Will,
Trust me, Vista's new WGA called SPP; I think; initiates an outbound at
every boot.
Not that it'll connect;if you're off-line; obviously.

Jeff

"Will" <imagine_44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12297BE6-B856-48A7-8806-8FD2588BDE8F@microsoft.com...

> If Vista reports back to MSFT on every boot, then wouldn't that cause
> problems if for example the pc is being used as an offline PC ?
>
> "Jeff" <S.Cerevesiae@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:O3QLL1g7GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> That's a ridiculous price actually;
>> One of the poster's earlier was correct; you can buy a pc for that price.
>>
>> Jeff
>> Not to mention, Vista reporting back to MSFT everytime you boot up; other
>> options are starting to look good.
>>
>> "Will" <imagine_44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:AD32CE47-D724-4127-9B95-0DBC612F24F3@microsoft.com...

>>> Not too sure about the upgrade cycle
>>> From my experience vista actually runs better and more stable on older
>>> PC's than xp does
>>> I had an old PC sitting around it was a pentium 3 866Mhz cpu 512Mb ram
>>> and a 128Mb video card I installed Vista on it and I wasn't expecting
>>> much at all
>>> But other than not having aero glass it ran very well and a lot smoother
>>> and stable than it did with XP on it
>>>
>>> But I guess to run it with all it's features fully working most people
>>> will have to consider an upgrade
>>>
>>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...
>>>> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
>>>> will
>>>> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>

>>

>

Jeff wrote:

> Will,
> Trust me, Vista's new WGA called SPP; I think; initiates an outbound at
> every boot.
> Not that it'll connect;if you're off-line; obviously.
>
> Jeff

Can it be blocked by a firewall?

Alias

>
> "Will" <imagine_44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:12297BE6-B856-48A7-8806-8FD2588BDE8F@microsoft.com...

>> If Vista reports back to MSFT on every boot, then wouldn't that cause
>> problems if for example the pc is being used as an offline PC ?
>>
>> "Jeff" <S.Cerevesiae@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:O3QLL1g7GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> That's a ridiculous price actually;
>>> One of the poster's earlier was correct; you can buy a pc for that
>>> price.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Not to mention, Vista reporting back to MSFT everytime you boot up;
>>> other options are starting to look good.
>>>
>>> "Will" <imagine_44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AD32CE47-D724-4127-9B95-0DBC612F24F3@microsoft.com...
>>>> Not too sure about the upgrade cycle
>>>> From my experience vista actually runs better and more stable on
>>>> older PC's than xp does
>>>> I had an old PC sitting around it was a pentium 3 866Mhz cpu 512Mb
>>>> ram and a 128Mb video card I installed Vista on it and I wasn't
>>>> expecting much at all
>>>> But other than not having aero glass it ran very well and a lot
>>>> smoother and stable than it did with XP on it
>>>>
>>>> But I guess to run it with all it's features fully working most
>>>> people will have to consider an upgrade
>>>>
>>>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install
>>>>> version will
>>>>> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>

As a home user I don't really see that much difference between Vista home
premium and Vista ultimate they both have Aero Glass and both have media
center
To me it's seems these are the main features home users will be attracted to
Yet there is a rather large price difference between the two

I mainly use the Pc for work and also entertainment

my work involves web design and graphic design and as for entertainment I
like recording Tv with media center I occassionally play some games and
listen to music

So correct me if I'm wrong but why would I pay around $100 more for ultimate
if Home premium does just about all the things vista ultimate can do?

It seems very strange that MSFT has such a large price difference between
the ultimate and home premium, when there isn't that much difference between
them

"Ed." <esmithoh(at)zoominternet.net> wrote in message
news:u6UsAXh7GHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Take a look here at pcworld.com
>
> http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/002709.html
>
>
> "Yoshi" <yoshi@home.com> wrote in message
> news:728BDB62-54A1-47D0-ADCE-7C8EF020E537@microsoft.com...

>> Personally, I believe Microsoft's retail pricing is forcing people to
>> just buy a new pc with Vista installed. I really believe a hardware
>> upgrade cycle is in the near future.
>>
>> I will probably end up buying a new pc next year. I can't wait!
>>
>>
>> "Jeff" <S.Cerevesiae@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:O3QLL1g7GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> That's a ridiculous price actually;
>>> One of the poster's earlier was correct; you can buy a pc for that
>>> price.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Not to mention, Vista reporting back to MSFT everytime you boot up;
>>> other options are starting to look good.
>>>
>>> "Will" <imagine_44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AD32CE47-D724-4127-9B95-0DBC612F24F3@microsoft.com...
>>>> Not too sure about the upgrade cycle
>>>> From my experience vista actually runs better and more stable on older
>>>> PC's than xp does
>>>> I had an old PC sitting around it was a pentium 3 866Mhz cpu 512Mb ram
>>>> and a 128Mb video card I installed Vista on it and I wasn't expecting
>>>> much at all
>>>> But other than not having aero glass it ran very well and a lot
>>>> smoother and stable than it did with XP on it
>>>>
>>>> But I guess to run it with all it's features fully working most people
>>>> will have to consider an upgrade
>>>>
>>>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
>>>>> will
>>>>> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

Home Premium comes in at £190!

Mike


"Will" wrote:

> thats a fairly big price tag
> I think I will be buying the home premium version it's got most things I
> want
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...

> > Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
> > will
> > be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
> >
> > Mike
> >

>
>

English pounds?
Youch, that's 352$ U.S.

Jeff

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:03060AC8-8FE7-4059-BB49-B32E22413CFA@microsoft.com...

> Home Premium comes in at £190!
>
> Mike
>
>
> "Will" wrote:
>

>> thats a fairly big price tag
>> I think I will be buying the home premium version it's got most things I
>> want
>>
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...

>> > Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
>> > will
>> > be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >

>>
>>

$605.18 USD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and another !!!!!!!!!!



"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...

> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
> will
> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>
> Mike
>

Re: "It seems very strange that MSFT has such a large price difference
between the ultimate and home premium, when there isn't that much
difference between them"

There is a lot of difference, but not necessarily differences that a
home user would need/want.

Home premium does not have Remote Control, or any form of domain
networking (only workgroup), as I understand it. There are also a lot
of security and backup facilities present in Business and Ultimate that
are not present in Home (basic or premium).


Will wrote:

> As a home user I don't really see that much difference between Vista
> home premium and Vista ultimate they both have Aero Glass and both have
> media center
> To me it's seems these are the main features home users will be
> attracted to
> Yet there is a rather large price difference between the two
>
> I mainly use the Pc for work and also entertainment
>
> my work involves web design and graphic design and as for entertainment
> I like recording Tv with media center I occassionally play some games
> and listen to music
>
> So correct me if I'm wrong but why would I pay around $100 more for
> ultimate if Home premium does just about all the things vista ultimate
> can do?
>
> It seems very strange that MSFT has such a large price difference
> between the ultimate and home premium, when there isn't that much
> difference between them
>
> "Ed." <esmithoh(at)zoominternet.net> wrote in message
> news:u6UsAXh7GHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>

>> Take a look here at pcworld.com
>>
>> http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/002709.html
>>
>>
>> "Yoshi" <yoshi@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:728BDB62-54A1-47D0-ADCE-7C8EF020E537@microsoft.com...
>>

>>> Personally, I believe Microsoft's retail pricing is forcing people to
>>> just buy a new pc with Vista installed. I really believe a hardware
>>> upgrade cycle is in the near future.
>>>
>>> I will probably end up buying a new pc next year. I can't wait!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff" <S.Cerevesiae@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O3QLL1g7GHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> That's a ridiculous price actually;
>>>> One of the poster's earlier was correct; you can buy a pc for that
>>>> price.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>> Not to mention, Vista reporting back to MSFT everytime you boot up;
>>>> other options are starting to look good.
>>>>
>>>> "Will" <imagine_44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:AD32CE47-D724-4127-9B95-0DBC612F24F3@microsoft.com...
>>>>
>>>>> Not too sure about the upgrade cycle
>>>>> From my experience vista actually runs better and more stable on
>>>>> older PC's than xp does
>>>>> I had an old PC sitting around it was a pentium 3 866Mhz cpu 512Mb
>>>>> ram and a 128Mb video card I installed Vista on it and I wasn't
>>>>> expecting much at all
>>>>> But other than not having aero glass it ran very well and a lot
>>>>> smoother and stable than it did with XP on it
>>>>>
>>>>> But I guess to run it with all it's features fully working most
>>>>> people will have to consider an upgrade
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install
>>>>>> version will
>>>>>> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>

Oops,
I stand corrected!
-weird; the currency gadget has 325 british pounds as$ 603.640 USD on my
pc-i'm not sure why. probably because of rate fluctuations.
Whatever; give or take a few bucks;
That IS outrageous.

Jeff

"LS (V)" <lawrence(NoSpam)systems@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:eNZSFEi7GHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> $605.18 USD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and another !!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...

>> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version
>> will
>> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>
>

Jeff wrote:

> Oops,
> I stand corrected!
> -weird; the currency gadget has 325 british pounds as$ 603.640 USD on
> my pc-i'm not sure why. probably because of rate fluctuations.
> Whatever; give or take a few bucks;
> That IS outrageous.
>
> Jeff

And yet another reason to stick with XP.

Alias

>
> "LS (V)" <lawrence(NoSpam)systems@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:eNZSFEi7GHA.5020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> $605.18 USD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and another !!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...

>>> Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install
>>> version will
>>> be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>

>>
>>

>

I know this is a stupid idea, but I am going to post it any way:

Why not wait until Vista is available for purchase,
see what the real you-gotta-pay-this price is,
then rant, rave, hoot, holler, yell, scream,
and be generally annoyed if you feel it is too much,
or can't afford it, or don't want it, or whatever
--
BChat

"Mike" <Mike@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:75C35278-BC6B-4B5E-8C07-596BEDE714C3@microsoft.com...
Just in case anyone is interested, Vista Ultimate full install version will
be priced at £325 in the UK with a release date of 2nd February 2007.

Mike