Basic rule of physics: You can't get ten pounds of crap in a five pound bag.

Using a different bag (Mac, Unix, etc.) won't help either.

You've just got too much crap.

Good suggestion, I will try this when I have a chance.
The current setup in my organisation issues
"CMD /c NET USE U: \\server\users\department\firstname.lastname\my
documents /y" from a KiXstart script running at logon from Windows Server
2003.
Which quickly runs up to funny business when some application disregards
the 260 path length limit.






"Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in
news:uuH37f6FIHA.4808@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Assume that you have a long path of the following form:
>
> d:\aaaaaaaaa\bbbbbbbbb\ . .\mmmmmmmmmm\ . .
> \yyyyyyyyyyyyyy\zzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Now assume that you set up a substitution like so:
>
> subst Q: d:\d:\aaaaaaaaa\bbbbbbbbb\ . . . \mmmmmmmmmm
>
> Windows will now be able to access files and folders on drive
> Q: of a combined length of up to 260 characters. I recommend
> you give it a try - it works very nicely. The same applies if you
> create a share instead of a substituted drive letter.
>
>
> "Ace" <ace_rules_bbs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99D561EB015B5FearIsTheMindKiller@207.46.24 8.16...

>> FYI, Would like to note that in my experience...
>> While mapping some path to some drive letter will appear like a
>> shortcut on the outside; Windows will still use the full path on the
>> inside, and calculate the path length with this full name.
>>
>> If your path is 50 characters long, and your filename is 210 long or
>> whatever combination thereof, Windows might let you save the file,
>> but it might also start to throw all sorts of errors at you.
>> Such as being unable to log off, unable to
>> move/copy/paste/rename/delete said file(s), 'Can not find' errors,
>> etc.
>>
>> I have seen these errors on user accounts in my organisation; Users
>> would just hit Enter when Microsoft Word 2003 suggested a filename,
>> resulting in..
>> Filenames which touched or even exceeded the full path length limit
>> in Windows 2000 Pro and Windows XP Pro.
>> As these user's home folders are redirected to a server with a
>> shorter path, I could see how logically it would be allowed to be
>> saved.
>>
>> The only resolution I have found for my situation was, to browse to
>> the offending file(s) from the fileserver itself, and rename the
>> files from there to a very short name under 20 characters, then all
>> would be fine. How a user would do this on a standalone machine, I
>> can not imagine.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com> wrote in
>> news:O7O5Yt5FIHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>>

>>>
>>> "Mike" <meatheadIV@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OlzVJP5FIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>>>>
>>>> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>>>>
>>>> which were long path names;
>>>>
>>>> and now I want to move them to:
>>>>
>>>> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
>>>> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>>>>
>>>> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>>>>
>>>> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>>>>
>>>> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize...
>>>> I don't want to shorten their paths and names...
>>>>
>>>> Anyway I can do it?
>>>>
>>>> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!
>>>
>>> There are three ways:
>>> - Put your information where it belongs: Into your files, not into
>>> your folder/file names.
>>> - Map a share that points into the middle of the excessively long
>>> path. - Create a substituted drive letter that points into the
>>> middle of the
>>> excessively long path.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Reply to newsgroup please.
>> *Your mileage may vary.
>> *Spelling/Grammar errors free of charge.

>
>
>

--
*Reply to newsgroup please.
*Your mileage may vary.
*Spelling/Grammar errors free of charge.

Mike wrote:

> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>
> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>
> which were long path names;
>
> and now I want to move them to:
>
> c:\document and settings\Peter\My Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>
> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>
> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>
> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I don't
> want to shorten their paths and names...
>
> Anyway I can do it?
>
> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!
>
>

It wasn't so long ago that DOS had an 8-character limit for file names,
plus a 3-character extension.

Why not reorganize your files to a c:\MyOldFiles folder?

Bill

"Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:uStw4k$FIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Mike wrote:

>> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>>
>> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>>
>> which were long path names;
>>
>> and now I want to move them to:
>>
>> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
>> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>>
>> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>>
>> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>>
>> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I
>> don't want to shorten their paths and names...
>>
>> Anyway I can do it?
>>
>> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!

> It wasn't so long ago that DOS had an 8-character limit for file names,
> plus a 3-character extension.
>
> Why not reorganize your files to a c:\MyOldFiles folder?
>
> Bill

Didn't I say that I am trying to reorganizing my folder and files?

I do think when you organize folders, more levels of hierachy is a good
thing to do...

I assume you are trying to find a way to sort your data based on it's folder
or file name. There are other properties available to nonsystem files that
can do this in their properties, and this can be made just as visible as the
name.
For example, create a new folder, put two new text files in it. Rightclick
the folder, and then Properties, Summary tab, and "Comments" input box. Make
some description, and apply to each. Then open My Computer to that folders
parent, and rightclick the column title bar (name, size, modified, etc). Put
a check in Comments, OK, and sort by the comments with a double-click on the
title of that comments column. My point is that a much longer string of data
is available without being confronted by the 256 limit on filenames. (there
are other properties available to use, description, title, and host of
others.)

--
Mark L. Ferguson
e-mail subject line must include "QZ" or it's deleted
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"Mike" <meatheadIV@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:uiY9iIDGIHA.3360@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>
> "Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:uStw4k$FIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Mike wrote:

>>> for some reason, I have some files previously located at:
>>>
>>> c:\mydocs\mywork\myprograms\..........
>>>
>>> which were long path names;
>>>
>>> and now I want to move them to:
>>>
>>> c:\document and settings\Peter\My
>>> Works\mywork_10_2007\myprograms\..........
>>>
>>> And it didn't allow me to do it...
>>>
>>> It says there is a 260 character limit...
>>>
>>> But there are tens of thousands files that I want to reorganize... I
>>> don't want to shorten their paths and names...
>>>
>>> Anyway I can do it?
>>>
>>> Stupid windows, stupid 260 limit!!!

>> It wasn't so long ago that DOS had an 8-character limit for file names,
>> plus a 3-character extension.
>>
>> Why not reorganize your files to a c:\MyOldFiles folder?
>>
>> Bill

>
>
> Didn't I say that I am trying to reorganizing my folder and files?
>
> I do think when you organize folders, more levels of hierachy is a good
> thing to do...
>